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[NDSUstudent]

I have a question for the"""we must move up now""" crowd. Where do we move up to? I dont see any conference invites. Plus you cant force your way in to a conference. You can say we are moving up all you want but if you dont have a conference to play in this is just an exercise in mental masturbation.

And just to stop all the BS of, we could go here or there lets just say NOBODY want NDSU in their conference and we are frozen out.

So what do you FBS pud pounders do now?

Nothing can be done but to keep on winning and continue to build up our program where we are at. The people that think you can politic your way into a conference are wrong, if they want to add a team they will come to you. Sure our AD and President can gauge their interest but that is about all they can do. No AD we would have hired could convince a a conference to add NDSU, it just doesn't work that way. They need to have interest in expanding and adding you before convincing anyone can happen.

None of these conferences want to add anyone at all, I haven't heard anyone say the MWC is looking to add or the MAC is looking. The Sun Belt is but NDSU going there makes no sense for either party. So yeah we are stuck.

[Mr Meaty]

Keep the dome running as normal with construction on the outside of the dome takes place to add a 2nd level of seating. 34 sections 15 rows high with 18 seat across will add 9,180 seats to the capacity of the dome. You can finish out the upper level corners with a pie shape section which should add another xxx number of seat we are now at around 30,000 seats. Once the seats are in and a partial overhang on the upper level take down the roof on the dome and we are ready for play in two years. Up ticket prices across the board and we are golden. FBS is in our future. Balls to the wall. Lets do this.

[bisonmike2]

If NDSU raises all the money privately. They can't do squat about it!! they didn't stop the NAZI-IGLOO

Well we should start now because it took us 12 years to raise 30 million for the SHAC. So it's going to take us roughly 30 years to raise 100 million for the stadium we want but in 30 years to build the stadium we want we are going to need to raise 200 million but that will take us 60 years to raise 200 million but in 60 years we are going to need 400 million to build the stadium we want so we'll need to raise.....etc..etc.

[56BISON73]

Nothing can be done but to keep on winning and continue to build up our program where we are at. The people that think you can politic your way into a conference are wrong, if they want to add a team they will come to you. Sure our AD and President can gauge their interest but that is about all they can do. No AD we would have hired could convince a a conference to add NDSU, it just doesn't work that way. They need to have interest in expanding and adding you before convincing anyone can happen.

None of these conferences want to add anyone at all, I haven't heard anyone say the MWC is looking to add or the MAC is looking. The Sun Belt is but NDSU going there makes no sense for either party. So yeah we are stuck.

Exactly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[NDSUstudent]

The MWC as a football conference gets little respect nationally. What you said about Boise State reinforces that it's not really a desirable place to land IMO. I used Boise as an example because everybody sees them as the poster child for success and they were invited to join the Big East. The geography of the MWC sucks. Road night games that start at 9:00 locally and aren't over until Midnight mean our football program becomes invisible to most of the region for half of the season. You are 100% correct about basketball. NDSU basketball would be a bottom feeder in the MWC.

I think you are wrong since those road games would be on national TV. I think NDSU football could be a force in the MWC, basketball would struggle but at least you would have a quality conference to sell. Suddenly in the region NDSU basketball would be in a very strong basketball conference and that might allow NDSU to go after a different class of recruit, it would elevate us above most of the other mid-major programs. Again the basketball program would get national TV games much more regularly. I think the MWC would take NDSU athletics to a whole different level.

That said I don't think MWC would give much thought to add NDSU. It is hard to sell schools in California and Nevada that adding a school in North Dakota is a good idea.

[bisonaudit]

keep the dome running as normal with construction on the outside of the dome takes place to add a 2nd level of seating. 34 sections 15 rows high with 18 seat across will add 9,180 seats to the capacity of the dome. You can finish out the upper level corners with a pie shape section which should add another xxx number of seat we are now at around 30,000 seats. Once the seats are in and a partial overhang on the upper level take down the roof on the dome and we are ready for play in two years. Up ticket prices across the board and we are golden. Fbs is in our future. Balls to the wall. Lets do this.

fify. .

[NorthernBison]

If NDSU raises all the money privately. They can't do squat about it!! they didn't stop the NAZI-IGLOO

UND doesn't own the Ralph. Apples and oranges. BTW, nobody has answered why numbers like $100 Million keep getting thrown around when two reasonably similar projects within 200 miles of Fargo came in at DOUBLE and TRIPLE that cost. Sounds like the President's Mansion all over again. Not acceptable.

[semobison]

I have a question for the"""we must move up now""" crowd. Where do we move up to? I dont see any conference invites. Plus you cant force your way in to a conference. You can say we are moving up all you want but if you dont have a conference to play in this is just an exercise in mental masturbation.

And just to stop all the BS of, we could go here or there lets just say NOBODY want NDSU in their conference and we are frozen out.

So what do you FBS pud pounders do now?

I agree completely! Until the MWC, MAC or whoever announces expansion plans the "move up now crowd" is totally off base. Without a conference invite there is no where to move up to. Trust me, NDSU officials and administration are keeping a sharp eye out on the changing NCAA football landscape.... Talk about beating a dead horse!

[bisonaudit]

UND doesn't own the Ralph. Apples and oranges. BTW, nobody has answered why numbers like $100 Million keep getting thrown around when two reasonably similar projects within 200 miles of Fargo came in at DOUBLE and TRIPLE that cost. Sounds like the President's Mansion all over again. Not acceptable.

Different numbers that are absurdly small keep coming up because anyone who's ever looked at it in even a semi-serious way has concluded that the real number is a very difficult sell, especially when none of your potential partners is even remotely interested.

[Herd]

What drives NDSU to the 2nd Tier, the FBS G5 Level, instead of staying in the current FCS??

1) When NDSU is no longer able to schedule FBS P5 games. MN, IA, NE, KS State and other regional FBS P5 schools will no longer schedule FCS schools, especially good ones. This Time is NOW.
2) When NDSU can't schedule games with the FBS G5. They don't want to play FCS schools unless its an easy win, and NDSU is a definite NO for the group. This Time is NOW.

Why are the two questions above so important for NDSU?

Playing FBS P5 & G5 schools are what have made NDSU relavant in the college Football landscape, and what the fans Want and Need. If the only games that NDSU is able to schedule and play are FCS games, it is TIME to move to the next level. That TIME appears to be NOW.

Why stay FCS? Another Title or Two is the only reason. NDSU's national relavance will peak in 2014, and decline going forward without P5 and G5 games. Iowa in 2016 might help it linger, but after that . . . decline.