Matt Entz seems VERY supportive of FBS jump

[B.Schlossman Fan Club]

Regarding the idea of joining the corpse of a MWC without Boise, CSU and San Diego State. Who would take Colorado state and San diego state?
I suppose if the XII takes Houston, Cincinnati and UCF, maybe the american takes 3 west coast teams in Boise CSU and SDSU? I think its possible they make and exception for Boise, but i just dont see it for CSU and SDSU, but who knows how big the ripple effects would be?

But lets say the MWC does lose those programs, Utah state, fresno wyoming etc are still vastly more interesting than the rest of our current conference combined. If you throw in the possibility of adding Montana, Montana state and SDSU, all of the sudden this is extremely exciting MWC.

the MAC is getting better. I would prefer the corpse of the MWC i think though, especially if we can get the montanas and SDSU. But a hell of a lot has to materialize to get ripples down that far.

I would be much happier about MAC if SDSU could come too. Then you'd at least have one other competent program in the conference. anyways... alot of what ifs flying around that need to get sorted out first

Boise St is not going to go to the American, they want a P5 invite. None of the MWC teams will leave unless they get invited to the P5 (PAC12)

[DakotaOkie]

Big 10 will never happen for small metropolis non AAU schools, never……. If the Big 12 gets pillaged and the need members to stay alive as a G5 conference then NDSU and SDSU are the perfect fit. MWC isn’t going to happen unless they form a central division with schools close to NDSU.

My opinion is Big 12 will survive as an entity but with much different memberships. Oklahoma State is p/o'd about OU leaving and is most certainly looking for another home despite the probability of becoming the big dog in the B12. I suspect there are several B12 schools (namely, WVa, IA State, Baylor, and K-State) doing the same with limited places to go in what will be the new P4. Kansas has zero chance of getting into a strong FB conference.
Problem is Big 12 won't get to stay in the Power conversation very long. I see the P5 becoming P4 with no more than 50-60 members (less shares to split the money pot). The Big 12 will be one of the remaining Division 1 conferences with the P4 giving themselves some other designation that makes it very clear they are top tier "above" simple Division 1 football. From there the long foreseen realignment of top level FCS and most G5 will occur along with low level FCS / D2. As others have stated in various manners, I agree and believe NDSU is on the cusp of its only likely shot at moving up in the college football pecking order. Of course, North Dakota being North Dakota, it is a longshot of getting financial support to make such a move.
This all of this realignment will come a playoff system in the new D1 football world that looks a lot like FCS and most crappy bowl games will go away.

[56BISON73]

Academics too for B1G no?


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I didnt want to pile too much on the plate.

[WhoRepsTheLurker]

As chair of the playoff expansion committee, Sankey had every opportunity to kick the G5 to the curb. It would have been easy, quick, and totally expected. Instead, he shocked the CFB world and did just the opposite, all while knowing that he was about to form the most powerful CFB conference in history.

Today, he continues to vehemently defend the 12-team, 6-conference championship model he helped create … 6 conference champs, not 4.

Although I understand the appeal, the continued suggestion of a P5/G5 split is delusional. Nobody in FBS wants that, and there will surely be enough playoff $$$ to appease everyone, even ACC powerhouse Wake Forest.

People keep tracking this outcome toward logic and fairness, but that’s not what it’s about at all. It’s entirely about $$$$, and Emmert is about to waive the white flag.

So it really comes down to one question: Are there any teams currently in FCS who really don’t belong here? The honest answer is yes, there is one, maybe 2 or 3. Whether they get a shot will come down – again – to one thing … $$$$$.

[IndyBison]

Fargo being the 2021 #114 Media Market is no slouch when compared to other FBS schools, two notable #113- Eugene OR and #115- Lansing MI

one could argue they would draw eyeballs in MN and all of ND probably closer to a top 100 Market in Reality of reach.

You realize those schools are more closely tied to Portland and Detroit markets since that's where their alumni live and the media in those markets cover those schools heavily. Yes, NDSU has a strong presence in Minneapolis but UM dominates the market and media coverage for obvious reasons.

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[GreenfieldBison]

You realize those schools are more closely tied to Portland and Detroit markets since that's where their alumni live and the media in those markets cover those schools heavily. Yes, NDSU has a strong presence in Minneapolis but UM dominates the market and media coverage for obvious reasons.

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NDSU gets zero media coverage down here as would be expected.


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[1998braves64]

NDSU gets zero media coverage down here as would be expected.


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I'd disagree with zero coverage. They're mentioned occasionally on kfan when there is some sort of newsworthy item. Not anything major though but not necessarily zero.

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[MankatoBison]

Boise St is not going to go to the American, they want a P5 invite. None of the MWC teams will leave unless they get invited to the P5 (PAC12)

The Money is better in the american. Boise has already stated they would prefer to be in the American right now. But they would definitely take XII>AAC

[MankatoBison]

Guys, B1G is not happening like ever. This isn't about B1G, SEC, ACC or PAC. It's about getting NDSU in the second tier. We're currently in tier 3 or 4 depending how you look at it.

YUP. 10 char

[SamsRams]

As chair of the playoff expansion committee, Sankey had every opportunity to kick the G5 to the curb. It would have been easy, quick, and totally expected. Instead, he shocked the CFB world and did just the opposite, all while knowing that he was about to form the most powerful CFB conference in history.

Today, he continues to vehemently defend the 12-team, 6-conference championship model he helped create … 6 conference champs, not 4.

Although I understand the appeal, the continued suggestion of a P5/G5 split is delusional. Nobody in FBS wants that, and there will surely be enough playoff $$$ to appease everyone, even ACC powerhouse Wake Forest.

People keep tracking this outcome toward logic and fairness, but that’s not what it’s about at all. It’s entirely about $$$$, and Emmert is about to waive the white flag.

So it really comes down to one question: Are there any teams currently in FCS who really don’t belong here? The honest answer is yes, there is one, maybe 2 or 3. Whether they get a shot will come down – again – to one thing … $$$$$.

Man I hope you are right. I really really do, but moves like this are done in the darkness and led to mislead people. Oklahoma had every chance to inform the Big12 and their long time conference rival Oklahoma state about their impending move but they never did. It’s my opinion Sankey just dangled the carrot to keep people off their trail. They have the most powerful conference in all of sports and I’m sure in his mind they deserve 6 bids to the playoffs.
Yes it’s about the money, which is why they don’t want the G5. Honest question, do you think the TV contract would be less if it was a playoff that didn’t involve the G5? I don’t and if it’s all about money like we all agree then you should understand that without the G5 in the playoff, they don’t have to share any money with them. The pie would be bigger and less mouths to feed. It’s just seems so blatantly obvious to me, but again I really hope I am wrong.