A new and better FBS thread

[Grizzled]

Whoever offers a sufficiently good FB product and isn’t hobbled by another sport like hoops or hockey. So right now, that’s NDSU, SDSU, and Mo State

But let’s not get ahead of ourselves ...

The question of the day would seem to be is there anyone the PAC can take from G5 to improve their $$ deal, that Cal and Stanford would accept. My gut says no

SEC needs to start eating away at the ACC ...

ACC has a long term television contract in place that has lead to large exit fees and can only be changed if the ACC adds teams. They may need to do the poaching.

[The_Sicatoka]

... can only be changed if the ACC adds teams.

Not correct.
The ACC GOR says conference additions must sign on to the existing GOR.

https://csnbbs.com/thread-950353-pos...ml#pid18306837

[NDSU92]

Jumping to a conference like the current cusa or whatever conference just for an fbs label doesn’t add anything. In fact jumping at all until the dust settles makes no sense. NDSU will be perfectly fine and enticing once the P5 split is complete and the G5 starts to take shape. No doubt about it.

Why? In that scenario what changes between then and now that makes NDSU more appealing? We're still the same market with the same geographic issue and the same university.

[Professorbum]

I love how people take this as a given. If big changes happen and there is essentially 3 leagues, what makes you think that those left behind need to bring up anyone from the FCS? Let's say for example that the BIG, SEC and Big12 each have let's say 24 schools and they choose to go their own way.

The remaining 60 or so FBS schools still exist. That is certainly a large enough group to have them create their own conferences and playoff system. Why do they need to merge with the best of the FCS? They will be looking to maximize any TV revenue possibilities and adding more schools (with small tv markets) doesn't help them.

This is the whole point behind the "Get to the FBS" crowd. Waiting for the perfect situation isn't going to happen so as a University we need to do what we can get get an invite --- any invite. As long as we are part of the FBS when this happens we everything will work itself out. If this happens and we are still in the FCS, well then we are asking a lot of favors from others to help pull us up....

This. This. This. It cannot be clearer. A million times over. This.

[daddy daycare]

Why? In that scenario what changes between then and now that makes NDSU more appealing? We're still the same market with the same geographic issue and the same university.

Everything changes when the P5 splits. Nobody knows what the G5 will even look like. Perhaps the Montanas and SDSU wanna go then too? Any FBS conference that would even consider NDSU before the changes hit the fan will more than likely be raided and dust anyway. Too much uncertainty at the moment.

[WhoRepsTheLurker]

Everything changes when the P5 splits. Nobody knows what the G5 will even look like. Perhaps the Montanas and SDSU wanna go then too? Any FBS conference that would even consider NDSU before the changes hit the fan will more than likely be raided and dust anyway. Too much uncertainty at the moment.

Split likely happens within the P5, IMO, with the remnants pulling up what they want from the G5 to make the 2nd level playoff. I don’t think they’ll be as generous to the "top of the FCS" as some are hoping … I also think it will take a while to shake out

[NDSU92]

Split likely happens within the P5, IMO, with the remnants pulling up what they want from the G5 to make the 2nd level playoff. I don’t think they’ll be as generous to the "top of the FCS" as some are hoping … I also think it will take a while to shake out

Yep. Montana and SDSU and whoever else constitutes the "top of FCS" should figure their business out on their own. The reasoning that the "top of FCS" gets to just move up because they're competitive with G5 is dumb. They haven't been invited yet because they fit 0 needs of any G5 conference, which includes us. That doesn't change just because the P5 took their ball and walked.

Similar to the past ~5 years, we should be working to get to FBS asap and if whatever conference we end up in thinks SDSU and/or Montana fit their needs we can add them at that time. Or we can come out and proactively pair with one of them similar to our transition to FCS. Not trying to make a move because we don't want to speak out of turn with those schools or because the future is murky is ridiculous and hyper-beta. Most FCS schools would be happy (or at least completely understand) if we openly pushed to leave.

I've understood the past "don't rock the boat and go public with FBS intentions" stance. In this environment, that stance no longer makes sense. It's musical chairs time now.

[El_Chapo]

This. This. This. It cannot be clearer. A million times over. This.

exactly! wait until the Power Conferences STOP the FCS money games? then we screwed (as is all of fcs)

[daddy daycare]

Yep. Montana and SDSU and whoever else constitutes the "top of FCS" should figure their business out on their own. The reasoning that the "top of FCS" gets to just move up because they're competitive with G5 is dumb. They haven't been invited yet because they fit 0 needs of any G5 conference, which includes us. That doesn't change just because the P5 took their ball and walked.

Similar to the past ~5 years, we should be working to get to FBS asap and if whatever conference we end up in thinks SDSU and/or Montana fit their needs we can add them at that time. Or we can come out and proactively pair with one of them similar to our transition to FCS. Not trying to make a move because we don't want to speak out of turn with those schools or because the future is murky is ridiculous and hyper-beta. Most FCS schools would be happy (or at least completely understand) if we openly pushed to leave.

I've understood the past "don't rock the boat and go public with FBS intentions" stance. In this environment, that stance no longer makes sense. It's musical chairs time now.

OK. Name the FBS conference not named CUSA who's taking them on then. Desperation 101.

[NDSUguy]

OK. Name the FBS conference not named CUSA who's taking them on then. Desperation 101.

Right now the only G5 that may be considering/open to FCS members is the CUSA. While i'm not a huge fan of the schools in that conference, at the end of the day they can say that the are FBS and in the G5. Now, if a big change happens and there is a breakaway and the G5 starts to reorganized at least we'd be in the conversation. The G5 however would not need any more schools (as stated earlier). They can do whatever playoff system they like with their 60 or so teams. They will NOT need any FCS teams.

In this scenario, NDSU would then be at a point of begging to try to get into the G5. At that point, I hope we're not turned down to forever be in the FCS.