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Why would NDSU get half the interest, ticket sales and donations in CUSA than MVFC? NDSU isn't like most of the CUSA schools just like we aren't like most of the current MVFC schools. We have a more established fanbase than the majority of both conferences. This is exactly what I referenced before. The MVFC is no better than CUSA. I'll give you that it's no worse, but stop trying to convince everyone that CUSA is this massive step down from the MVFC. It's probably more accurate to describe it as a lateral move in many ways. Worst case scenario we see a similar ticket decline in CUSA as we are currently seeing in the MVFC. I personally believe that a move to any FBS conference would bump interest and ticket sales initially. The question is how long would the bump last and would we be able to compete at a high enough level in FBS to keep that bump long term. If we get $500K from CUSA media deal annually versus the $1 Million from our media deal that's a $500K reduction in revenue. If our current financials are so tight that $500K annually makes or breaks our move to FBS, than there is absolutely no reason why we would even be remotely considering a move to FBS. CAS mentioned that leadership has heard the message and doing everything they can to make it happen. I personally hope it is something higher than CUSA, just like you. I just also believe that an AAC or MWC that invites NDSU straight from FCS is likely going to have a much different makeup than they currently do and probably be much more comparable to CUSA in strength/stability than many here want to admit.

If you're going to shit on our media deal, at least get the facts right. We signed a 10 year, $21.9M deal in 2020. That's a whole lot more than $1M a year and more than double(almost triple) CUSA's. Those mid-week CUSA games are going to kill attendance. Plus we get statewide broadcast. CUSA gets CBS and ESPN "network", which will probably mean secondary cable or streaming. Don't expect many, if any, national main CBS or ESPN games.
It's simply not possible to think CUSA media is better than what we have now.

[BigLakeBison]

If you're going to shit on our media deal, at least get the facts right. We signed a 10 year, $21.9M deal in 2020. That's a whole lot more than $1M a year and more than double(almost triple) CUSA's. Those mid-week CUSA games are going to kill attendance. Plus we get statewide broadcast. CUSA gets CBS and ESPN "network", which will probably mean secondary cable or streaming. Don't expect many, if any, national main CBS or ESPN games.
It's simply not possible to think CUSA media is better than what we have now.

I didn’t shit on our media deal. I said it was really good for an FCS team but it’s not the MVFC deal. I apologize for not looking up the exact information. The MVFC isn’t superior to CUSA but you’re also someone who believes the Summit is catching up with the MVC.

The current CUSA media deal is not better than what we currently have. Haven’t argued that point. I also believe that in the case of CUSA we likely will have some leverage in that regard. CUSA has to realize that we’re not going to give up money on a media deal to join their conference. If they have interest in us (which I believe is more plausible than any other G5) there are negotiations that are going to be had and if their stance is take it or leave it than they know NDSU is walking away. With pretty much any other G5 conference were going to have way less leverage and likely will need to make numerous concessions to get in.

[NDSU92]

If you're going to shit on our media deal, at least get the facts right. We signed a 10 year, $21.9M deal in 2020. That's a whole lot more than $1M a year and more than double(almost triple) CUSA's. Those mid-week CUSA games are going to kill attendance. Plus we get statewide broadcast. CUSA gets CBS and ESPN "network", which will probably mean secondary cable or streaming. Don't expect many, if any, national main CBS or ESPN games.
It's simply not possible to think CUSA media is better than what we have now.

Yeah, there's no way we're joining CUSA without either major changes to their TV contract or major caveats that let us do our own thing with media. Taking that kind of revenue hit while increasing travel and expenses is a non-starter if there ever was one.

[BigHorns]

If you're going to shit on our media deal, at least get the facts right. We signed a 10 year, $21.9M deal in 2020. That's a whole lot more than $1M a year and more than double(almost triple) CUSA's. Those mid-week CUSA games are going to kill attendance. Plus we get statewide broadcast. CUSA gets CBS and ESPN "network", which will probably mean secondary cable or streaming. Don't expect many, if any, national main CBS or ESPN games.
It's simply not possible to think CUSA media is better than what we have now.

Exactly.

If anyone thinks the Bison are so special that NDSU vs FIU or SHSU Tuesday night on CBSSN (they don't get CBS primetime) is going to be must see TV, you are crazy. NDSU vs SDSU on ABC draws far more, like it or not. Even the semifinal games draw more than this will.

CUSA and its members are locked into a 5 year, 800k deal. There is not going to be some super special exemption made for NDSU, the conference doesn't have the power to do that. They are contractually locked in.

[BigLakeBison]

Exactly.

If anyone thinks the Bison are so special that NDSU vs FIU or SHSU Tuesday night on CBSSN (they don't get CBS primetime) is going to be must see TV, you are crazy. NDSU vs SDSU on ABC draws far more, like it or not. Even the semifinal games draw more than this will.

CUSA and its members are locked into a 5 year, 800k deal. There is not going to be some super special exemption made for NDSU, the conference doesn't have the power to do that. They are contractually locked in.

Thinking the Bison are so special that they are going to get invited to the AAC or MWC straight from the FCS is just as plausible as believing that we can negotiate a way to make a CUSA football only invite work for both sides.

[EC8CH]

Thinking the Bison are so special that they are going to get invited to the AAC or MWC straight from the FCS is just as plausible as believing that we can negotiate a way to make a CUSA football only invite work for both sides.

AAC.... Matter of time.

[BigLakeBison]

AAC.... Matter of time.

I really hope so.

[BigHorns]

Thinking the Bison are so special that they are going to get invited to the AAC or MWC straight from the FCS is just as plausible as believing that we can negotiate a way to make a CUSA football only invite work for both sides.

Chapodameous has declared AAC a done deal.

I think MWC or MAC remain our best options. MWC remains likely to lose one or more members in the near term.
JMU went straight to the SBC. You don't think we have more stature and pull than Kennesaw or Jacksonville St?

You really want to join a conference that is 80% low level FCS team quality? Games that would be over in the first 5 minutes. AND give up our Saturday games to be aired Tuesday and Wednesday on CBSSN? The MAC is far superior to this, and a reasonable conference we could join.

How many fans do you really think are going to be pumped up for Wednesday night games vs teams weaker than those we play now?

[EC8CH]

Chapodameous has declared AAC a done deal.

I think MWC or MAC remain our best options. MWC remains likely to lose one or more members in the near term.
JMU went straight to the SBC. You don't think we have more stature and pull than Kennesaw or Jacksonville St?

You really want to join a conference that is 80% low level FCS team quality? Games that would be over in the first 5 minutes. AND give up our Saturday games to be aired Tuesday and Wednesday on CBSSN? The MAC is far superior to this, and a reasonable conference we could join.

How many fans do you really think are going to be pumped up for Wednesday night games vs teams weaker than those we play now?

I'd give my left nut and both of Chapo's for a football only move to the AAC leaving all other regional fcs schools behind.

Then fill in the corners and give me 25k in the Fargodome. That's how you inject the opportunity for growth and energy into NDSU football for the next decade.

[BigLakeBison]

I'd give my left nut and both of Chapo's for a football only move to the AAC leaving all other regional fcs schools behind.

Then fill in the corners and give me 25k in the Fargodome. That's how you inject the opportunity for growth and energy into NDSU football for the next decade.

Absolutely would be as ideal a situation as NDSU and us fans could want.