Sagarin says

[westriver bison]

Wow, honestly, those are shocking swings, yet completely make sense. NDSU has two huge dog fights on the road coming.....dang it, I thought UNI and SDSU were going to be the tough games!!!!

NDSU's rating decreased 1.86 while
YSU's rating increased 2.45 and
S Ill's rating increased 3.53.[/QUOTE]

It's amazing how the teams we have already played have worse records that the teams we have left to play. Anyone know why?

[CAS4127]

NDSU's rating decreased 1.86 while
YSU's rating increased 2.45 and
S Ill's rating increased 3.53.

It's amazing how the teams we have already played have worse records that the teams we have left to play. Anyone know why?[/QUOTE]

Cuz they haven't played us yet?!?!?!?

[CaBisonFan]

NDSU's rating decreased 1.86 while
YSU's rating increased 2.45 and
S Ill's rating increased 3.53.

It's amazing how the teams we have already played have worse records that the teams we have left to play. Anyone know why?[/QUOTE]

I'm gonna have to think about this one for a while. I'll get back to you.

[bisonaudit]

It's amazing how the teams we have already played have worse records that the teams we have left to play. Anyone know why?

Not counting their losses to us the teams we've played to date are 17-15. Our remaining opponents are 16-16.

[Mayville Bison]

Not counting their losses to us the teams we've played to date are 17-15. Our remaining opponents are 16-16.

Would you stop bringing logic into these conversations!

[Hammerhead]

Would you stop bringing logic into these conversations!

[gumby013]

Week 8 of my rankings. Bison remain at the top, but Fordham is close behind.

http://purecfr.com/college-football-...s-2013-week-8/

[Hammersmith]

Well, audit was right about today being interesting. Looks like Sag decided to add a fourth set of numbers to his ratings. Not only that, but it screwed up his formatting with word wrap. I'm going to go ahead and continue to use predictor for now. Results should be up in about 30min. BTW, I think according to the numbers sent to the BCS, the Bison are ranked 12th in the nation(that version of Sag only looks at W/L). However, I strongly suspect part of the deal he has with the BCS is to only pass along FBS schools in his top-25.

[bisonaudit]

Well, audit was right about today being interesting. Looks like Sag decided to add a fourth set of numbers to his ratings. Not only that, but it screwed up his formatting with word wrap. I'm going to go ahead and continue to use predictor for now. Results should be up in about 30min. BTW, I think according to the numbers sent to the BCS, the Bison are ranked 12th in the nation(that version of Sag only looks at W/L). However, I strongly suspect part of the deal he has with the BCS is to only pass along FBS schools in his top-25.

Whaaaaaaa....

[Hammersmith]

Whaaaaaaa....

Is the Whaaaaaa.... because you don't know why I'm referencing you(you said something last night in a different thread about wondering what Sag would look like this morning due to some of the weird wins and losses yesterday), or because the fourth set of numbers came out of nowhere?

From his description at the top of the page:

Pure Elo - only winning and losing matters; the score margin is of no consequence, which makes it very good at retro-fitting the W-L results. The PURE_ELO will be used by the BCS. However it is less accurate in its predictions for upcoming games than is the...
Pure Points(Predictor) - score margin is the only thing that matters and it is a very good predictor of future games
Elo Score - applies Elo principles to the actual scores of the games and so it is now score based and thus should be a good match for the PURE POINTS in terms of predictive accuracy for upcoming games
Rating - a synthesis of the two somewhat different score based methods, ELO_SCORE and PURE POINTS, and thus should be a good predictor in its own right

Looking at his descriptions and remembering from last week, I think Sag hasn't been giving us Pure Elo until now. It's probably being added at this point because he had to submit it today to the BCS. Elo Score must have been new starting this year. (or was this version here last year and I just blanked it out?)