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    Quote Originally Posted by Hammersmith View Post
    I'm surprised about our big jump. That and a couple other things makes me wonder about last week's ratings. I wish I would have looked at them yesterday to see if they had changed since last Sunday. But the MVFC continues its dominance. Less than a point separates the AAC, MWC & MVC. Half the FCS top-10 is from the Valley. Our game vs. UNI is opening up, and SDSU is now a 2-TD prediction. I noticed today that there were a couple small errors in the MAC portion of my spreadsheet. I think it means I had the MAC just a tiny bit higher than they should have been. But not enough to shift their position in relation to other conferences. Oh, and the Big Sky dropped out of the FCS top-5; Tatanka will be pleased. But you won't believe which team is sitting at 26th.

    Sagarin's Week 8 Predictions
    Code:
    			       Sagarin	  Predict    Result	 Diff
     39	North Dakota State	76.99			
     62	Iowa State		70.61      +3.09     +20.00     +16.91
    210	Weber State		41.76	  +31.94     +17.00	-14.94
    240	Incarnate Word		26.44	  +53.84     +58.00	 +4.16
    115	Montana			59.35	  +20.93     +12.00	 -8.93
    145	Western Illinois	54.01	  +19.69      +7.00	-12.69
     88	Southern Illinois	64.66	  +15.62     +28.00	+12.38
    109	Indiana State		60.78	  +19.50		
    162	South Dakota		50.41	  +23.29		
     82	South Dakota State	65.82	  +14.46		
     80	Northern Iowa		66.77	   +6.93		
    104	Missouri State		61.47	  +12.23		
    116	Youngstown State	59.22	  +21.06		
    					
     61	Illinois State		71.30			
    						Total Diff:	 -3.11
    	Home Field		 3.29
    Sagarin FCS Top-25
    Code:
     1   39  North Dakota State
     2   61  Illinois State
     3   71  New Hampshire
     4   76  Villanova
     5   78  Eastern Washington
     6   80  Northern Iowa
     7   81  Jacksonville State
     8   82  South Dakota State
     9   85  McNeese State
    10   88  Southern Illinois
    11   90  Sam Houston State
    12   91  Coastal Carolina
    13  101  Harvard
    14  102  SE Louisiana
    15  104  Missouri State
    16  105  Chattanooga
    17  107  Richmond
    18  109  Indiana State
    19  110  Eastern Kentucky
    20  115  Montana
    21  116  Youngstown State
    22  118  Montana State
    23  121  Fordham
    24  129  Samford
    25  130  Bethune-Cookman
    Sagarin Top-5 FCS Conferences
    Code:
    1.  MVFC	63.09
    2.  Colonial	50.24
    3.  Southern	50.05
    4.  Southland	49.85
    5.  Ohio Valley 49.06


    FBS Comparisons
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    #1  in the AAC, MAC, MWC, & Sun Belt
    #2  in C-USA
    #5  in the Big Ten
    #6  in the ACC
    #7  in the Big 12
    #9  in the PAC-12
    #13 in the SEC
    Non-P5 Top 10 Conferences
    Code:
    1.  AAC		63.82
    2.  MWC		63.19
    3.  MVFC	63.09
    4.  C-USA	60.67
    5.  MAC		56.42
    6.  SBC		54.43
    7.  CAA 	50.24
    8.  Socon 	50.05
    9.  SLC		49.85
    10. OVC		49.06
    Okay, I'll bite, who?

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    LOL where's the big fluffy?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BisonNeil View Post
    Okay, I'll bite, who?
    26. 131 Idaho State 56.72

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    Quote Originally Posted by BisonNeil View Post
    Okay, I'll bite, who?
    Holy shit. That ain't no small potatoes lol.
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    I had looked at Sagarin early this morning before this week was posted--and last week's rankings hadn't been adjusted during the week. Also, Bison are ranked 17 in ELO. Just another good week to be a Bison fan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tatanka View Post
    Holy shit. That ain't no small potatoes lol.
    Them bad Canadian teams sure help the rating.

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    Based on Sagarin's RATING numbers (3.29 home field) and a 2.61 pt kicker for coming off a bye week, here's the outlook for the remainder of the regular season:

    Indiana State 92.5% (+3.9% from last week)
    South Dakota 95.7% (+2.9%)
    South Dakota State 85.7% (+2.1%)
    Northern Iowa 69.6% (+8.0%)
    Missouri State 81.7% (+9.8%)
    Youngstown State 94.0% (+5.6%)

    12-0 40.6% (+18.4% from last week)
    11-1 41.2% (+2.2%)
    10-2 15.3% (-11.8%)
    9-3 2.7% (-6.9%)
    8-4 0.2% (-1.7%)
    7-5 0.01% (-0.2%)
    6-6 0.0002%

    Assumes a normal distribution of outcomes w/ Sagarin's projected spread as the mean and a standard deviation of 13.86. In round numbers this means that if the spread is 14 the model predicts that roughly 2/3 of the outcomes will be between a tie and a 28 point victory. Half of the remaining outcomes or about 1/6 of all the outcomes would be a victory by more than 28 and there would be roughly a 1 in 6 chance that the team favored by 14 would lose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bisonaudit View Post
    Based on Sagarin's RATING numbers (3.29 home field) and a 2.61 pt kicker for coming off a bye week, here's the outlook for the remainder of the regular season:

    Indiana State 92.5% (+3.9% from last week)
    South Dakota 95.7% (+2.9%)
    South Dakota State 85.7% (+2.1%)
    Northern Iowa 69.6% (+8.0%)
    Missouri State 81.7% (+9.8%)
    Youngstown State 94.0% (+5.6%)

    12-0 40.6% (+18.4% from last week)
    11-1 41.2% (+2.2%)
    10-2 15.3% (-11.8%)
    9-3 2.7% (-6.9%)
    8-4 0.2% (-1.7%)
    7-5 0.01% (-0.2%)
    6-6 0.0002%

    Assumes a normal distribution of outcomes w/ Sagarin's projected spread as the mean and a standard deviation of 13.86. In round numbers this means that if the spread is 14 the model predicts that roughly 2/3 of the outcomes will be between a tie and a 28 point victory. Half of the remaining outcomes or about 1/6 of all the outcomes would be a victory by more than 28 and there would be roughly a 1 in 6 chance that the team favored by 14 would lose.
    Well, I just scheduled every Friday after Thanksgiving off through the end of the year. I want to be prepared in case we end up with a Friday night game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bisonaudit View Post
    Based on Sagarin's RATING numbers (3.29 home field) and a 2.61 pt kicker for coming off a bye week, here's the outlook for the remainder of the regular season:

    Indiana State 92.5% (+3.9% from last week)
    South Dakota 95.7% (+2.9%)
    South Dakota State 85.7% (+2.1%)
    Northern Iowa 69.6% (+8.0%)
    Missouri State 81.7% (+9.8%)
    Youngstown State 94.0% (+5.6%)

    12-0 40.6% (+18.4% from last week)
    11-1 41.2% (+2.2%)
    10-2 15.3% (-11.8%)
    9-3 2.7% (-6.9%)
    8-4 0.2% (-1.7%)
    7-5 0.01% (-0.2%)
    6-6 0.0002%

    Assumes a normal distribution of outcomes w/ Sagarin's projected spread as the mean and a standard deviation of 13.86. In round numbers this means that if the spread is 14 the model predicts that roughly 2/3 of the outcomes will be between a tie and a 28 point victory. Half of the remaining outcomes or about 1/6 of all the outcomes would be a victory by more than 28 and there would be roughly a 1 in 6 chance that the team favored by 14 would lose.
    I knew the probability of undefeated would take a big jump, but my goodness.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hammersmith View Post
    I'm surprised about our big jump. That and a couple other things makes me wonder about last week's ratings. I wish I would have looked at them yesterday to see if they had changed since last Sunday. But the MVFC continues its dominance. Less than a point separates the AAC, MWC & MVC. Half the FCS top-10 is from the Valley. Our game vs. UNI is opening up, and SDSU is now a 2-TD prediction. I noticed today that there were a couple small errors in the MAC portion of my spreadsheet. I think it means I had the MAC just a tiny bit higher than they should have been. But not enough to shift their position in relation to other conferences. Oh, and the Big Sky dropped out of the FCS top-5; Tatanka will be pleased. But you won't believe which team is sitting at 26th.


    Sagarin's Week 8 Predictions
    Code:
    			       Sagarin	  Predict    Result	 Diff
     39	North Dakota State	76.99			
     62	Iowa State		70.61      +3.09     +20.00     +16.91
    210	Weber State		41.76	  +31.94     +17.00	-14.94
    240	Incarnate Word		26.44	  +53.84     +58.00	 +4.16
    115	Montana			59.35	  +20.93     +12.00	 -8.93
    145	Western Illinois	54.01	  +19.69      +7.00	-12.69
     88	Southern Illinois	64.66	  +15.62     +28.00	+12.38
    109	Indiana State		60.78	  +19.50		
    162	South Dakota		50.41	  +23.29		
     82	South Dakota State	65.82	  +14.46		
     80	Northern Iowa		66.77	   +6.93		
    104	Missouri State		61.47	  +12.23		
    116	Youngstown State	59.22	  +21.06		
    					
     61	Illinois State		71.30			
    						Total Diff:	 -3.11
    	Home Field		 3.29
    Sagarin FCS Top-25
    Code:
     1   39  North Dakota State
     2   61  Illinois State
     3   71  New Hampshire
     4   76  Villanova
     5   78  Eastern Washington
     6   80  Northern Iowa
     7   81  Jacksonville State
     8   82  South Dakota State
     9   85  McNeese State
    10   88  Southern Illinois
    11   90  Sam Houston State
    12   91  Coastal Carolina
    13  101  Harvard
    14  102  SE Louisiana
    15  104  Missouri State
    16  105  Chattanooga
    17  107  Richmond
    18  109  Indiana State
    19  110  Eastern Kentucky
    20  115  Montana
    21  116  Youngstown State
    22  118  Montana State
    23  121  Fordham
    24  129  Samford
    25  130  Bethune-Cookman
    Sagarin Top-5 FCS Conferences
    Code:
    1.  MVFC	63.09
    2.  Colonial	50.24
    3.  Southern	50.05
    4.  Southland	49.85
    5.  Ohio Valley 49.06


    FBS Comparisons
    Code:
    #1  in the AAC, MAC, MWC, & Sun Belt
    #2  in C-USA
    #5  in the Big Ten
    #6  in the ACC
    #7  in the Big 12
    #9  in the PAC-12
    #13 in the SEC
    Non-P5 Top 10 Conferences
    Code:
    1.  AAC		63.82
    2.  MWC		63.19
    3.  MVFC	63.09
    4.  C-USA	60.67
    5.  MAC		56.42
    6.  SBC		54.43
    7.  CAA 	50.24
    8.  Socon 	50.05
    9.  SLC		49.85
    10. OVC		49.06
    Does Iowa State beating Toledo (one of the top teams in the MAC) help give NDSU a boost?
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