2010 Recruiting

You know what Oldbison? You are getting OLD. I see you are going after Coach Bohl AGAIN on areavoices. WE GET IT. I don't understand how many different times you could say the same thing....you have mapped out how you think he is the worst coach in America and can't recruit.

Is there anything fresh you would like to add to the board? Anything?

Some people, like myself are very positive. I am holding to it that we have a fantastic group of freshman/redshirt freshman. I know you will say "time will tell" and I agree with that.

It just gets old seeing you pretend to be a diehard oldschool Bison fan but continually rip on the lack of talent and a poor coaching staff.

Send me a PM again if you want to discuss in private. I would be happy to discuss some of the reasons that I think we are struggling....professionally. (Staff continually changing/defections).

I've been paying close attention to football recruiting these past couple years, as my son's going through the process, and I haven't heard of any other FCS teams having so many verbal commitments as NDSU has right now.

This tells me that the coaches are working hard and getting young men to believe in their program earlier than other staff. I think coaching staff continuity is a big key in winning consistently.

By the way, I agree with Mr. Burgandy.

Losing coaches every year has got to be rough on recruiting. I think we had an excellent class last year, but most would agree that on signing day we were short in two main areas: LB and CB and some would say OL should have had another guy or two. How hard would it be to say, "come to NDSU, we don't know who your defensive coordinator or position coach will be, but trust me....he'll be a good one." We need consistency to not have recruiting holes. It was a big deal to get two CB's over the summer.

Eric Oertel, one of NDSU's offers at LB, gave Washington State a verbal.

CDH vs Woodbury right now on FSN .

#54 shea walker getting looks from NDSU, and the guy next to him BIG 77 is Sentrel Henderson (best Oline recruit in america!)

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Originally Posted by AEBison1998

Losing coaches every year has got to be rough on recruiting. I think we had an excellent class last year, but most would agree that on signing day we were short in two main areas: LB and CB and some would say OL should have had another guy or two. How hard would it be to say, "come to NDSU, we don't know who your defensive coordinator or position coach will be, but trust me....he'll be a good one." We need consistency to not have recruiting holes. It was a big deal to get two CB's over the summer.

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I personally think that we did ok for DB's...I do believe that we got a pretty damn good CB in Pierre, the kid has been getting better and better as the year has gone on, just what you want to see from a true freshman pushed into starting lineup. Gatlin from NDSCS has been injured for a good chunk of the season so we haven't been able to see what he can do. Ollman, playing and not getting redshirted, although playing almost only on special teams, but it says alot about his athletic ability to play as a true freshman. And don't forget about Marcus Williams, even though he hasen't stepped on the field yet, his size and athletic ability will be a welcome sight at CB.

LB is a MUST in this year...the coaches need to go out and wave the LB's depth chart in front of a few LB's who are considering something along the line of a MAC or another lower level FBS school, come here and compete for a starting job right away. Need to get a good group of OL this year, and a solid group of DT's.

I agree that Pierre and Williams were both nice additions. But both of them came on board in the summer after signing day. Good work by the coaches once they came on board. They filled a hole. (I know Williams was talked to before, but he still had to commit...and he did.)

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Originally Posted by HHS

I've been paying close attention to football recruiting these past couple years, as my son's going through the process, and I haven't heard of any other FCS teams having so many verbal commitments at NDSU has right now.

This tells me that the coaches are working hard and getting young men to believe in their program earlier than other staff. I think coaching staff continuity is a big key in winning consistently.

By the way, I agree with Mr. Burgandy.

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Go to rivals.com. Last years national champs, Richmond, has 14 already.

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Originally Posted by rutlandbison

Go to rivals.com. Last years national champs, Richmond, has 14 already.

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How bout direct comparators, Ill. State. S. Dakota, UNI, etc. No. Ill., an FBS, only has two so far.

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Originally Posted by HHS

How bout direct comparators, Ill. State. S. Dakota, UNI, etc. No. Ill., an FBS, only has two so far.

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I'm just saying we arent the only ones with early verbals.

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Originally Posted by rutlandbison

I'm just saying we arent the only ones with early verbals.

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Yep, I know. I was just wondering if you knew about the other schools. I never researched schools like you suggested. I did a quick search after I last posted and didn't see anyone else real close.

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Originally Posted by HHS

Yep, I know. I was just wondering if you knew about the other schools. I never researched schools like you suggested. I did a quick search after I last posted and didn't see anyone else real close.

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Yeah, I noticed that too. I guess it's really up to how the coach wants to approach things. If they want to get a bunch of verbals and hopefully kids explode and we can hang to them or if they know the kid is solid but not going to get looks from FBS schools.

This is interesting. Gebhart is ranked 8th in the Region by Rivals.com
2010 Rank Pos Ht/Wt Schools
1 Matt Miller
Helena (MT) Helena Capital ATH 6-4/205 list
2 Kyle Sosnowski
Boise (ID) Capital DB 6-3/203 Boise State
3 Taylor Kelly
Eagle (ID) Eagle QB 6-3/185 Nevada
4 Drew Martinez
Green River (WY) Green River WR 6-1/165 Wyoming
5 Justin Podrabsky
Lewiston (ID) Lewiston QB 6-6/220 Idaho
6 Spencer Beale
Lewiston (ID) Lewiston OL 6-5/300 Idaho
7 Tom Farniok
Sioux Falls (SD) Washington OL 6-3/260 Iowa State
8 Trevor Gebhart
Sioux Falls (SD) Washington WR 6-2/180 North Dakota State
9 Steven Turpin
Gillette (WY) Campbell County LB 6-5/193 list
10 Taylor Dees
Billings (MT) Huntley Project DE 6-3/225 list

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Originally Posted by Siouxfallsbison

8 Trevor Gebhart
Sioux Falls (SD) Washington WR 6-2/180 North Dakota State

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Gotta like his speed. NDSU's football team will be able to put together some DI-caliber relay squads, that's for sure.

Harvard got a commit from a 4 star tight end this week who had originally commited to stanford. What I want to know is, what do you guys think the posibility of us getting a big time recruit like this is. Every guy who takes a visit here has said our facilities are as good as any and they all like the Fargo area. Is that enough to get a big recruit here?
http://oklahomastate.rivals.com/commitlist.asp

Hmm...If someone was a big recruit and was coming to NDSU mainly because of football...I think it would take some strange connection to NDSU, either for a specific academic program or some overwhelming family connection. Otherwise I don't see it if they have other big offers. NDSU is a great school for the area, and has the old football tradition, but NDSU is not as attractive a place to go and play (for most kids) as would be a good Pac10 team, etc. 18,000 people in a dark dome isn't as impressive as most high level FBS programs in my opinion.

Stanford is on the way up, up, up, but Harvard is harvard. Sounds like the kid has more on his mind than 'football first.' If I got a scholarship to go there I'd go there too.

Isn't the star system based a lot on who offers? I wouldn't be surprised to see that four-star TE drop to a three star. That's usually the case - when a guy verbals to an FCS they lose a star (sometimes two).

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Originally Posted by BisonFellow

Hmm...If someone was a big recruit and was coming to NDSU mainly because of football...I think it would take some strange connection to NDSU, either for a specific academic program or some overwhelming family connection. Otherwise I don't see it if they have other big offers. NDSU is a great school for the area, and has the old football tradition, but NDSU is not as attractive a place to go and play (for most kids) as would be a good Pac10 team, etc. 18,000 people in a dark dome isn't as impressive as most high level FBS programs in my opinion.

Stanford is on the way up, up, up, but Harvard is harvard. Sounds like the kid has more on his mind than 'football first.' If I got a scholarship to go there I'd go there too.

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I might be wrong, but I thought that IVY league schools were nonscholarship for sports? Someone please correct me if I am.

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Originally Posted by tony

Gotta like his speed. NDSU's football team will be able to put together some DI-caliber relay squads, that's for sure.

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[Now standing on a favorite soapbox as a former runner and teammate of your Coach Lars"]

A few years ago the Bison football and track teams shared some athletes, particularly sprinters. In the past year or two, I think there have been no Bison on both squads.

Gebhart is a fabulous high-school 400-meter runner and I think he'll continue to get stronger and faster. His dad and uncle (twins) were record setters at SDSU. Will Gebhart be allowed to run track? It'd be a crime if he wanted to run track for Don Larson but was required to play just football.

As I said, I think (am not 100% positive but I can't name any right now and I could name a few just three and four years ago) there are no Bison football players who are also running track. Is there a connection with the struggles the football team is having?

seems like its been forever since we.ve had a commit

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Originally Posted by JackJD

[Now standing on a favorite soapbox as a former runner and teammate of your Coach Lars"]

A few years ago the Bison football and track teams shared some athletes, particularly sprinters. In the past year or two, I think there have been no Bison on both squads.

Gebhart is a fabulous high-school 400-meter runner and I think he'll continue to get stronger and faster. His dad and uncle (twins) were record setters at SDSU. Will Gebhart be allowed to run track? It'd be a crime if he wanted to run track for Don Larson but was required to play just football.

As I said, I think (am not 100% positive but I can't name any right now and I could name a few just three and four years ago) there are no Bison football players who are also running track. Is there a connection with the struggles the football team is having?

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Kevin Jackson is. That's the only one I know of right now

ROSEMOUNT RECEIVING
PLAYER ATT YDS YPR TD
#82 Zachary Vraa, SR 4 137 34.3 2


kid is incredible.


Champlain Park
CP: Marquardt 33 pass from Harvey (Hamilton kick)
O: Conner 39 run (Fickle kick)
O: Conner 1 run (Fickle kick)
CP: Marquardt 16 run (Hamilton kick)
CP: Marquardt 29 run (pass failed)


Marquardt had 3 td's over 100 yard rushin and receiving.


NDSU NEEDS NEEDS NEEDS to get at least 1 of these 2 TOP receivers in minnesota!!

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Originally Posted by CarringtonBison

I might be wrong, but I thought that IVY league schools were nonscholarship for sports? Someone please correct me if I am.

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yeah thats right, they do not give out schollys for athletics

Big game in South Dakota this weekend: SF Washington vs O'Gorman. NDSU has recruits on both teams.

WR Trevor Gebhart: He has 9 of his team's 36 receptions (they don't pass a lot since they've played 8 games) and averages 52 yards per kickoff return with two TDs (!!!).

LB Michael Hardie: O'Gorman has some pretty good linebackers and their defense hasn't allowed more than 7 points since their first game. Hardie is actually third on the team in tackles from his rush end spot - he leads the team in sacks though.

Argus does a nice job covering HS sports, btw:

http://www.argusleader.com/article/2...057/COLUMNISTS

Man, I'd like to see the winner of this game play Bismarck High.

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Originally Posted by lakesbison

ROSEMOUNT RECEIVING
PLAYER ATT YDS YPR TD
#82 Zachary Vraa, SR 4 137 34.3 2


kid is incredible.


Champlain Park
CP: Marquardt 33 pass from Harvey (Hamilton kick)
O: Conner 39 run (Fickle kick)
O: Conner 1 run (Fickle kick)
CP: Marquardt 16 run (Hamilton kick)
CP: Marquardt 29 run (pass failed)


Marquardt had 3 td's over 100 yard rushin and receiving.


NDSU NEEDS NEEDS NEEDS to get at least 1 of these 2 TOP receivers in minnesota!!

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Actually, Marquart is a running back so he wouldn't be a top receiver in Minnesota. Having said that, I've seen him play a couple times last year (I live half a mile from the school) and by the end of the first quarter I asked the guys I was with who was recruiting him. He was pretty good. To be specific in the game you quoted above, he had 20 carries for 136 yards and 1 reception for 33 yards. The week before, against Park Center (terrible team) he had 15 carries for 174 yards (3 TD's) and 3 catches for 91 yards (2 TD's). He's definitely a player - so good luck to the Bison in getting him.

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Originally Posted by Hambone

Actually, Marquart is a running back so he wouldn't be a top receiver in Minnesota. Having said that, I've seen him play a couple times last year (I live half a mile from the school) and by the end of the first quarter I asked the guys I was with who was recruiting him. He was pretty good. To be specific in the game you quoted above, he had 20 carries for 136 yards and 1 reception for 33 yards. The week before, against Park Center (terrible team) he had 15 carries for 174 yards (3 TD's) and 3 catches for 91 yards (2 TD's). He's definitely a player - so good luck to the Bison in getting him.

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If we get him and 10 other minnesota prep recruits on offense, according to Lakes, nobody in the country would be able to stop us.

I FORGOT AJ TROUP>!! & Marquart could be a receiver.. sorry HAMBONE.

yes bisonmike, if NDSU would get 10 athletes from the METRO and take them away from the Mac's, MWC's and BIG TEN, then yes, we would be set!

You can watch Gebhart here tonight. He scored a first half touchdown.
http://www.argusleader.com/article/9...mplate=mogulus

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Originally Posted by tony

Big game in South Dakota this weekend: SF Washington vs O'Gorman. NDSU has recruits on both teams.

WR Trevor Gebhart: He has 9 of his team's 36 receptions (they don't pass a lot since they've played 8 games) and averages 52 yards per kickoff return with two TDs (!!!).

LB Michael Hardie: O'Gorman has some pretty good linebackers and their defense hasn't allowed more than 7 points since their first game. Hardie is actually third on the team in tackles from his rush end spot - he leads the team in sacks though.

Argus does a nice job covering HS sports, btw:

http://www.argusleader.com/article/2...057/COLUMNISTS

Man, I'd like to see the winner of this game play Bismarck High.

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somebody should organize a charity fund raiser with the SD and ND champs

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Originally Posted by westnodak93bison

somebody should organize a charity fund raiser with the SD and ND champs

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I've occasionally wondered if ND and SD could combine HS athletics.

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Originally Posted by tony

I've occasionally wondered if ND and SD could combine HS athletics.

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It would certainly widen the playing field a bit, but driving distances for some games would probably get insane into the 7-10 hour range, depending.

Then again, seeing the same 8 teams in the West Region finals does get old in ND.

Sioux Falls Washington has a really good team this year. Everyone here knows about WR Gebhardt, but they also have two Farniok brothers on the O-Line. The SR Tom is going to play center for Iowa St, and the Jr Derek is 6'9, 300lbs and will probably play anywhere he wants to next year.

Washington 35 O'Gorman 21.
Gebhart had a 37 yard TD catch, 2 passes broken up and a fumble recovery that he returned to the 1 yard line. Did not get any punts or kickoffs kicked to him. Hardie had a ton of tackles and a couple receptions for O'Gorman.

NDSU has offered Ashland (WI) OL Aaron Esala (6-4, 305).

Article: http://www.wissports.net/sports/foot...113&id=1079174

Player Profile: http://www.wissports.net/sports/foot...26529&tid=1417

he big! thanks marlin!

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Originally Posted by Marlins

NDSU has offered Ashland (WI) OL Aaron Esala (6-4, 305).

Article: http://www.wissports.net/sports/foot...113&id=1079174

Player Profile: http://www.wissports.net/sports/foot...26529&tid=1417

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thanks for the info. the links didn't work for me. 6-4 305lbs. Nice size.

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Originally Posted by bisonmike2

thanks for the info. the links didn't work for me. 6-4 305lbs. Nice size.

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The links work...the WIAA released the state playoff pairings today and so the overwhelming traffic to our website caused everything to run extremely slow and/or not work temporarily.

Everything should be fine now that the traffic has died down some.

im getting VERY worried about Minnesota Recruiting.

11 kids and only 1 Minnesotan so far *and he's here because of josh campion's recruiting 2 years ago* they played and trained together.


time to hit up the MINN METRO COACHES!! instead of partying in fargo, get in a car on a thur/fri and go 3 hours south!!

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Originally Posted by lakesbison

im getting VERY worried about Minnesota Recruiting.

11 kids and only 1 Minnesotan so far *and he's here because of josh campion's recruiting 2 years ago* they played and trained together.


time to hit up the MINN METRO COACHES!! instead of partying in fargo, get in a car on a thur/fri and go 3 hours south!!

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We have at least five offers out to MN kids, just gotta get some verbals.

CB Adam Dixon of Laveen, Arizona has an offer from NDSU. 5'10 180 lbs. 3 star recruit. Also has an offer from Northern Arizona. The Bison seem to be going after a few prospects from Arizona.