FBS move fans. Here's a good read

[MNLonghorn10]

What does the opposing teams fan support have to do with quality of play? I understand what you are saying. But I dont think your talking points arent the catalyst for moving up a division.

Because look at how those great seeded teams did under NDSU.

My talking points are pretty clear. Its money driven now. Any FBS conferences is beneficiary to the MVFC. TV contracts, bowl game payouts, bigger stadium. All help NDSU grow.

the same guys saying the bowl games suck (they do, i know), arent taking the fact that the same division NDSU is in, has games @ a schools home stadium, that are half full. Its just D2 all over again and we're wasting our time here.

Whats the cap PL? Are you gonna be happy with 7 of the next 10 championships with the championship banner now touching the field?

Itd be just getting lame with the program getting a negative perception that it isn't open enough to join the big boys.

[BisonNation11]

Because look at how those great seeded teams did under NDSU.

My talking points are pretty clear. Its money driven now. Any FBS conferences is beneficiary to the MVFC. TV contracts, bowl game payouts, bigger stadium. All help NDSU grow.

the same guys saying the bowl games suck (they do, i know), arent taking the fact that the same division NDSU is in, has games @ a schools home stadium, that are half full. Its just D2 all over again and we're wasting our time here.

Whats the cap PL? Are you gonna be happy with 7 of the next 10 championships with the championship banner now touching the field?

Itd be just getting lame with the program getting a negative perception that it isn't open enough to join the big boys.

Well that's all fine and well, but it also takes money to make money. We don't have it and we won't have it. Until the state realizes it needs to invest more into its universities, this is where we will be. And that's ok. We have success. We have a growing fan base (nation-wide). We are 10 years into this move up. Let's ride it out for awhile. Let's let the BCS/FBS figure out what it's going to do, and jump when the time is right. Forcing it now would be a big mistake. I'm here to support the university in whatever it decides to do and my actions back that up. Do I hope they plan for the future? You bet. But you must also enjoy where you're at as well.

[BisonTeacher]

Did you see the EIU, EWU, SeLa, SHSU stands?

yea, theyre like those meaningless bowl games. but this is for the playoffs. NDSU deserves better than schools who can't afford to pay the electrical bill

I did see those games. Im also looking at the texas bowl stands right now...and the U of M is loosing a lot of money to put on this show right now. So your saying just because schools have money to throw down the drain that is better for ndsu?

National prestige? We already have it. Im tired of that exposure argument. Its crap.

If you think we would compete with the Big boys of FBS .....you are fooling yourself.

[MNLonghorn10]

I did see those games. Im also looking at the texas bowl stands right now...and the U of M is loosing a lot of money to put on this show right now. So your saying just because schools have money to throw down the drain that is better for ndsu?

National prestige? We already have it. Im tired of that exposure argument. Its crap.

If you think we would compete with the Big boys of FBS .....you are fooling yourself.

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[NorthernBison]

If the State decides to put more funds into higher education, I can assure you it will NOT be for Athletics.

All funding will have to be private. It's incredibly naive to think otherwise.

[BisonTeacher]

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Yep...that was a great game. Kstate was not the team they were last year. I meant the BCS bowl teams....this years BCS bowl teams. If you think we can compete in that every year I think you are sadly mistaken.

I am for a move if and when the big conferences break off from the rest of FBS. 2nd level of of college football is where we belong.

[MNLonghorn10]

Well that's all fine and well, but it also takes money to make money. We don't have it and we won't have it. Until the state realizes it needs to invest more into its universities, this is where we will be. And that's ok. We have success. We have a growing fan base (nation-wide). We are 10 years into this move up. Let's ride it out for awhile. Let's let the BCS/FBS figure out what it's going to do, and jump when the time is right. Forcing it now would be a big mistake. I'm here to support the university in whatever it decides to do and my actions back that up. Do I hope they plan for the future? You bet. But you must also enjoy where you're at as well.

Yea thats just the problem. Nodak has more money than it knows what to do with it, and the grounds for a national power is on its doorstep......and nothing will be done about it. how isn't this going to become a NW Missouri St?
i agree with the middle part. Itll have to be when the big 5 break off or sooner...if theres any window and NDSU misses it, then its toast.

[MNLonghorn10]

Yep...that was a great game. Kstate was not the team they were last year. I meant the BCS bowl teams....this years BCS bowl teams. If you think we can compete in that every year I think you are sadly mistaken.

I am for a move if and when the big conferences break off from the rest of FBS. 2nd level of of college football is where we belong.

So wtf's the big deal of going up NOW if youre fine with playing the same teams post BCS conference shake up?

[BisonTeacher]

So wtf's the big deal of going up NOW if youre fine with playing the same teams post BCS conference shake up?

Becasue there would hopefully be playoffs. Going now is to go into obscurity. Our season would be done right now. Until that shakeup happens...it makes no sense.

[ndsubison1]

How isn't national prestige NOT on the top of anybodys list?

Its preposterous to sit here and argue that staying FCS is what's best. Its a money driven sport now. 8 straight FCS championships don't add up to squat at the FBS level. Again, at what championship does it stop at when we're thinking "OK this team we're playing can barely bring 1000 fans to their biggest game..every game not involving NDSU is half emptied stadiums".

NDSU is far too good for FCS. The programs in this division are embarrassing outside of what, 3? unacceptable...but to some, thats the top of the mountain. Kudos i guess.

imo we are closer to fbs than fcs