2025 Sagarin Says

[THEsocalledfan]

I just need to ask...how is South Florida #60 right now after beating two ranked teams? I get that Sagarin needs some more data points probably, but this is quite an anomaly.

May be a case where the old data from last year is messing with the model. When he dumps the old data, the rankings improve.

[DePereBisonFan]

May be a case where the old data from last year is messing with the model. When he dumps the old data, the rankings improve.

Must be. Both teams they've beaten are still ranked ahead of them.

[gumby013]

Must be. Both teams they've beaten are still ranked ahead of them.

It will be until like week 6 before prior year data is removed.

[BisManBison]

NDSU 42, 41 last week
SDSU 59, 47
MSU 81, 80
TSU 84, 94
UM 88, 95

[Twentysix]

NDSU 42, 41 last week
SDSU 59, 47
MSU 81, 80
TSU 84, 94
UM 88, 95

If sac didn't pull away in the final minutes last night, sdsu would be way lower imo.

Mercyhurst had a real shot to win that game vs sac st, and turned a chance to win into multiple ints.

Sac st is very bad, it looks like their strategy will require several years to implement. Which is fairly normal in football.

Mercyhurst has a better offense than SDSU, lol I dont know how I can type that with a straight face. It was 35-28 in the 4th qtr(then mercyhurst threw 2 picks). Mercyhursts qb looks like hes 5'7.

Sdsu only managed 20 points vs sac st.

Imo, from what Ive seen this year, sdsu and msu are almost identical and suffer from the same offensive problems.

The sagarin gap between the two doesn't pass the eye test.

As for is ndsu worthy of a ranking of 42? Who knows. We've only played garbage the entire year. We look good, and our weakness is clearly run blocking at this point.

My guess at this point in the season is that tarelton is probably #1 or 2, ndsu is the other, and sdsu and msu are 3 and 4.

I don't think the griz can challenge ndsu with the state of their defensive backfield. So it looks to be a solidly 4 team race, and possibly tarelton is the best. Hard to say.

P.s. I do think tarelton coming out of no where is a great sign for the fcs. Though I sort of doubt tarelton is still fcs in 2030.

[Hammerhead]

Top 25 this week.

42	North Dakota State   	AA	75.25	MISSOURI VALLEY
59	South Dakota State   	AA	72.63	MISSOURI VALLEY
81	Montana State        	AA	68.21	BIG SKY
84	Tarleton State       	AA	66.79	WESTERN ATHLETIC
88	Montana              	AA	65.23	BIG SKY
103	 North Dakota         	AA	62.54	MISSOURI VALLEY
111	Austin Peay          	AA	61.48	WESTERN ATHLETIC
118	Southern Illinois    	AA	59.72	MISSOURI VALLEY
121	Idaho                	AA	59.01	BIG SKY
125	Sacramento State     	AA	58.23	BIG SKY
127	Illinois State       	AA	57.96	MEAC
128	UC Davis             	AA	57.96	BIG SKY
130	Youngstown State     	AA	57.57	MISSOURI VALLEY
132	SE Louisiana         	AA	57.43	SOUTHLAND
133	South Dakota         	AA	57.36	MISSOURI VALLEY
134	Northern Arizona     	AA	56.91	BIG SKY
135	Incarnate Word       	AA	56.47	SOUTHLAND
136	Villanova            	AA	56.36	COASTAL
138	Tennessee Tech       	AA	56.19	BIG SOUTH/OVC
140	Elon                 	AA	55.75	COASTAL
141	Chattanooga          	AA	55.75	SOUTHERN
143	 Harvard              	AA	55.29	IVY LEAGUE
145	Holy Cross           	AA	55.06	PATRIOT
146	Rhode Island         	AA	55.04	COASTAL
149	Stephen F. Austin    	AA	54.71	SOUTHLAND

[JMB]

Sagarin has an interesting webpage, he has a link to this article, which is interesting and a bit ahead of its time.

http://sagarin.com/sports/wham_bam.pdf