FBS move fans. Here's a good read

[MNLonghorn10]

everyone knows the bowl games are just an add on, and the real fun is during the regular season . I, admittedly, think a lot of these bowl games are meaningless and just a free trip for the players.



but the regular season is so much more intriguing if you have Fresno, CState, SDSU or whoever compared to UNI, USD, ISU-b and Missouri St.

To what point do you start thinking NDSU is just too good for FCS? Some of us are already there...but Yea Frisco is fun, but with the powers moving up...NDSU is going to be in the running every year. Itll get stale. NDSU will be like the NW MO state of FCS.

NDSU basically has to hope a neighboring FCS power(Montana) is on the schedule every year to save face.

[Bison 4 Life]

everyone knows the bowl games are just an add on, and the real fun is during the regular season . I, admittedly, think a lot of these bowl games are meaningless and just a free trip for the players.



but the regular season is so much more intriguing if you have Fresno, CState, SDSU or whoever compared to UNI, USD, ISU-b and Missouri St.

To what point do you start thinking NDSU is just too good for FCS? Some of us are already there...but Yea Frisco is fun, but with the powers moving up...NDSU is going to be in the running every year. Itll get stale. NDSU will be like the NW MO state of FCS.

NDSU basically has to hope a neighboring FCS power(Montana) is on the schedule every year to save face.

I went to 4 road games this year. That would not happen in the MWC

[thundarsdaddy]

I have largely stayed out of this FBS discussion. But after watching Fresno State, co-MWC champion, play in the Las Vegas Bowl and get pounded by USC, and now watching a shitty Poinsettia Bowl with Northern Illinois and the other MWC co-champion Utah State play lousy football in a lousy bowl I keep asking myself "why?". Of course, the spectacular Poinstettia Bowl followed the Little Ceasars Bowl with the MAC champion Bowling Green losing to an utterly and ridicuously bad Pitt. There was a sparse crowd in the Ceasars Bowl and an even smaller crowd in the Poinsettia Bowl, so obviously FBS fans are not flocking to these games.

So, tell me in all honesty what the attraction is for you all FBS proponents in having the Bison play in these shitty conferences with the sole goal of playing in these even shittier bowls. I'm serious. Tell me what attacts you to having the Bison play in conferences such as these. I truly want to know, because the whole logic and rationale thought process as to why this is where NDSU needs to be in the whole scheme of college football is escaping me. I don't understand you, so explain it to me.

Thanks.

I would answer your questions, but I am a lot like you, wondering why all the FBS-Fuss, especially at this point?
I am still totally lost, as to what will College Football, Divison 1, look like in ten years? IN just 5 years? No one can answer this, not yet anyway. BCS is moving to a 4 team playoff next year, but almost everyone says the same thing..."Thats not going to solve much at all?"
At some point there will have to be a 16-24 team tournament similar to FCS, but that seems light years away?
So, the question was, "Why all the fuss about moving up to FBS?" Seems like a fair question to me?
We should wait and see what literally happens at the FBS/BCS level, but maybe that will be waiting too long? Maybe we need to be in a conference ASAP? But which conference? Wyoming is not even in a BCS conference right now?
Too many questions with only limited speculation for answers.

[reformedUNDfan]

if NDSU reaches a point where it thinks it can contend on occasion, it should make the jump. I don't see that happening within the lifespan of the fargodome.

[BisonTeacher]

Their fan base sucks. Lived down their for 5 years, went to half a dozen games and never met more than a handful of die hard goopher fans. They seem content with being mediocre.

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Thats true...but I don't think minnesota is the only team having trouble selling tickets to a non bcs bowl. And this was one of Minn best seasons in a long time.

My point is the bowl system is a joke.

[1st&TennBison]

everyone knows the bowl games are just an add on, and the real fun is during the regular season . I, admittedly, think a lot of these bowl games are meaningless and just a free trip for the players.



but the regular season is so much more intriguing if you have Fresno, CState, SDSU or whoever compared to UNI, USD, ISU-b and Missouri St.

To what point do you start thinking NDSU is just too good for FCS? Some of us are already there...but Yea Frisco is fun, but with the powers moving up...NDSU is going to be in the running every year. Itll get stale. NDSU will be like the NW MO state of FCS.

NDSU basically has to hope a neighboring FCS power(Montana) is on the schedule every year to save face.

Most people think this class of seniors is the best ever, so why base thinking that NDSU is to good for the fcs on what this class has been doing for the last 4 years. The people who think we need to move now would be wise to want to wait to see how we do for a few more years to see if we can sustain the success with a different class, and a new coach, then see where the fan base is and if we are still selling out the dome when the team is not winning championships.

[1st&TennBison]

Thats true...but I don't think minnesota is the only team having trouble selling tickets to a non bcs bowl. And this was one of Minn best seasons in a long time.

My point is the bowl system is a joke.

If I am not mistaken, MN is now selling tickets for a dollar, yes folks I do mean $1. That is how bad their ticket sales are, heck even Ohio St is on the hook for 10,000 unsold tickets from their allotment that they can't seem to sell. And we have people who want to jump up to the FBS so that we can encounter this problem why???? The problem with lower level bowl games is this, no one can get excited about a bowl game against a mediocre team when win or lose, there is no life after the game is over, the team isn't going any further than that game. At least in the fcs playoffs the excitement of that game is that if you win, you have a shot at a Natty.

[1998braves64]

Well have a women's sports added or men's sports cut so they match. That was part of the reason why UNO cut their football team when they moved up to D-1, easier to get rid of the team than trying to add the scholarships or teams in women's sports.

Can't do, we're already at the minimum allowed for DI sports offered. Only option is to add women's sports/scholarships to offset the extra scholarships going to football in FBS. Bowling? Does the union still have an alley in the basement?

[Hammerhead]

Attendance was bad at the Little Caesar's Bowl featuring teams from schools that are 83 and 288 miles away. Both are easy driving distance for most people.

Thats true...but I don't think minnesota is the only team having trouble selling tickets to a non bcs bowl. And this was one of Minn best seasons in a long time.

My point is the bowl system is a joke.

[BisonTeacher]

If I am not mistaken, MN is now selling tickets for a dollar, yes folks I do mean $1. That is how bad their ticket sales are, heck even Ohio St is on the hook for 10,000 unsold tickets from their allotment that they can't seem to sell. And we have people who want to jump up to the FBS so that we can encounter this problem why???? The problem with lower level bowl games is this, no one can get excited about a bowl game against a mediocre team when win or lose, there is no life after the game is over, the team isn't going any further than that game. At least in the fcs playoffs the excitement of that game is that if you win, you have a shot at a Natty.

to add to what you are saying....I believe the big ten has a fund to cover the cost of the seats if one of their teams does not sell their allotment. So they drop the prices trying to entice people to go knowing they will be backed up by the conference bowl fund.