A new and better FBS thread

[td577]

Don't they still play the likes of Crookston and Minot? That's has to get the fans pumped.

The schedule is not a problem. Sure they start the season with Minot State, but that is an exhibition and doesn't count in the standings. This upcoming season actually has one of the best schedules in the history of the program. Texas, Iowa, Akron, and the conference are not a problem. With around a 30 game schedule, there is a always a game or two where you take what you can get. The problem with NDSU basketball is consistency and identity. Right now the fans and alumni are trained to have a run every five years with a build up in-between. So there is no reason for anyone to think this is not a rebuilding year. Whether that is entirely true or nor is irrelevant, it is how everyone has been trained to think at this point even though they return one of the best defenders in the conference and one of the best point guards in the conference.

If NDSU can build a program where they can cut that 5 window in half, you will see a huge jump in preseason ticket sales and season ticket sales. Just having a product that will compete for a conference championship every 3 years, instead of every 5 will put a lot of butts in the seats. Combining that with an actual identity on the court will pay off tenfold. You take Tarkanian led teams, for example, you always knew what you would get. Full court, non-stop pressure defense and the green light at the three point line, every possession. It wasn't always successful in terms of championships, but there was an obvious identity regardless of what names were on the court. He had a religious following no matter where he was because of an identity. We need to find an identity.

[NDSUstudent]

A massive problem the BSA is now out of the way. I don't think people understand how much that dump held the program back.

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[acf2]

A massive problem the BSA is now out of the way. I don't people understand how much that dump held the program back.

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Boy you got that right.

[td577]

A massive problem the BSA is now out of the way. I don't people understand how much that dump held the program back.

Sent from my A0001

I agree. A serious move in the right direction.

I am excited for the future of basketball for NDSU. I spent a couple of posts seeming to complain but really I think my points aren't exactly a secret. As NDSU continues to gain national exposure, other programs within the university will start finding recruiting a little easier, and they will get players they want to build programs around not what was left that they have to build around. Basketball hasn't reached a point, yet, where anyone can say they want specific type of player targeted. I don't think they are far away from that kind of model. When they get there, everything else will fall into place. A brand new home people will love to come to, a program with an identity people can relate to, and the possibility of contention people will want to hang their hope on. Then the program has its own life. When a coach moves on, then the answer is a coach that fits the program. When recruiting student/athletes, it will be which ones fit a program, not who is left with the minimal amount of talent. This is sounding a lot like the football program. They have found their way there and that is the model you want to emulate. You want a program where the system dictates your next move, not where desperation puts you in situations. Basketball needs more wins and needs them sooner then 5 years from now to get there.

I do think the program is right about where football was in 2007. On the verge of looking like it has found an identity and if you get into the game now, you will be like those of us in football 8 seasons later saying I told you so and I have seats.

[Strongman]

A saw a good idea by a sportswriter when playoff expands to 8 teams. Each Big 5 conference champion gets an automatic bid, the top ranked conference champion from the other 5 conferences gets an automatic bid, and there are two at large bids. It is not perfect. But it does give all teams a chance @ playoffs. 16 teams would be much better. But this is not bad.

[El_Chapo]

SHAC & FBS conference would catapult NDSU basketball into top 50 programs for eternity!!

[JMB]

A saw a good idea by a sportswriter when playoff expands to 8 teams. Each Big 5 conference champion gets an automatic bid, the top ranked conference champion from the other 5 conferences gets an automatic bid, and there are two at large bids. It is not perfect. But it does give all teams a chance @ playoffs. 16 teams would be much better. But this is not bad.

The only way this would likely happen if the non-big 5 team had a tough non-conference schedule game that they won. It is going to be hard to say "Hey lets take Northern Illinois" when they beat some MAC teams, Minnesota and UND or something.

[Strongman]

Well, it not that much of a stretch. A non Big Five team is usually ranked in the top #16 to #20 every year. Occasionally, Boise State has been ranked in the top 8. Having them as an #8 seed would seem awful generous to critics, but the other conferences are technically part of the division.

16 teams would be much better because you could have 10 automatic qualifiers for all conference champions or 5 automatic bids for the Big 5 and at least one or perhaps two for the conference champions in the other 5 conferences.

[56BISON73]

Well, it not that much of a stretch. A non Big Five team is usually ranked in the top #16 to #20 every year. Occasionally, Boise State has been ranked in the top 8. Having them as an #8 seed would seem awful generous to critics, but the other conferences are technically part of the division.

16 teams would be much better because you could have 10 automatic qualifiers for all conference champions or 5 automatic bids for the Big 5 and at least one or perhaps two for the conference champions in the other 5 conferences.

You are obviously missing the point why the P5 now has autonomy. They dont wanna share. They have no reason to allow any other teams in their sand box. If push come to shove they will have it written that no team outside the P5 can be in their play off unless they are ranked ahead of any of their teams. But it will take a lot for that to happen. They are going to have 64 teams in there conference. You think the Sunbelt, MAC,MWC is going break that door down?

[El_Chapo]

link please?