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    Quote Originally Posted by Hammersmith View Post
    A very simplistic explanation is to look how a team performs compared to how they were expected to perform. Our rating and UNI's predicted about a 9 point NDSU win. Since we only won by 1 point, we weren't going to improve our ranking; maybe slip a tiny bit. On the other hand, I doubt KState was predicted to only lose by 4 points(I didn't look at last week's rankings to that degree, so I can't be certain). Since KState outperformed the expectation, they were likely to move up. Also realize that 77.69 and 77.27 are very, very close, and it doesn't take much to shift a team a spot or four.

    The complete explanation is a whole lot more complicated and would require knowledge of the particulars of Sagarin's computer model. I don't have that knowledge or the understanding to comprehend it if I did. Sorry.
    I guess after years of watching football I prefer my gut hunch over point spread but that isn't scientific and definitely can't be systemized. I guess that is one of the great things about football. There are so many variables in a given game from play books, to matchups, to injuries, to weather, to training, to the luck of the bounce. Best sport in the world.

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    Default Re: Sagarin says

    sagarin is still several week from being well connected, it usually isn't until the first BCS standings are announced

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    The Massey Ratings has us at #24 in the nation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZHerd View Post
    I guess after years of watching football I prefer my gut hunch over point spread but that isn't scientific and definitely can't be systemized. I guess that is one of the great things about football. There are so many variables in a given game from play books, to matchups, to injuries, to weather, to training, to the luck of the bounce. Best sport in the world.
    Sounds like a recipe for financial freedom. Go for it!

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    Based on Sagarin's numbers (4.28 home field) and a 2.61 pt kicker for coming off a bye week, here's the outlook for the remainder of the regular season:

    Mo St 98.1% (+1.0 percentage points from last week)
    S Ill 82.2% (+0.2)
    Ind St 93.9% (+1.0)
    Ill St 99.6% (-0.1)
    YSU 80.3% (-1.9)
    USD 99.4% (=0.0)



    11-0 60.1% (+16.6)
    10-1 33.5% (-6.8)
    9-2 6.0% (-7.2)
    8-3 0.4% (-1.5)
    7-4 0.01% (-0.1)
    6-5 0.0001%
    5-6 0.0000001%


    Assumes a normal distribution of outcomes w/ Sagarin's projected spread as the mean and a standard deviation of 13.86. In round numbers this means that if the spread is 14 the model predicts that roughly 2/3 of the outcomes will be between a tie and a 28 point victory. Half of the remaining outcomes or about 1/6 of all the outcomes would be a victory by more than 28 and there would be roughly a 1 in 6 chance that the team favored by 14 would lose.
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    CUSA 59.96 (-0.49 from last week)
    MAC 59.88 (+0.09)
    Sn Blt 58.91 (-0.21)
    MVFC 56.76 (-0.40)
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    NDSU's 77.27 would rank:

    3rd in the American Athletic (=0 from last week)
    6th in the ACC (+1)
    7th in the Big Ten (-1)
    7th in the Big 12 (-1)
    1st in Conference USA (=0)
    1st in the MAC (=0)
    3rd in the MWC (=0)
    9th in the PAC 12 (=0)
    9th in the SEC (+1)
    1st in the Sun Belt (=0)
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    Default Re: Sagarin says

    Quote Originally Posted by mnriverbison View Post
    Sounds like a recipe for financial freedom. Go for it!
    Right because football has so incredibly much in common with my finances

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZHerd View Post
    Right because football has so incredibly much in common with my finances

    Yeah, no one ever bets on football...

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    Quote Originally Posted by gotts View Post

    Yeah, no one ever bets on football...
    Oops right...and I thought my hair was brown

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