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[LITTLEGUYSINGREEN]

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Toledo is famous for being the hometown of Cpr. Klinger of MASH fame. It was/is the butt and punchline of many jokes during MASH's run. Suddenly, it's become this huge, magnificent media market that's garnering scrutiny from the gutted PAC. When the hell did this happen??? and, more importantly, why????

The states of Ohio and Michigan damn near went to war over Toledo.

[southcliffbison]

These schools don't even really need to be in a major media market, just adjacent to it these days. I mean Tarleton is in city of 21k a 100 miles from Dallas and it is in a major media market I guess. I've been to Dallas 10+ times and I never heard anyone even mention the place.

Starting to think if NDSU was 3 miles east and was Minnesota State, people would be saying we are in the Minneapolis market.

I agree with you. I imagine there's 6 lanes of traffic; all vehicles headed southwest toward Stephenville from the DFW metro area Saturday mornings on game day.

[southcliffbison]

The states of Ohio and Michigan damn near went to war over Toledo.

Thank you for that history tidbit; OK, I'll bite. Why would states go to war over Toledo? Please inform us.

[MWC]

These schools don't even really need to be in a major media market, just adjacent to it these days. I mean Tarleton is in city of 21k a 100 miles from Dallas and it is in a major media market I guess. I've been to Dallas 10+ times and I never heard anyone even mention the place.

Starting to think if NDSU was 3 miles east and was Minnesota State, people would be saying we are in the Minneapolis market.

I think the Tarleton, Sam Houston, Texas State plan blew up when TXST said no. I guess Sac State might be in the mix but other than being in a big city that pays no attention to them, they don't offer much. They have a nice airport in town..That helps. As far as the schools that have been publicly mentioned as candidates Tarleton has by far the best facilities.. Sac State has talked about spending money some day. Tarleton is spending huge money right now. They are going to be a force in CUSA soon. Or maybe the Belt.

[taper]

Thank you for that history tidbit; OK, I'll bite. Why would states go to war over Toledo? Please inform us.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toledo_War
The running joke is they fought over Toledo and Ohio lost.

[taper]

Quite likely, but I suspect their media deal won't be as lucrative as they hope.

That's the $64M question, right? As of today the PAC doesn't have a media deal for 2026 forward. Over $100M in exit fees and poaching penalties was just spent rebuilding the PAC. A $10M+ each deal makes that worthwhile. What if they don't get that? $6-7M is basically a wash with some level of buyer's regret. <$6M is a disaster. $0 is apocalyptic.
PAC currently has a 1 year contract with the CW(wtf?) for an undisclosed(probably terrible) amount. If PAC had a $10M media deal the AAC schools would have jumped. They didn't, so until they do, they don't. Also a huge sign ESPN isn't going to bid big. They could have made the AAC->PAC work, but they didn't.

[NDSUstudent]

Gonzaga playing in your gym every year is worth something.

I'm going to guess the PAC will sweeten the pot for Memphis a bit and Memphis will demand a deal that gives them a free out to the ACC or Big 12 if an offer comes. That is the PAC's real problem, the ACC is a timebomb and these AAC schools don't want to be committed to any league when it blows.

[Twentysix]

These schools don't even really need to be in a major media market, just adjacent to it these days. I mean Tarleton is in city of 21k a 100 miles from Dallas and it is in a major media market I guess. I've been to Dallas 10+ times and I never heard anyone even mention the place.

Starting to think if NDSU was 3 miles east and was Minnesota State, people would be saying we are in the Minneapolis market.

I live here and have never heard of it.

[HerdBot]

Gonzaga playing in your gym every year is worth something.

I'm going to guess the PAC will sweeten the pot for Memphis a bit and Memphis will demand a deal that gives them a free out to the ACC or Big 12 if an offer comes. That is the PAC's real problem, the ACC is a timebomb and these AAC schools don't want to be committed to any league when it blows.

Gonzaga is one of the best programs in the country since 2000. That's big money

NCAA tournament runner-up
2017, 2021
NCAA tournament Final Four
2017, 2021
NCAA tournament Elite Eight
1999, 2015, 2017, 2019, 2021, 2023
NCAA tournament Sweet Sixteen
1999, 2000, 2001, 2006, 2009, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2021, 2022, 2023, 2024
NCAA tournament round of 32
1999, 2000, 2001, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2021, 2022, 2023, 2024
NCAA tournament appearances
1995, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2021, 2022, 2023, 2024

[Twentysix]

Gonzaga is one of the best programs in the country since 2000. That's big money

NCAA tournament runner-up
2017, 2021
NCAA tournament Final Four
2017, 2021
NCAA tournament Elite Eight
1999, 2015, 2017, 2019, 2021, 2023
NCAA tournament Sweet Sixteen
1999, 2000, 2001, 2006, 2009, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2021, 2022, 2023, 2024
NCAA tournament round of 32
1999, 2000, 2001, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2021, 2022, 2023, 2024
NCAA tournament appearances
1995, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2021, 2022, 2023, 2024

And they are in the seattle vancouver nyc chicago LA miami media market. Lol

Jokes aside, I'm sure their basketball media deal is worth like 25x what any other team in the pac contributes for basketball. The question is, does that offset no football for the media deal?