Page 64 of 161 FirstFirst ... 1454626364656674114 ... LastLast
Results 631 to 640 of 1606

Thread: Sagarin says

  1. #631
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Location
    St. Paul
    Posts
    20,060

    Default Re: Sagarin says

    MAC 59.83 (-0.18 from last week)
    CUSA 59.91 (=0.00)
    Sn Blt 58.45 (-0.24)
    MVFC 57.40 (=0.00)
    I have the honor to be Your Obedient Servant - B.Aud

    We all live in stories... It seems to me that a definition of any living vibrant society is that you constantly question those stories... The argument itself is freedom. It's not that you come to a conclusion about it. Through that argument you change your mind sometimes... That's how societies grow. When you can't retell for yourself the stories of your life then you live in a prison... Somebody else controls the story. - S. Rushdie

  2. #632
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Location
    St. Paul
    Posts
    20,060

    Default Re: Sagarin says

    NDSU's 77.68 would rank:

    3rd in the American Athletic (=0 from last week)
    6th in the ACC (=0)
    5th in the Big Ten (+3)
    7th in the Big 12 (+1)
    1st in Conference USA (=0)
    1st in the MAC (=0)
    3rd in the MWC (=0)
    10th in the PAC 12 (=0)
    10th in the SEC (=0)
    1st in the Sun Belt (=0)
    I have the honor to be Your Obedient Servant - B.Aud

    We all live in stories... It seems to me that a definition of any living vibrant society is that you constantly question those stories... The argument itself is freedom. It's not that you come to a conclusion about it. Through that argument you change your mind sometimes... That's how societies grow. When you can't retell for yourself the stories of your life then you live in a prison... Somebody else controls the story. - S. Rushdie

  3. #633
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Location
    Seattle & Minneapolis
    Posts
    1,364

    Default Re: Sagarin says

    Sagarin's numbers were calculated early this week. NDSU jumps up a small margin from 77.68 to 77.8 (#38) even in a bye week. I suspect this is mostly due to Kansas State moving up to the top 30 with their convincing win over Iowa State.

    If anyone is interested, I have started an informal analysis comparing Sagarin Predictor scores against the actual results from all DI games. I posted my initial results here: http://www.anygivensaturday.com/show...l-scores/page4 Highlights are below as well.

    Out of 106 games between DI opponents:
    --> Average difference between Sagarin's predicted spread and the actual spread is only 1.3 points, with a standard deviation of 15 points.
    --> (44.3%) 47 games - Sagarin correctly predicted the winner
    --> (7.5%) 8 games were within 2 points of Sagarin's predictions in either direction
    --> (15.1%) 16 games were between 2 & 5 points off Sagarin's predictions
    --> (24.5%) 26 games were between 5 & 10 points off Sagarin's predictions
    --> (23.6%) 25 games were between 10 & 15 points off Sagarin's predictions
    --> (29.2%) 31 games were greater than 15 points off Sagarin's predictions

  4. #634
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Location
    St. Paul
    Posts
    20,060

    Default Re: Sagarin says

    Quote Originally Posted by thebootfitter View Post
    Sagarin's numbers were calculated early this week. NDSU jumps up a small margin from 77.68 to 77.8 (#38) even in a bye week. I suspect this is mostly due to Kansas State moving up to the top 30 with their convincing win over Iowa State.

    If anyone is interested, I have started an informal analysis comparing Sagarin Predictor scores against the actual results from all DI games. I posted my initial results here: http://www.anygivensaturday.com/show...l-scores/page4 Highlights are below as well.

    Out of 106 games between DI opponents:
    --> Average difference between Sagarin's predicted spread and the actual spread is only 1.3 points, with a standard deviation of 15 points.
    --> (44.3%) 47 games - Sagarin correctly predicted the winner
    --> (7.5%) 8 games were within 2 points of Sagarin's predictions in either direction
    --> (15.1%) 16 games were between 2 & 5 points off Sagarin's predictions
    --> (24.5%) 26 games were between 5 & 10 points off Sagarin's predictions
    --> (23.6%) 25 games were between 10 & 15 points off Sagarin's predictions
    --> (29.2%) 31 games were greater than 15 points off Sagarin's predictions
    The standard deviation makes a lot of sense. The historic standard deviation for Sagarin's NFL predictor is just under 14.
    I have the honor to be Your Obedient Servant - B.Aud

    We all live in stories... It seems to me that a definition of any living vibrant society is that you constantly question those stories... The argument itself is freedom. It's not that you come to a conclusion about it. Through that argument you change your mind sometimes... That's how societies grow. When you can't retell for yourself the stories of your life then you live in a prison... Somebody else controls the story. - S. Rushdie

  5. #635
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Location
    Seattle & Minneapolis
    Posts
    1,364

    Default Re: Sagarin says

    Quote Originally Posted by bisonaudit View Post
    The standard deviation makes a lot of sense. The historic standard deviation for Sagarin's NFL predictor is just under 14.
    Intuitively, I would think that the NFL teams have to be better connected, since there are fewer teams and many of them play twice in a season. I guess the "any given Saturday/Sunday" factor is pretty significant, eh?

  6. #636
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Location
    Wahpeton
    Posts
    14,231

    Default Re: Sagarin says

    Some shakeups in the FCS top-25. KState cracks the overall top-30 so we get a little boost. UNI continues their slow fall. Their rating is too high for where they are as a team right now, but that's to be expected in a computer model that looks at the entire season for data.


    Sagarin's Week 11 Predictions
    Code:
    			       Sagarin	  Predict    Result	 Diff  
     38	North Dakota State	77.80					
     27	Kansas State		82.05	   -7.84       3.00	 10.84		
     NA	Ferris State		   NA	      NA      46.00	    NA		
    229	Delaware State		33.18	   48.21      51.00	  2.79		
    120	South Dakota State	58.81	   15.40      20.00	  4.60		
     90	Northern Iowa		63.69	   17.70       1.00	-16.70		
    110	Missouri State		59.72	   21.67      15.00	 -6.67		
    107	Southern Illinois	60.61	   13.60      21.00	  7.40		
    192	Indiana State		43.67	   30.54      46.00	 15.46		
    140	Illinois State		55.56	   25.83				
     96	Youngstown State	62.46	   11.75				
    161	South Dakota		50.62	   30.77				
    							
    166	Western Illinois	48.98					
    						Total Diff:	 17.72
    	Home			 3.59
    Sagarin FCS Predictor Top-25
    Code:
     1   38  North Dakota State
     2   61  Eastern Illinois
     3   81  Montana
     4   82  Eastern Washington
     5   84  Towson
     6   87  SE Louisiana
     7   88  William & Mary
     8   89  Villanova
     9   90  Northern Iowa
    10   96  Youngstown State
    11   97  Montana State
    12  105  Maine
    13  107  Southern Illinois
    14  108  McNeese State
    15  109  Sam Houston State
    16  110  Missouri State
    17  113  Samford
    18  114  Old Dominion
    19  115  Eastern Kentucky
    20  116  Coastal Carolina
    21  119  Chattanooga
    22  120  South Dakota State
    23  122  Cal Poly
    24  123  Bethune-Cookman
    25  127  New Hampshire
    Sagarin Predictor Top-6 FCS Conferences
    Code:
    1.  MVFC	58.11
    2.  Colonial	55.79
    3.  Big Sky	51.75
    4.  Southland	51.51
    5.  Ohio Valley 50.86
    6.  Southern	50.55

  7. #637
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Location
    St. Paul
    Posts
    20,060

    Default Re: Sagarin says

    Based on Sagarin's numbers (3.59 home field) and a 2.61 pt kicker for coming off a bye week, here's the outlook for the remainder of the regular season:


    Ill St 98.2% (-0.7 percentage points from last week)
    YSU 80.8% (+1.5)
    USD 98.8% (-0.2)



    11-0 77.6% (+0.7)
    10-1 22.0% (-0.9)
    9-2 0.4% (+0.2)
    8-3 0.004%



    Assumes a normal distribution of outcomes w/ Sagarin's projected spread as the mean and a standard deviation of 13.86. In round numbers this means that if the spread is 14 the model predicts that roughly 2/3 of the outcomes will be between a tie and a 28 point victory. Half of the remaining outcomes or about 1/6 of all the outcomes would be a victory by more than 28 and there would be roughly a 1 in 6 chance that the team favored by 14 would lose.

    Playoffs:

    Sagarin gives NDSU a 57.2% chance of winning the SportsNetwork bracket.
    Most likely opponents by round (assuming NDSU advances):
    Montana 91.7% (San Diego 8.3%)
    #8 Towson 76.1% (SE Louisiana 15.4%)
    #4 Maine 44.8% (#5 Sam Houston St. 30.4%)
    #2 Eastern Illinois 61.8% (#3 E. Washington 25.2%)
    I have the honor to be Your Obedient Servant - B.Aud

    We all live in stories... It seems to me that a definition of any living vibrant society is that you constantly question those stories... The argument itself is freedom. It's not that you come to a conclusion about it. Through that argument you change your mind sometimes... That's how societies grow. When you can't retell for yourself the stories of your life then you live in a prison... Somebody else controls the story. - S. Rushdie

  8. #638
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Location
    St. Paul
    Posts
    20,060

    Default Re: Sagarin says

    CUSA 60.11 (+0.12 from last week)
    MAC 59.82 (=0.00)
    Sn Blt 58.20 (-0.20)
    MVFC 58.11 (+0.71)
    I have the honor to be Your Obedient Servant - B.Aud

    We all live in stories... It seems to me that a definition of any living vibrant society is that you constantly question those stories... The argument itself is freedom. It's not that you come to a conclusion about it. Through that argument you change your mind sometimes... That's how societies grow. When you can't retell for yourself the stories of your life then you live in a prison... Somebody else controls the story. - S. Rushdie

  9. #639
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Location
    St. Paul
    Posts
    20,060

    Default Re: Sagarin says

    NDSU's 77.8 would rank:

    3rd in the American Athletic (=0 from last week)
    5th in the ACC (+1)
    4th in the Big Ten (+1)
    7th in the Big 12 (=0)
    1st in Conference USA (=0)
    1st in the MAC (=0)
    3rd in the MWC (=0)
    10th in the PAC 12 (=0)
    10th in the SEC (=0)
    1st in the Sun Belt (=0)
    I have the honor to be Your Obedient Servant - B.Aud

    We all live in stories... It seems to me that a definition of any living vibrant society is that you constantly question those stories... The argument itself is freedom. It's not that you come to a conclusion about it. Through that argument you change your mind sometimes... That's how societies grow. When you can't retell for yourself the stories of your life then you live in a prison... Somebody else controls the story. - S. Rushdie

  10. #640
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Location
    SC ND
    Posts
    3,762

    Default Re: Sagarin says

    Still ranked ahead of the Gophers.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •