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    Quote Originally Posted by kevin View Post
    would be so much easier to just play the most gifted guy on the roster with the biggest calves.
    we need 200 yards passing to beat jmu. They will stack 8 in the box.
    NDSU TO FBS. HAVEN'T WE WON ENOUGH?

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    Quote Originally Posted by El_Chapo View Post
    we need 200 yards passing to beat jmu. They will stack 8 in the box.
    Klieman lost us the semifinal against JMU. The Bison were starting to gain momentum and he made the decision to attempt a 50 yard FG. The kick was missed and momentum swung back to JMU. Should have pooch punted and pinned them deep and let our defense get after them.

    I agree with Chapo, on this one. Their game plan won't be much different than the last semifinal. They will piss-pound the box and dare us to beat them with the pass. If we don't, we won't win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldmantutters View Post
    Klieman lost us the semifinal against JMU. The Bison were starting to gain momentum and he made the decision to attempt a 50 yard FG. The kick was missed and momentum swung back to JMU. Should have pooch punted and pinned them deep and let our defense get after them.

    I agree with Chapo, on this one. Their game plan won't be much different than the last semifinal. They will piss-pound the box and dare us to beat them with the pass. If we don't, we won't win.
    This is so very true! The long missed field goal was a mistake, but NDSU didn't make any offensive changes when the run clearly was being stuffed. Polisek was a genius against Iowa earlier that year, but thought any FCS team could be overpowered with our run game alone. Sound familiar? Many fans and Roehl think that way this year. The issue is the last four FCS teams are good enough to beat some pretty good FBS teams. Not going to win with some simple game plan. Need to mix in some short to medium passes including screen passes, short to medium passes to TE, short passes to FB, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldmantutters View Post
    Klieman lost us the semifinal against JMU. The Bison were starting to gain momentum and he made the decision to attempt a 50 yard FG. The kick was missed and momentum swung back to JMU. Should have pooch punted and pinned them deep and let our defense get after them.

    I agree with Chapo, on this one. Their game plan won't be much different than the last semifinal. They will piss-pound the box and dare us to beat them with the pass. If we don't, we won't win.
    By this time, in 2016, injuries had taken its toll..... no Nate Tanquay and no Nick De luca on defense. Can't remember if the offense had any key injuries, but whtever. The players that had beaten 13th ranked Iowa (at that time) weren't all the same players that lined up against JMU .

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    Quote Originally Posted by HerdBot View Post
    Correct.

    And at this point, Cam gives us the best chance. You really don't want to put in a true Freshman at the most important game in 2 years. The problem isn't the QB. It's the receivers who couldn't get open and dropped 4 balls.
    This is correct. Tic Tak boy needs to be way better then he has been for awhile now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SDbison View Post
    This is so very true! The long missed field goal was a mistake, but NDSU didn't make any offensive changes when the run clearly was being stuffed. Polisek was a genius against Iowa earlier that year, but thought any FCS team could be overpowered with our run game alone. Sound familiar? Many fans and Roehl think that way this year. The issue is the last four FCS teams are good enough to beat some pretty good FBS teams. Not going to win with some simple game plan. Need to mix in some short to medium passes including screen passes, short to medium passes to TE, short passes to FB, etc.
    You are right. I should've said Klieman and Polasek. Polasek didn't adapt his playcalling to the game. Just kept bashing that big ol' hard head against a brick wall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EC8CH View Post
    Hahaha. No judgement call. Klieman himself said not even a decision. Second Wentz was ready, you play him.

    Sick of double blind studies? Pat can correct himself and I'll probably stop bringing it up from time to time.
    You are one of the main reasons this board has gone to shit. You are a complete douche bag.


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    Quote Originally Posted by steelbison View Post
    You are one of the main reasons this board has gone to shit. You are a complete douche bag.


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    Default Re: 2021 Verbal: Cole Payton

    Quote Originally Posted by SDbison View Post
    This is so very true! The long missed field goal was a mistake, but NDSU didn't make any offensive changes when the run clearly was being stuffed. Polisek was a genius against Iowa earlier that year, but thought any FCS team could be overpowered with our run game alone. Sound familiar? Many fans and Roehl think that way this year. The issue is the last four FCS teams are good enough to beat some pretty good FBS teams. Not going to win with some simple game plan. Need to mix in some short to medium passes including screen passes, short to medium passes to TE, short passes to FB, etc.
    If QP doesn't throw the ball at least once in this game, then Roehl needs to be re-evaluated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevdock View Post
    If QP doesn't throw the ball at least once in this game, then Roehl needs to be re-evaluated.
    He needs that anyways....
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