I think the top of the FCS is as good as it used to be but that group that used to be from about #5 or #6 onwards is a lot worse. Go back and look at some of the old "Sagarin Says" threads on here and you'll see the overall ranks of the top teams is pretty similar to where NDSU, SDSU, and Montana St are today but once you get to #10 in the FCS or so they used to still be in around #100 overall and now they're down to into the 120s and down further from there.
Here's the table from a
Hammersmith post back on December 15th, 2013 showing the overall rankings for the top 25 FCS teams per Sagarin:
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1 24 North Dakota State
2 37 Eastern Illinois
3 66 Towson
4 74 Villanova
5 76 SE Louisiana
6 77 Eastern Washington
7 79 New Hampshire
8 85 William & Mary
9 87 Northern Iowa
10 91 Jacksonville State
11 93 South Dakota State
12 98 Southern Illinois
13 99 Montana
14 101 Missouri State
15 102 Sam Houston State
16 104 Coastal Carolina
17 110 Harvard
18 112 Princeton
19 114 Liberty
20 116 Youngstown State
21 118 Maine
22 119 Cal Poly
23 122 Tennessee State
24 123 Illinois State
25 124 McNeese State
Compare that to what
Hammerhead just posted earlier this morning:
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38 North Dakota State AA 76.42 MISSOURI VALLEY
48 South Dakota State AA 74.55 MISSOURI VALLEY
73 Montana State AA 69.39 BIG SKY
80 Tarleton State AA 68.01 WESTERN ATHLETIC
81 Montana AA 66.23 BIG SKY
91 North Dakota AA 63.95 MISSOURI VALLEY
106 Southern Illinois AA 61.90 MISSOURI VALLEY
110 Harvard AA 60.71 IVY LEAGUE
114 UC Davis AA 60.16 BIG SKY
115 Austin Peay AA 59.80 WESTERN ATHLETIC
121 Idaho AA 58.94 BIG SKY
123 Northern Arizona AA 58.36 BIG SKY
124 Mercer AA 58.32 SOUTHERN
127 Tennessee Tech AA 58.05 BIG SOUTH/OVC
130 Youngstown State AA 57.76 MISSOURI VALLEY
133 Incarnate Word AA 57.23 SOUTHLAND
136 Yale AA 56.80 IVY LEAGUE
138 West Georgia AA 56.51 WESTERN ATHLETIC
140 SE Louisiana AA 56.14 SOUTHLAND
141 Illinois State AA 56.10 MEAC
143 Sacramento State AA 55.97 BIG SKY
144 South Dakota AA 55.82 MISSOURI VALLEY
145 Stephen F. Austin AA 55.59 SOUTHLAND
146 Monmouth-NJ AA 55.28 COASTAL
147 Dartmouth AA 55.12 IVY LEAGUE
#16 in the FCS Coastal Carolina back in 2013 would be #7 in the FCS these days. Only 13 of the top 25 FCS teams today would've been ranked high enough to be top 25 FCS teams in 2013 per Sagarin.
Re: 2025 Sagarin Says
Originally Posted by Professor Chaos
I think the top of the FCS is as good as it used to be but that group that used to be from about #5 or #6 onwards is a lot worse. Go back and look at some of the old "Sagarin Says" threads on here and you'll see the overall ranks of the top teams is pretty similar to where NDSU, SDSU, and Montana St are today but once you get to #10 in the FCS or so they used to still be in around #100 overall and now they're down to into the 120s and down further from there.
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