crooked refs

[perthbison]

The personal foul call I thought was crap as well.

What exactly did Austin do on that play?

[BisonCountry]

What exactly did Austin do on that play?

Watched the game today and from what i could tell a EWU player tackled him as he tried to step over the pile. Not sure if anything was said on the field, but from what i could tell the call was very suspect and a real back breaker imo as it forced us into 3rd and long and then eventually a blocked FG.

[perthbison]

Watched the game today and from what i could tell a EWU player tackled him as he tried to step over the pile. Not sure if anything was said on the field, but from what i could tell the call was very suspect and a real back breaker imo as it forced us into 3rd and long and then eventually a blocked FG.

Thanks for filling me in. I watched it live and didn't catch it. Another close one that went against us. Almost seemed like a pattern developing.

[IzzyFlexion]

Like several people have already stated, yeah we should have stopped them in regulation. That said, however...I just watched the last play again, and the camera shot of Brock after they upheld the call. I'm pretty sure I read his lips correctly, and I think Brock said it all.
"Are you fu(king kidding???!!!"

Oh man!!
That's unacceptable.
I'm sure Brock will be disciplined for being angry about a bad call. As many have stated, all Bison players, coaches, and fans are supposed be OK with this because the team didn't deserve to get to that point in the game anyway. In ther words, after the defensive collapse on the Eagles last series resulting in the tying score, Bohl should have walked to midfield during the pre-overtime coin toss and conceded the game.
I imagine the conversation going something like this:
"You know what you guys, we really have no business even going to overtime because we had so many opportunities to put you away during regulation. I'd hate to have the overtime outcome decided by a bad call because then we would appear to have sour grapes instead of a legitimate reason to question a call." "So, good job, game over....good luck next week, we got a plane to catch. Did you know our basketball team is playing UND tonight?"

[bri-dog]

Oh man!!
That's unacceptable.
I'm sure Brock will be disciplined for being angry about a bad call. As many have stated, all Bison players, coaches, and fans are supposed be OK with this because the team didn't deserve to get to that point in the game anyway. In ther words, after the defensive collapse on the Eagles last series resulting in the tying score, Bohl should have walked to midfield during the pre-overtime coin toss and conceded the game.
I imagine the conversation going something like this:
"You know what you guys, we really have no business even going to overtime because we had so many opportunities to put you away during regulation. I'd hate to have the overtime outcome decided by a bad call because then we would appear to have sour grapes instead of a legitimate reason to question a call." "So, good job, game over....good luck next week, we got a plane to catch. Did you know our basketball team is playing UND tonight?"

I don't think he was "angry" per se, he was just dazed, looked like he had a hard time believing they didn't overturn it. He didn't get in a ref's face or anything like that.

[IzzyFlexion]

I don't think he was "angry" per se, he was just dazed, looked like he had a hard time believing they didn't overturn it. He didn't get in a ref's face or anything like that.

I'll bet you a trillion dollars he was pissed. If he wasn't, he would have to have been unconscious or completely indifferent about the team's welfare. He didn't get into any referee's face because he's able to keep his composure. Admirable. I'm not afraid to admit that I may not have been so in control after that ending.

[bri-dog]

Yeah, I'm sure he was angry. I just meant he didn't yell at any ref in particular (from what I could tell). Just looked more like disbelief to me.

[HerdBot]

The fans ran onto the field when they made the call. The decision hadnt been made yet and they had to get them off the field. Should that have been a personal foul penalty? I thought a game can't end with a penalty. Or was it because it was after the play? Anyone know the rules.

[semobison]

Izzy your a piece of work! The reason Im Ok with the officiating, or lack there of is...ITS OVER AND I CANT DO A F@%^ING THING ABOUT IT, AND I REFUSE TO LET THE OFFICIALS RUIN THE REST OF MY WEEKEND! ...My apology for blowing up!

[IndyBison]

The fans ran onto the field when they made the call. The decision hadnt been made yet and they had to get them off the field. Should that have been a personal foul penalty? I thought a game can't end with a penalty. Or was it because it was after the play? Anyone know the rules.

There would not be a penalty for fans on the field. If coaches or players came on the field from the bench DURING a play, it's either unsportsmanlike conduct or illegal participation but not a personal foul. Personal foul penalties almost always involve personal contact between opposing players.

You are correct that the game can not end on an accepted penalty by either team. Most people think it only applies on a defensive penalty (again thanks to announcers) but it's actually any accepted penalty with a few exceptions (non-player or unsportsmanline fouls or fouls that carry a loss-of-down provision). It's usually only defensive penalties because the defense is not likely to accept a penalty if it will give the offense another play. But let's say the offense scores a TD as time expires but gets called for holding. The defense is going to accept the penalty because of the TD. The period is extended for an untimed down because it ended on a play with an accepted penalty. This applies to any period and not just the end of the game.

The NFL rules for extending periods are different as there are some situations that would extend a period in NCAA and HS that don't apply in the NFL.