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    Quote Originally Posted by THEsocalledfan View Post
    I say FCS should retire all polls and just use Sagarin. That has NDSU #1 and UNI #2. That is accurate....
    That could have as many as 8 MVFC teams in the playoffs although I'm sure there are some autobids that won't be in the top 24.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZHerd View Post
    4 Valley teams in Sagarin FCS top 5...wow!
    And 8 in the top 25.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueBisonRock View Post
    And 8 in the top 25.
    Some of the most major conference dominance I have witnessed. Hopefully we aren't all forced to kill each other off right away come playoff time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZHerd View Post
    Some of the most major conference dominance I have witnessed. Hopefully we aren't all forced to kill each other off right away come playoff time.
    That's a great point. Not only could we be forced to all eliminate the rest of the conference, the survivor is beat up from a couple more conference games. There aren't too many schools out there that play as physical as valley schools. So it sure seems very fair that not only do the valley teams earn a playoff spot, but they should have to beat up each other again to advance. Maybe that is the equalizer. When the New Hampshires or EWUs finally face a valley team, they are extra tenderized.

    It isn't fair to any of the valley schools to get through the conference and then have to face the conference to advance again. Might as well drop the playoffs to eight teams and have nothing but conference champions. Obviously, the NCAAs are not about fairness. By the way, I thought the UNH/Maine matchup was pretty weak too last year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by td577 View Post
    That's a great point. Not only could we be forced to all eliminate the rest of the conference, the survivor is beat up from a couple more conference games. There aren't too many schools out there that play as physical as valley schools. So it sure seems very fair that not only do the valley teams earn a playoff spot, but they should have to beat up each other again to advance. Maybe that is the equalizer. When the New Hampshires or EWUs finally face a valley team, they are extra tenderized.

    It isn't fair to any of the valley schools to get through the conference and then have to face the conference to advance again. Might as well drop the playoffs to eight teams and have nothing but conference champions. Obviously, the NCAAs are not about fairness. By the way, I thought the UNH/Maine matchup was pretty weak too last year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZHerd View Post
    Yep, it is stupid.
    If it were your pocketbook paying for travel, you might not think it so stupid. Is it less pure than it could be? Sure. But it's probably not a bad solution considering the funds that are available. That's the world we live in. Sometimes compromises are made.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thebootfitter View Post
    If it were your pocketbook paying for travel, you might not think it so stupid. Is it less pure than it could be? Sure. But it's probably not a bad solution considering the funds that are available. That's the world we live in. Sometimes compromises are made.
    I get that side of it, as well. It just sucks sometimes given that maybe the most deserving schools might not get the best draw based on strength because geography plays a part. It is what it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by td577 View Post
    I get that side of it, as well. It just sucks sometimes given that maybe the most deserving schools might not get the best draw based on strength because geography plays a part. It is what it is.

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    That is why my point of view on this might be construed as greedy. I hate the idea of possibly 4-5 MVFC teams being clumped together in the playoffs (or any conference for that matter). I myself no matter if it is right or wrong would rather see no more than three make it from any conference. Bad enough that we have to beat each other up during the regular season but then we would be counted on to take each other out during the playoffs to make it easier for the rest of the teams to advance. I know it is a pocketbook decision and my thought is that at this level if you can't afford to send you team across the country then why are you playing in the FCS, let a team in that isn't going to complain about the fact they are lucky to be there in the first place make the trip for a shot at a national title.
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    I don't have a problem if there are MVFC matchups in the second round.

    I'll be pissed when all 4 or 5 MVFC teams are on the same side of the bracket.
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    The NCAA won't match up teams from the same conference if it is the 1st playoff game for both teams. That does still allow for scenarios like past years when NDSU had a 1st round bye and SDSU one their 1st round game so we wound up playing SDSU in our 1st game, but it was their 2nd.
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