2021 Verbal: Cole Payton

[Snowgoose]

The offense wasn't a major issue this year. This defense didn't perform as well as those defenses. 21 points would have been enough to win 7 of the previous 9 championships. And the other 2 were only 24 and 27. Hopefully the Bison can improve next year on the defensive side. This is not a team that can win shootouts on a regular basis.

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I agree with you as I was mainly posting facts about Cams season in comparison to Brock’s season. I do feel it should be an open competition but Cam hasn’t been bad. The defense was a major problem but the offense still could have been better as they could not get it done in big games when needed except for maybe Incarnate Word.

[SDbison]

I agree with you as I was mainly posting facts about Cams season in comparison to Brock’s season. I do feel it should be an open competition but Cam hasn't been bad. The defense was a major problem but the offense still could have been better as they could not get it done in big games when needed except for maybe Incarnate Word.

LOL, now I know how far Bison team expectations have dropped when fans describe our starting QB as "hasn't been bad". Is that just a tad above sorta good, at times better than OK, or just slightly better than mediocre?

[heffray]

LOL, now I know how far Bison team expectations have dropped when fans describe our starting QB as "hasn't been bad". Is that just a tad above sorta good, at times better than OK, or just slightly better than mediocre?

I’ll say it. Cam has been good. The benchmark is high and that’s also good. But with the team we had this year we needed better than just “good” at QB (in addition to better O scheme and playcalling). Is Cole the answer? Not sure but I’m willing to give it a chance.

[EC8CH]

Yep, for some reason I read right past the phrase “the championship”. My ellipsis dots were meant to imply he was missing from that game. So we were on the same band at different frequencies I guess.

I wonder how much a healthy Hunter might have impacted that outcome.

Meh.... defense being bad was biggest issue.

[semobison]

Meh.... defense being bad was biggest issue.

Yep, we won a few Natty’s with just good offenses. Great defense has been the consistent in our championship teams. This years defense was not championship quality.

That said I think our biggest issue on offense is our OC. It’s not a QB issue!

[HerdBot]

Then put him at RB

Good running backs are a dime a dozen. Elite running QBs are not

[KSBisonFan]

I'm not anti Cam but 1 of 12 for 5 yards in a semi-final game is not good and it wasn't because of the OC or oline IMO. He was flat out awful in throwing in that game and a couple other games this season weren't pretty either. Cam even admitted he wasn't good and they needed to run him more. I just think they need an open unbiased competition this spring and not just give it to Cam because he's been the starter. Best guy needs to be out there, if that's Cam great, if it's Cole or someone else then they should be the starter.

I agree with this part, but I can't erase the memory of the Zeb and Quincy experiments where coaches chose not to put the best player on the field.

[HerdBot]

Meh.... defense being bad was biggest issue.

While I totally agree, the best defense is a fresh one sitting on the sideline watching a 9 minute drive. At times, our offense wore down our defense

[KSBisonFan]

While I totally agree, the best defense is a fresh one sitting on the sideline watching a 9 minute drive. At times, our OC & DC wore down our defense

Fixed your post

[CAS4127]

Fixed your post

There are a myriad of things wrong with this team really. Entz, ML, TR and the new DC are gonna have to earn their paychecks the next couple of years, or not have one coming from NDSU if they don’t.