A new and better FBS thread

[The_Sicatoka]

I mean if you’re going to take OSU, why not take WSU? Lol

Because MN and WA are alike in that their "state" schools are budget nightmares and they protect the franchise (the M or the W) at all costs.
SCSU's budget and enrollment nightmares seem manageable compared to what WasSU is facing.
WasSU's not even the best DI academics in Pullman-Moscow.

[The_Sicatoka]

Because the Big 16, Big 18 and SEC are in “watch the world burn” mode ...

Agree.
I bet all three will digest (do nothing) for a while and just watch FSU try to break the ACC GOR.
If that happens, the ACC will be quartered like the PAC was.

Crown jewel: North Carolina <- new TV market for B1G or SEC and growing population

[NDSU_grad]

If you're already fully funded, who are you going to give them to? 22 more football scholarships doesn't get you there.

If we are fully funded right right now that’s 191 scholarships. Adding 22 would put us above the minimum requirement. I don’t think the total aid piece would be a problem.

[The_Sicatoka]

If we are fully funded right right now that’s 191 scholarships. Adding 22 would put us above the minimum requirement. I don’t think the total aid piece would be a problem.

The new (proposed but expected) rule says for FBS: 16 sports, 90% of grants in each sport you play, 210 total grants, $6M in grants (and eliminates the 15k attendance rule).

In the sports NDSU plays they can offer 114.7 mens and 78 womens grants (per NCAA limits). That's 192.7 and 59.8% male. NDSU fans say they're fully funded and for this analysis we accept that as fact, 191 or 192 grants (we agree). And Knight says that's $5M in grants ($26k per).

16 sports. All good.
Fully funded at 90%. All good.

$6M?

For NDSU just add the 22 FBS grants to get to $6M (and 210), yes? Um, no. 22 grants for FBS means 22*$26k for about $575k. But that totals to still under $6M ($5.575M). And 22 FB makes for a 64% male grant dollars split. That'll get some notice (likely from WEquest that NDSU recently tried to shut down).

So, just add women's grants, right? Where? They're fully funded. To add women's grants NDSU'd have to add a women's sport (Equest?). So, $1M more on grants and need women's grant slots to fund (i.e. add a women's sport).

None of that is insurmountable (money and a plan), but there are more moving pieces than first glance would have one believe.


The Montana schools each only have 15 NCAA recognized sports.
The South Dakota schools are each under $5M in grant dollars.
Everyone'd have to come up with the $5M FBS entry fee (part of new rule).

[WhoRepsTheLurker]

Boy you sure are lobbying hard
Not saying NDSU gets in, but the only way you do is if the pig farmers are too stupid to see the future and pass
But please, carry on

Stopped by the MWC board just for yucks
Who’s the clueless dipshit who calls himself "mags"?
Smells like a desperate und fan
The stench was so bad it forced me to leave ...

The new (proposed but expected) rule says for FBS: 16 sports, 90% of grants in each sport you play, 210 total grants, $6M in grants (and eliminates the 15k attendance rule).

In the sports NDSU plays they can offer 114.7 mens and 78 womens grants (per NCAA limits). That's 191.7 and 59.8% male. NDSU fans say they're fully funded and for this analysis we accept that as fact, 191.7 grants (we agree). And Knight says that's $5M in grants ($26k per).

16 sports. All good.
Fully funded at 90%. All good.

$6M?

For NDSU just add the 22 FBS grants to get to $6M (and 210), yes? Um, no. 22 grants for FBS means 22*$26k for about $575k. But that totals to still under $6M ($5.575M). And 22 FB makes for a 64% male grant dollars split. That'll get some notice (likely from WEquest that NDSU recently tried to shut down).

So, just add women's grants, right? Where? They're fully funded. To add women's grants NDSU'd have to add a women's sport (Equest?). So, $1M more on grants and need women's grant slots to fund (i.e. add a women's sport).

None of that is insurmountable (money and a plan), but there are more moving pieces than first glance would have one believe.


The Montana schools each only have 15 NCAA recognized sports.
The South Dakota schools are each under $5M in grant dollars.
Everyone'd have to come up with the $5M FBS entry fee (part of new rule).

[MWC]

Boy you sure are lobbying hard
Not saying NDSU gets in, but the only way you do is if the pig farmers are too stupid to see the future and pass
But please, carry on

Stopped by the MWC board just for yucks
Who’s the clueless dipshit who calls himself "mags"?
Smells like a desperate und fan
The stench was so bad it forced me to leave ...

Mags is just a troll..I don't think he has any connection to NDSU or any MWC school. Lakesbison has been the only regular and he has been pleasant and friendly lately.

[skunkapekiller]

adding any female sport that no one watches is tough to do financially...especially if it involves horses.

[NDSU_grad]

The new (proposed but expected) rule says for FBS: 16 sports, 90% of grants in each sport you play, 210 total grants, $6M in grants (and eliminates the 15k attendance rule).

In the sports NDSU plays they can offer 114.7 mens and 78 womens grants (per NCAA limits). That's 192.7 and 59.8% male. NDSU fans say they're fully funded and for this analysis we accept that as fact, 191 or 192 grants (we agree). And Knight says that's $5M in grants ($26k per).

16 sports. All good.
Fully funded at 90%. All good.

$6M?

For NDSU just add the 22 FBS grants to get to $6M (and 210), yes? Um, no. 22 grants for FBS means 22*$26k for about $575k. But that totals to still under $6M ($5.575M). And 22 FB makes for a 64% male grant dollars split. That'll get some notice (likely from WEquest that NDSU recently tried to shut down).

So, just add women's grants, right? Where? They're fully funded. To add women's grants NDSU'd have to add a women's sport (Equest?). So, $1M more on grants and need women's grant slots to fund (i.e. add a women's sport).

None of that is insurmountable (money and a plan), but there are more moving pieces than first glance would have one believe.


The Montana schools each only have 15 NCAA recognized sports.
The South Dakota schools are each under $5M in grant dollars.
Everyone'd have to come up with the $5M FBS entry fee (part of new rule).

I get that, but you’re basically talking a half million dollars. Plus, we all know how these NCAA ‘requirements’ have worked in the past. This rule won’t be a determining factor at all in a move-up.

[skunkapekiller]

what's the link to the mwc board

[skunkapekiller]

i think you undershooting the half mil....your not adding in facilities, coaches salary,........