A new and better FBS thread

[BigLakeBison]

Raising $586 million, plus another $50 million for a practice facility suggests the opposite, they are pretty darn good at selling it.
Just because they aren't shouting fbs from the rooftops doesn't mean people aren't buying in.

Declining attendance and ticket sales says otherwise. There are lots of good things at NDSU. That doesn’t mean we aren’t allowed to criticize the things that aren’t so good.

[bisonaudit]

Declining attendance and ticket sales says otherwise. There are lots of good things at NDSU. That doesn’t mean we aren’t allowed to criticize the things that aren’t so good.

Haven’t you heard? People are bored and embarrassed.

[BigHorns]

Declining attendance and ticket sales says otherwise. There are lots of good things at NDSU. That doesn’t mean we aren’t allowed to criticize the things that aren’t so good.

Part of this may be people are still coming out of sheltering from the pandemic. Attendance has dropped across FBS as well.We might see some improvement as people get more comfortable with being in crowds again though.

I do think boredom of winning games too easily may also be a factor, but cusa wouldn't change that, and I don't think MAC would either.
People still turn out for SDSU and the "big" playoff games.

OOC in fbs we would have two home games, with one of them likely to be FCS. Most of the home G5 OOC games won't be against top 25 teams either.
Certainly hyping to the world we want to be FBS won't get droves of people eager to go see drake now.

In short, I don't think anything other than MWC will really move the attendance needle that much.

[BigLakeBison]

Part of this may be people are still coming out of sheltering from the pandemic. Attendance has dropped across FBS as well.We might see some improvement as people get more comfortable with being in crowds again though.

I do think boredom of winning games too easily may also be a factor, but cusa wouldn't change that, and I don't think MAC would either.
People still turn out for SDSU and the "big" playoff games.

OOC in fbs we would have two home games, with one of them likely to be FCS. Most of the home G5 OOC games won't be against top 25 teams either.
Certainly hyping to the world we want to be FBS won't get droves of people eager to go see drake now.

In short, I don't think anything other than MWC will really move the attendance needle that much.

You seem like a reasonable person. This isn’t pandemic related. It was happening prior. The “big” playoff games have been seeing declining attendance. The JMU game last year was great but it wasn’t a sellout. Apologizing for negligence on this issue isn’t going to do anything. Maybe you’re right and nothing outside of the MWC is going to help improve this. One thing I do know is that it sure as hell isn’t going to change doing the same thing that’s always been done.

[bisonaudit]

You seem like a reasonable person. This isn’t pandemic related. It was happening prior. The “big” playoff games have been seeing declining attendance. The JMU game last year was great but it wasn’t a sellout. Apologizing for negligence on this issue isn’t going to do anything. Maybe you’re right and nothing outside of the MWC is going to help improve this. One thing I do know is that it sure as hell isn’t going to change doing the same thing that’s always been done.

There’s beer and a t-shirt cannon.

[BigLakeBison]

There’s beer and a t-shirt cannon.

Yes there is.

[BigHorns]

You seem like a reasonable person. This isn’t pandemic related. It was happening prior. The “big” playoff games have been seeing declining attendance. The JMU game last year was great but it wasn’t a sellout. Apologizing for negligence on this issue isn’t going to do anything. Maybe you’re right and nothing outside of the MWC is going to help improve this. One thing I do know is that it sure as hell isn’t going to change doing the same thing that’s always been done.

I'm just not convinced there are many moves that can fix this, other than getting a MWC invite.

People are frustrated with our situation and want to feel like "something" can be done to change it. I'm not seeing any easy answers.
Declaring we are headed to FBS could worsen matters if no invite materializes. Independent with no CFP bid possibility is like program suicide.

We will almost certainly be FCS no matter what for the next couple seasons. Need to make the best of it and enjoy the championships. The changes in fbs aren't done, and eventually the pieces will shift to present an opening. It might take until 2024 or 2026, but that's ok.

[BigLakeBison]

I would trade the next 25 FCS championships for a chance at ONE CFP appearance 20 years from now if in that situation we were a legit contender.

And until then we’d have to settle with just one Arizona-type game every year. You know, the most exciting game we’ve had in 6 years.

Your sentiment I believe is shared by many. The reality is the FBS games are what gave the early run the energy. The championships certainly contributed but the energy started to build after the 2006 Gopher game and built from there. Obviously being competitive or winning those games was essential but it was huge in the fan excitement. The fact that we have gone 6 years with No FBS game really stunted fan enthusiasm.

[NDSU92]

Your sentiment I believe is shared by many. The reality is the FBS games are what gave the early run the energy. The championships certainly contributed but the energy started to build after the 2006 Gopher game and built from there. Obviously being competitive or winning those games was essential but it was huge in the fan excitement. The fact that we have gone 6 years with No FBS game really stunted fan enthusiasm.

And that’s just talking from the perspective of us fans.

I sincerely think the best benefits to the University are non-athletic. But from past experience that doesn’t seem to carry much currency here.

[BigHorns]

I would trade the next 25 FCS championships for a chance at ONE CFP appearance 20 years from now if in that situation we were a legit contender.

And until then we’d have to settle with just one Arizona-type game every year. You know, the most exciting game we’ve had in 6 years.

Yes, we might have to settle for one Arizona type game in G5 conferences also.

The typical OOC schedule is one home FCS and G5 game, one away G5 and P5.
Some of the P5's will also likely continue to avoid us, as they won't want a G5 loss anymore than they want a FCS loss.
P5 teams usually look for G5 punching bags for a home game, it's like their FCS warmup game.

The only games you can truly count on in FBS are the teams in your conference, and whatever Bowl tie ins the conference has.