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    Quote Originally Posted by WRSDBison View Post
    BS. I want 15-0
    If we're not totally destroyed by injuries in the coming weeks, you'll get it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaBisonFan View Post
    If we're not totally destroyed by injuries in the coming weeks, you'll get it.
    I suppose this is the point where we start whispering "15-0" to each other...

    I've been trying to keep it in my head, but I guess it's gonna come out sooner or later...
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBisonator View Post
    I suppose this is the point where we start whispering "15-0" to each other...

    I've been trying to keep it in my head, but I guess it's gonna come out sooner or later...
    Yep...it's here.

    We have the defensive consistency...and a ball possession offense. It's perfect in our conference, and perfect for a national title run in the FCS.

    We 'must' have homefield however. If not...we've got a problem.

    A juggernaut offensive opponent on the road would be the end of our run.

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    http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbt11.htm #41
    NDSU 71.75 Youngstown 59.97 plus three for Bison at home so Bison by 14.78
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    Completely unrelated to NDSU football but I found the schedule difficulty interesting especially considering what everyone says about Boise State.
    HOME ADVANTAGE= 2.55 RATING W L SCHEDL(RANK) VS top 10 | VS top 30 | ELO_CHESS | PREDICTOR
    5 Boise State A = 93.77 8 0 69.76( 49) 0 0 | 2 0 | 95.90 5 | 91.26 8
    6 Stanford A = 92.51 9 0 67.91( 73) 0 0 | 1 0 | 90.82 8 | 93.59 4

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    There's no way that I'll understand the numbers...(ask my high school math teachers)...

    ...but could someone tell me how accurate this system could possibly be?

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    CA, watch the Sagarin numbers vs. what Vegas puts out as lines and they are very similar. You will not find a more accurate predictor to my knowledge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JMB View Post
    Completely unrelated to NDSU football but I found the schedule difficulty interesting especially considering what everyone says about Boise State.
    HOME ADVANTAGE= 2.55 RATING W L SCHEDL(RANK) VS top 10 | VS top 30 | ELO_CHESS | PREDICTOR
    5 Boise State A = 93.77 8 0 69.76( 49) 0 0 | 2 0 | 95.90 5 | 91.26 8
    6 Stanford A = 92.51 9 0 67.91( 73) 0 0 | 1 0 | 90.82 8 | 93.59 4
    'The computers' are killing Stanford in the BCS because all they're allowed to consider is W/L and SOS. They're 7th in the computers but 2nd and 3rd in the human polls. But look at the Sagarin predictor: Stanford 4th. Unfortunately the humans that run the BCS don't allow 'the computers' to use that calcuation or any other calculation that accounts for margin of victory and as a result Sagarin's BCS calc (elo chess) places Stanford 8th. 'The computers' are not the problem, it's the ninnies running the BCS who are the problem.

    Of course Sagarin's predictor still makes Alabama #2 but, if the season ended today I'd have no interest in seeing a rematch for the national title. They already lost at home to #1 LSU they had their shot so as long as there's no playoff and it's just one game on a neutral field for all the marbles, I don't think a rematch makes sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bisonaudit View Post
    'The computers' are killing Stanford in the BCS because all they're allowed to consider is W/L and SOS. They're 7th in the computers but 2nd and 3rd in the human polls. But look at the Sagarin predictor: Stanford 4th. Unfortunately the humans that run the BCS don't allow 'the computers' to use that calcuation or any other calculation that accounts for margin of victory and as a result Sagarin's BCS calc (elo chess) places Stanford 8th. 'The computers' are not the problem, it's the ninnies running the BCS who are the problem.

    Of course Sagarin's predictory still makes Alabama #2 but, if the season ended today I'd have no interest in seeing a rematch for the national title. They already lost at home to #1 LSU they had their shot so as long as there's no playoff and it's just one game on a neutral field for all the marbles, I don't think a rematch makes sense.
    I hate the BCS system. Too much politics involved. However, I don't see anybody but LSU beating Alabama so if they had a playoff system I really think you would see LSU and Alabama in the championship. Their defenses are unreal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by westnodak93bison View Post
    CA, watch the Sagarin numbers vs. what Vegas puts out as lines and they are very similar. You will not find a more accurate predictor to my knowledge.
    I am no gambler but aren't Vegas lines based on getting equal number of betters on both sides of the line so they can cover and get action more than who is actually going to win/lose?

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