A new and better FBS thread

[BigHorns]

Basically 0% chance the mwc ceases to exist.

While I tend to be a “never say never” type of person, I agree.

In MWC’s worst case doomsday scenario, they just look like PAC-2 did and rebuild from there. There is no incentive for whoever remains to shut down the conference and go Indy. They will absorb the entire Big Sky before that happens.

The remaining questions are:
- who stays and who goes? Won’t be known until the dust settles with PAC and AAC. The bigger conferences make their moves and then it filters down.

- what will MWC conference media payout be? Hard to say, will be less than before, but depends on who they add.

- Will NDSU join? I hope and think so. Our odds are better than they’ve ever been. We should hope for the Montanas and NDSU/SDSU joining as a block. It would be good for us to have some nearby rivals and take the top of FCS with us.

[jacksfan29!]

I would agree..I think the MW will carry on. However, at the moment it no longer requires 9 votes to dissolve. It is just 75 percent of the voting members. It would 6 right now. If AFA and UNLV leave it would be down to 4. Once those 4 collect their dough all bets are off.

Rumors as collating around Texas State, UTEP and SAC State as possible adds now. They will become voting members once they sign the dotted line..They certainly would not vote to dissolve a conference they just joined.

Explain why Texas State would leave the SBC for a rebuilt MWC? If what likely happens does, and Memphis and Tulane, possibly UTSA leave the AAC for the new PAC, Texas State will be on the phone calling the AAC. Some comments and "rumors" out there are hilarious. Like the MWC "personality" who said NMSU would be a great add and better than either Dakota school because they are "more valuable". The Las Cruces TV market is much smaller than Sioux Falls and Fargo, and both SDSU and NDSU have statewide audiences and NW and SW Minnesota. Of course, the same person thinks Tarleton State would be a great add along with Sam Houston. MWC will end up being CUSA 2.0 if they choose poorly this time.

[Twentysix]

Explain why Texas State would leave the SBC for a rebuilt MWC? If what likely happens does, and Memphis and Tulane, possibly UTSA leave the AAC for the new PAC, Texas State will be on the phone calling the AAC. Some comments and "rumors" out there are hilarious. Like the MWC "personality" who said NMSU would be a great add and better than either Dakota school because they are "more valuable". The Las Cruces TV market is much smaller than Sioux Falls and Fargo, and both SDSU and NDSU have statewide audiences and NW and SW Minnesota. Of course, the same person thinks Tarleton State would be a great add along with Sam Houston. MWC will end up being CUSA 2.0 if they choose poorly this time.

IME, mwc fans delusionally overvalue their conference. It's a great place for the xdsu's to go, but it's not a great option for anyone who is already fbs, except for the cusa schools.

This was already the case before the pac poached as well. Now its way worse.

Also, I think it is hard for many of them to believe that ndsu and sdsu have casual fan bases that are half a million people deep or more. And a lot of these other schools like shsu have a casual fan base of like 35,000-50,000. And most of their fan base is actually a Tamu or UT fan first and foremost.

[HerdBot]

I would point out the media markets for Sioux Falls, SD and Fargo, ND are bigger than Missoula or Bozeman. (yes, still nothing compared to major metro areas.....) Granted, all are state and/or land grant universities, so all 4 have wide appeal in their states.

Explain why Texas State would leave the SBC for a rebuilt MWC? If what likely happens does, and Memphis and Tulane, possibly UTSA leave the AAC for the new PAC, Texas State will be on the phone calling the AAC. Some comments and "rumors" out there are hilarious. Like the MWC "personality" who said NMSU would be a great add and better than either Dakota school because they are "more valuable". The Las Cruces TV market is much smaller than Sioux Falls and Fargo, and both SDSU and NDSU have statewide audiences and NW and SW Minnesota. Of course, the same person thinks Tarleton State would be a great add along with Sam Houston. MWC will end up being CUSA 2.0 if they choose poorly this time.

Everyone from the New York Times to Unnecessary Roughness think NDSU/SDSU would be the best additions. The only people who are opposed are the people Lakes has been trolling for a decade. Yeah add Tarlton (what state are they in?) when you can get 2 incredibly valuable programs.

[Twentysix]

Everyone from the New York Times to Unnecessary Roughness think NDSU/SDSU would be the best additions. The only people who are opposed are the people Lakes has been trolling for a decade. Yeah add Tarlton (what state are they in?) when you can get 2 incredibly valuable programs.

The people arguing for tarelton misguidedly think it gives them the dfw tv market.

What they dont realize is that smu and tcu don't even give you the dfw tv market.

[NI4NI]

Everyone from the New York Times to Unnecessary Roughness think NDSU/SDSU would be the best additions. The only people who are opposed are the people Lakes has been trolling for a decade. Yeah add Tarlton (what state are they in?) when you can get 2 incredibly valuable programs.

I forget...How many trips to Frisco has Tardton made?

[BigHorns]

Explain why Texas State would leave the SBC for a rebuilt MWC? If what likely happens does, and Memphis and Tulane, possibly UTSA leave the AAC for the new PAC, Texas State will be on the phone calling the AAC..

Precisely, except I expect AAC to be the one calling Texas St.

Texas St has built some momentum recently, and is now one of the more desirable players available in Texas. I am sure MWC fans (and possibly conference leaders) want them, but that seems like a no go, unless MWC throws crazy money at them and they can’t refuse.

Odds of Texas St accepting an offer
Texas St -> MWC : 5-10% odds
Texas St -> AAC : 50%-60% odds
Texas St -> PAC : 90% odds (IF offered)

If PAC continues to get rejected by schools like Memphis, Tulane, and UTSA, I do think there is a world where Texas St and UNLV could be the last two PAC adds to get to 8. If that is offered there is a strong chance they take it.

I also think Texas St and Georgia St could be prime targets for AAC slots due to their respective markets. Uncertain if they move, because the money between SBC and new schools in AAC is a little closer than some are aware. AAC fallback plan after SBC targets would be CUSA schools.

[NDSU92]

The people arguing for tarelton misguidedly think it gives them the dfw tv market.

What they dont realize is that smu and tcu don't even give you the dfw tv market.

Dude SMU doesn’t even give you the SMU market

[MWC]

Texas State does not have a large market at all. That was why the AAC passed on them last time. They are also only 60 miles from UTSA who certainly would not like to see them added.

[TAILG8R]

Texas State does not have a large market at all. That was why the AAC passed on them last time. They are also only 60 miles from UTSA who certainly would not like to see them added.

I’m curious how many casual football fans have seen NDSU play or know something about NDSU vs a school like UTSA?


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