2025 Sagarin Says

Im honestly surprised we didnt fall out of the top 100 after only beating the 6th rated team by nearly 3 Tds

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Originally Posted by abc123

Sagarin doesn't really care about wins and losses at least in the more popular versions of its model.

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Yeah, that's true, but I'm not a computer model.

That's not to say that UND hasn't looked really good; it's just that I remember NCC teams getting a big boost from playing NDSU close in the regular season to the point that teams would lose to NDSU and still move up in the polls. And then getting knocked out of the playoffs in round 1.

Sagarin has the MFVC rated above the MAC and CUSA. :) http://sagarin.com/sports/cfsend.htm

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Originally Posted by bisonaudit

Also, a lot of good FCS programs have gone up and added scholarships. So that is talent disappearing from FCS.

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Yes this 10000x

Sagarin FCS Top 10 after 10/11/2025

38 NDSU, up 6
53 SDSU, unchanged
60 Montana State, up 6
83 Tarleton State, down 2
84 UND, up 4
93 Montana, down 2
98 Harvard, down 1
105 UC Davis, up 9
113 Delaware, down 2
114 Southern Illinois, down 11

Massey also quit sniffing glue and has NDSU at #1 in the FCS when SDSU had been there the entire season to this point I think.

https://masseyratings.com/cf/fcs/ratings

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Originally Posted by SoCalBison

Sagarin FCS Top 10 after 10/11/2025

38 NDSU, up 6
53 SDSU, unchanged
60 Montana State, up 6
83 Tarleton State, down 2
84 UND, up 4
93 Montana, down 2
98 Harvard, down 1
105 UC Davis, up 9
113 Delaware, down 2
114 Southern Illinois, down 11

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Right now, Sagarin has SDSU as about 0.5 point favorite at home.

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Originally Posted by THEsocalledfan

Right now, Sagarin has SDSU as about 0.5 point favorite at home.

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Isn’t it 3 points for home field? Which would make us 1pt favorites?

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Originally Posted by BiZon22

Isn’t it 3 points for home field? Which would make us 1pt favorites?

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It right there on the page and changes based on the data. It's at 4.63 right now.

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Originally Posted by THEsocalledfan

It right there on the page and changes based on the data. It's at 4.63 right now.

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Where do you see this?

The only games I see listed out are for this coming week, not for 2 weeks.

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EFAVORITE ESPREAD EODDS EPCT% EUNDERDOG
89 South Dakota State 40.83 2907 97% @ Murray State
FAVORITE Rating Pred Golden Recent Strong UNDERDOG MONEY WIN% home away TOTAL
89 South Dakota State 31.42 31.27 36.98 33.26 36.26 @ Murray State 1750 95% 12.26 49.18 61.43
EFAVORITE ESPREAD EODDS EPCT% EUNDERDOG
80 North Dakota State 29.60 1515 94% @ Indiana State
FAVORITE Rating Pred Golden Recent Strong UNDERDOG MONEY WIN% home away TOTAL
80 North Dakota State 28.70 29.04 27.13 36.85 45.19 @ Indiana State 1442 94% 15.82 52.47 68.29

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