Sagarin says

[thebootfitter]

Sure am glad to see the top 4 teams in the country playing each other in the second round of the playoffs.

Sounds like the good ol' days of the NCC.

[THEsocalledfan]

Sounds like the good ol' days of the NCC.

On one hand, this is really shitty. On the other, it gives NDSU an easier path to the title as one other of the best teams will be gone. While I agree it is Mickey Mouse quality stuff, it ends up being okay for NDSU. We all know the MVFC is basically playing for the national title this year with maybe EWU being a thread if Vernon lights it up.

[SoCalBison]

After beating SDSU, the Bison fall 5 spots to #40 on Sagarin...after losing to the Bison, SDSU also falls 5 spots to #75.

Among the MVFC teams, Illinois State moves up one to #59, and UNI falls six to #61. Despite MVFC being down to two remaining teams, MVFC has the top four FCS teams in Sagarin.

Coastal Carolina moved up five to #91 after yesterday. Bison are 15 point favorites heading into the quarterfinals.

[tony]

Sounds like the good ol' days of the NCC.

D2 was different. In D2, the MVFC would only get two teams in, and they'd either play non-conference teams on the road or they'd play each other.

[Hammersmith]

Sagarin's Round 3 Predictions

						
Rank 	Team		       Sagarin	  Predict    Result      Diff
 40	North Dakota State  	76.21			
 90	Iowa State          	63.29	   +10.49    +20.00	 +9.51
188	Weber State         	40.11	   +33.67    +17.00	-16.67
233	Incarnate Word      	23.05	   +55.59    +58.00	 +2.41
129	Montana             	53.97	   +24.67    +12.00	-12.67
126	Western Illinois    	54.78	   +19.00     +7.00	-12.00
110	Southern Illinois   	57.91	   +20.73    +28.00	 +7.27
 99	Indiana State       	61.41	   +17.23    +17.00	 -0.23
172	South Dakota        	44.22	   +29.56    +40.00	+10.44
 75	South Dakota State  	66.71	   +11.93    +20.00	 +8.07
 61	Northern Iowa       	70.34	    +3.44    -20.00	-23.44
119	Missouri State      	56.56	   +17.22    +35.00	+17.78
112	Youngstown State    	57.62	   +21.02    +24.00	 +2.98
					
 59	Illinois State      	71.55			
					
 75	South Dakota State  	66.71	   +11.93     +3.00	 -8.93
 91	Coastal Carolina    	63.24	   +15.40		
100	Sam Houston State   	61.29	   +17.35		
104	Villanova           	59.92	   +18.72		
					
						Total Diff:	-15.48
	Home Field		 2.43

Sagarin FCS Top-25

						
Rank  SagRank  RATING   Team                     SOS  SOSRank   Conference
 1	 40	76.21	North Dakota State  	56.18	131	Missouri Valley
 2	 59	71.55	Illinois State      	54.42	138	Missouri Valley
 3	 61	70.34	Northern Iowa       	59.15	110	Missouri Valley
 4	 75	66.71	South Dakota State  	61.17	 97	Missouri Valley
 5	 76	66.67	Chattanooga         	48.86	159	Southern
 6	 91	63.24	Coastal Carolina    	42.48	191	Big South
 7	 94	62.48	Jacksonville State  	47.37	169	Ohio Valley
 8	 96	62.20	Eastern Washington  	47.89	165	Big Sky
 9	 97	62.16	New Hampshire       	42.32	192	Colonial
10	 99	61.41	Indiana State       	60.81	102	Missouri Valley
11	100	61.29	Sam Houston State   	49.04	157	Southland
12	104	59.92	Villanova           	43.42	186	Colonial
13	106	59.18	SE Louisiana        	42.69	189	Southland
14	109	58.05	Samford             	54.02	140	Southern
15	110	57.91	Southern Illinois   	59.46	108	Missouri Valley
16	111	57.76	Liberty             	51.96	142	Big South
17	112	57.62	Youngstown State    	55.24	134	Missouri Valley
18	117	56.76	Harvard             	32.05	228	Ivy League
19	118	56.60	Idaho State         	49.92	149	Big Sky
20	119	56.56	Missouri State      	60.98	 99	Missouri Valley
21	126	54.78	Western Illinois    	61.95	 90	Missouri Valley
22	127	54.34	Fordham             	37.30	213	Patriot
23	129	53.97	Montana             	47.25	170	Big Sky
24	134	52.65	Charleston Southern 	47.99	164	Big South
25	135	52.62	Eastern Illinois    	49.18	155	Ohio Valley

Sagarin Conference Ranking

						
ConfCat Conference 	        CMean  ConfMax	NDSU Rank
P5	SEC                 	86.62	100.49	    13
P5	BIG 12              	79.38	 97.24	     7
P5	PAC-12              	78.43	 96.43	     9
P5	ACC                 	74.42	 86.20	     6
P5	BIG TEN             	74.01	 96.05	     6
NA	I-A INDEPENDENTS    	67.72	 77.38	     2
G5	MWC                 	63.49	 77.87	     2
FCS	MISSOURI VALLEY     	61.59	 76.21	     1
G5	AMERICAN ATHLETIC   	60.41	 74.94	     1
G5	CONFERENCE USA      	60.25	 78.47	     2
G5	SUN BELT            	55.64	 68.70	     1
G5	MAC                 	54.69	 68.05	     1
FCS	BIG SOUTH           	48.71	 63.24	     1
FCS	SOUTHERN            	47.25	 66.67	     1
FCS	BIG SKY             	44.52	 62.20	     1
FCS	SOUTHLAND           	44.30	 61.29	     1
FCS	COLONIAL            	43.39	 62.16	     1
FCS	OHIO VALLEY         	42.63	 62.48	     1
FCS	I-AA INDEPENDENTS   	39.07	 39.07	     1
FCS	PATRIOT             	38.31	 54.34	     1
FCS	NORTHEAST           	37.15	 47.07	     1
FCS	IVY LEAGUE          	33.05	 56.76	     1
FCS	MID-EASTERN         	31.03	 44.47	     1
FCS	SWAC                	26.00	 45.78	     1
FCS	PIONEER             	17.02	 36.18	     1

[NorthernBison]

Sounds like the good ol' days of the NCC.

Tony is correct. Comparisons to D2 regionalization are apples and oranges. The SELECTION was regional in D2. In the FCS, the selection is NOT regional. Only the bracketing is affected. The difference is huge.

[thebootfitter]

Tony is correct. Comparisons to D2 regionalization are apples and oranges. The SELECTION was regional in D2. In the FCS, the selection is NOT regional. Only the bracketing is affected. The difference is huge.

My point was simply that many of the top teams in the country then were in our conference, just as today. I may not have made the point very clearly, though.

[NorthernBison]

My point was simply that many of the top teams in the country then were in our conference, just as today. I may not have made the point very clearly, though.

I quoted you simply because of the reference to D2. Your point is valid.

Kolpack wrote a story last week that bugged me. I hope he's smart enough to know the difference and accept the reasons why the NCAA regionalizes the initial brackets for FCS. One look at the attendance shows why.

End of drift.

[bisonaudit]

Team...................... Quarters. Semis. Final
#1 New Hampshire ---- 43.9% 16.9% 3.8%
#8 Chattanooga -------- 56.1% 21.0% 6.8%
#5 Illinois State ------- 69.6% 48.9% 21.9%
#4 Eastern Washington 30.4% 13.2% 3.0%

Sam Houston State ----- 46.9% 6.3% 2.1%
#6 Villanova ------------ 53.1% 7.1% 2.1%
#7 Coastal Carolina ---- 12.8% 7.3% 2.7%
#2 North Dakota State 87.2% 79.3% 57.6%

[MNLonghorn10]

Looking forward to getting home after the ndsu game and watching the isu ewu game. That's quite the tilt for a seeded road team