A new and better FBS thread

[BigHorns]

If this pretend break off of the P4 happens there is now way the bowl game structure, qualifiers, etc stay the same.


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I don't see the bowls disappearing, theres too much money and sponsors involved.
What is happening thus far is the top bowls are getting converted into playoff games, but no bowls are disappearing.

If there is a split, I'd imagine the bowls will split too. The conferences likely keep their current bowl tie-ins for the most part, and P4 bowls go with the P4, and current G5 bowls would stay with the G5.

There is talk now of the PAC Rose Bowl slot moving over to B10. It won't disappear no matter the outcome.

[Professor Chaos]

I'll take Chip Kelly's idea to solve the out-of-control realignment whirlwind: https://www.si.com/college/2023/08/1...alignment-idea

In short - no conference affiliation for football in the P4. They're all like Notre Dame and build their own schedules with their own media contracts. Travel doesn't matter since they all charter anyway. There's no automatic qualifiers to the playoffs - only the best teams are selected (no G5 teams though - they'd have their own playoff/championship).

[bisonaudit]

I'll take Chip Kelly's idea to solve the out-of-control realignment whirlwind: https://www.si.com/college/2023/08/1...alignment-idea

In short - no conference affiliation for football in the P4. They're all like Notre Dame and build their own schedules with their own media contracts. Travel doesn't matter since they all charter anyway. There's no automatic qualifiers to the playoffs - only the best teams are selected (no G5 teams though - they'd have their own playoff/championship).

That does European football one better on the free market front.

[BigLakeBison]

I don't see the bowls disappearing, theres too much money and sponsors involved.
What is happening thus far is the top bowls are getting converted into playoff games, but no bowls are disappearing.

If there is a split, I'd imagine the bowls will split too. The conferences likely keep their current bowl tie-ins for the most part, and P4 bowls go with the P4, and current G5 bowls would stay with the G5.

There is talk now of the PAC Rose Bowl slot moving over to B10. It won't disappear no matter the outcome.

If there is a split, I just don't see how 38 bowl games would be able to be maintained. The G5 will struggle to make ends meet without CFP money and it's likely their media deals will be reduced (at least as a percentage of overall budget). They will not be able to in any way foot the bill for bowl games. We have heard that many of the bowls actually cost the teams money. They only make money for the bowl organizer (which in large part has included ESPN). We know how their finances are doing. You're probably right that bowls remain. I just don't see 38 remaining if a split actually happens.

[The_Sicatoka]

I'm starting to buy in to the "SMU to ACC" steam. SMU has money. They'd rather be a P than a G. They've reportedly said they'd forego a share for five years if they got an offer. They must've saved up all that Dickerson, James, Pony Express money from the 1980s.

SMU: At the forefront of NIL since 1982.

[IndyBison]

I don't see the bowls disappearing, theres too much money and sponsors involved.
What is happening thus far is the top bowls are getting converted into playoff games, but no bowls are disappearing.

If there is a split, I'd imagine the bowls will split too. The conferences likely keep their current bowl tie-ins for the most part, and P4 bowls go with the P4, and current G5 bowls would stay with the G5.

There is talk now of the PAC Rose Bowl slot moving over to B10. It won't disappear no matter the outcome.

I think they eventually go away. The more they are used for playoff games, the less value they have as a bowl game. Fans won't make a week of it because they could have to travel multiple weeks. The teams won't do all the festivities around the bowl. They will eventually go to hosted sites for playoffs. Then you'll have the 3rd and 4th place conference teams playing in the top bowl games, which will lose sponsors. Once the G5 playoff is started fewer bowls will be needed. They will still exist but at a much smaller scale.

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[TAILG8R]

I'm starting to buy in to the "SMU to ACC" steam. SMU has money. They'd rather be a P than a G. They've reportedly said they'd forego a share for five years if they got an offer. They must've saved up all that Dickerson, James, Pony Express money from the 1980s.

SMU: At the forefront of NIL since 1982.

Linked a The Athletic article in another thread, from that article talking about ACC expansion " SMU is willing to forgo any conference revenue distribution for five years, as sources have indicated"

EDIT: Also "ACC commissioner Jim Phillips is a proponent of adding the Bay Area schools and SMU, and the league initially considered adding up to seven Pac-12 schools last week after Oregon and Washington joined the Big Ten."

[scottietohottie]

What is Oregon thinking? Have they ever even beaten a big ten team?

[The_Sicatoka]

What is Oregon thinking? Have they ever even beaten a big ten team?

Just in the horseshoe less than two years ago ...
https://www.google.com/search?q=ohio...hrome&ie=UTF-8

[BigHorns]

I think they eventually go away. The more they are used for playoff games, the less value they have as a bowl game. Fans won't make a week of it because they could have to travel multiple weeks. The teams won't do all the festivities around the bowl. They will eventually go to hosted sites for playoffs. Then you'll have the 3rd and 4th place conference teams playing in the top bowl games, which will lose sponsors. Once the G5 playoff is started fewer bowls will be needed. They will still exist but at a much smaller scale.

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The cities and sponsors will do everything they can to preserve the bowls in some fashion, just too much money involved.
Benefits the schools and conferences as well, and fills TV time slots during the holidays.