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    Gondola seating won't work in the FFD unless you are looking at the game through the floor.

    If you want to consider some other dumb ideas, perhaps we could just suspend a ginormous glass floor about 8 feet below the main roof trusses and sell spaces to lay down on the floor and watch the game looking down. Maybe instead of a glass floor, it is a floor with a bunch of setups similar to a massage table. You lay face down more comfortably and there's a small glass window at the head rest that gives you a perfect view of the entire field. An alternate would be some sort of zipline approach similarly providing views vertically straight down to the field.

    The only way to ACTUALLY get significantly more seating into the dome would require the roof to be removed (and raised) and more rows added at the top....at least with view lines that work. The original design has the stadium seating very steep, eliminating much of an opportunity to add decks above, etc. The options to make significant changes in seating are limited. The only other thing that I could think of is changing to bench seating, which gets more people in a row. Right now, that would probably add 3,000-5,000 seats without doing anything else. People won't go for that, though.

    If they remove the roof, they could get rid of the columns in the corner and get some more seating there as well, assuming that they increase the span...which would be likely. In theory, they could:

    1. Between seasons, place 4 new columns some distance at a 45 degree angle out from where they are now, temporarily projecting them through the existing roof structure of the occupied facility. This would be much more difficult than it sounds.

    2. Build a new outer shell of a new structure (including new roof with a larger span) without closing the existing dome. In order to keep the facility operational, they'd have to provide some ingress/egress tunnels from the existing building through the new construction zone that would be surrounding the structure. Assume at least 2 football seasons in this condition.

    3. Between seasons, disassemble the old roof out of the inside as well as lots of other structural elements. Perhaps once this is done, you have one season of football with the current field and concrete seating area floating inside of the larger shell structure.

    4. Between seasons, infill with new seating and concourses.

    For this to work, they could do a lot of the work prefabricated so that it can be made during the season and installed in the off season.
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    That's the school where the QB specializes in completing passes to the opposing team.
    They also specialize in "out-physicalling" opponents when they lose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by heffray View Post
    Yep, found it...

    http://www.bisonville.com/forum/show...10#post1397410

    He's the idiot who was trying to claim that their 2016 win isn't even in the top 10 of best in JMU sports history, when his own fanbase voted that it was actually THE top moment...
    Hahahaha. You speak for me then Heff, fuck this guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OrygunBison View Post
    Gondola seating won't work in the FFD unless you are looking at the game through the floor.

    If you want to consider some other dumb ideas, perhaps we could just suspend a ginormous glass floor about 8 feet below the main roof trusses and sell spaces to lay down on the floor and watch the game looking down. Maybe instead of a glass floor, it is a floor with a bunch of setups similar to a massage table. You lay face down more comfortably and there's a small glass window at the head rest that gives you a perfect view of the entire field. An alternate would be some sort of zipline approach similarly providing views vertically straight down to the field.

    The only way to ACTUALLY get significantly more seating into the dome would require the roof to be removed (and raised) and more rows added at the top....at least with view lines that work. The original design has the stadium seating very steep, eliminating much of an opportunity to add decks above, etc. The options to make significant changes in seating are limited. The only other thing that I could think of is changing to bench seating, which gets more people in a row. Right now, that would probably add 3,000-5,000 seats without doing anything else. People won't go for that, though.

    If they remove the roof, they could get rid of the columns in the corner and get some more seating there as well, assuming that they increase the span...which would be likely. In theory, they could:

    1. Between seasons, place 4 new columns some distance at a 45 degree angle out from where they are now, temporarily projecting them through the existing roof structure of the occupied facility. This would be much more difficult than it sounds.

    2. Build a new outer shell of a new structure (including new roof with a larger span) without closing the existing dome. In order to keep the facility operational, they'd have to provide some ingress/egress tunnels from the existing building through the new construction zone that would be surrounding the structure. Assume at least 2 football seasons in this condition.

    3. Between seasons, disassemble the old roof out of the inside as well as lots of other structural elements. Perhaps once this is done, you have one season of football with the current field and concrete seating area floating inside of the larger shell structure.

    4. Between seasons, infill with new seating and concourses.

    For this to work, they could do a lot of the work prefabricated so that it can be made during the season and installed in the off season.
    FYI Iowa has bench seating. Up until about 3 years ago there were at least 2-3 people per row who couldnt get there seats if they got their too late because there wasnt any room. (One good reason to always get the preinstalled stadium chairs) Then they enlarged the seat space while they were doing other renovations and lost seating capacity.

    Glad you posted as that gondola seating didnt look right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EC8CH View Post
    Hahahaha. You speak for me then Heff, fuck this guy.
    Yeah, and pretty sure he's the poster on the JMU board who started this thread:

    https://csnbbs.com/thread-912697.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by OrygunBison View Post
    Gondola seating won't work in the FFD unless you are looking at the game through the floor.

    If you want to consider some other dumb ideas, perhaps we could just suspend a ginormous glass floor about 8 feet below the main roof trusses and sell spaces to lay down on the floor and watch the game looking down. Maybe instead of a glass floor, it is a floor with a bunch of setups similar to a massage table. You lay face down more comfortably and there's a small glass window at the head rest that gives you a perfect view of the entire field. An alternate would be some sort of zipline approach similarly providing views vertically straight down to the field.

    The only way to ACTUALLY get significantly more seating into the dome would require the roof to be removed (and raised) and more rows added at the top....at least with view lines that work. The original design has the stadium seating very steep, eliminating much of an opportunity to add decks above, etc. The options to make significant changes in seating are limited. The only other thing that I could think of is changing to bench seating, which gets more people in a row. Right now, that would probably add 3,000-5,000 seats without doing anything else. People won't go for that, though.

    If they remove the roof, they could get rid of the columns in the corner and get some more seating there as well, assuming that they increase the span...which would be likely. In theory, they could:

    1. Between seasons, place 4 new columns some distance at a 45 degree angle out from where they are now, temporarily projecting them through the existing roof structure of the occupied facility. This would be much more difficult than it sounds.

    2. Build a new outer shell of a new structure (including new roof with a larger span) without closing the existing dome. In order to keep the facility operational, they'd have to provide some ingress/egress tunnels from the existing building through the new construction zone that would be surrounding the structure. Assume at least 2 football seasons in this condition.

    3. Between seasons, disassemble the old roof out of the inside as well as lots of other structural elements. Perhaps once this is done, you have one season of football with the current field and concrete seating area floating inside of the larger shell structure.

    4. Between seasons, infill with new seating and concourses.

    For this to work, they could do a lot of the work prefabricated so that it can be made during the season and installed in the off season.
    That's just too big of a project. We don't need that many more seats. We need more suites we can charge a shit load of money for. Im talking suites that connect to a bar with bathrooms and all the fancy amenities with an escalator or elevator

    The dome needs more convention space. If you look at all the white space on the top of the west side, they could make most of that space 2 level suites or 44 total connected to a club. Of course they would need to do an addition on the west side on a much larger scale.. That vs a huge revenue generator for the dome, would give more convention space, and would give fans a heated entrance, more restrooms and a larger concourse to relieve congestion while giving NDSU ans the dome significant revenue



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    Quote Originally Posted by NovaBison View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by HerdBot View Post
    We don't need that many more seats.
    ^^This. I have no idea what gondola seating is, but the point being that the dome would be fine for FBS and could be even better with additional investment. Is more than 20k capacity really necessary? Is it even realistic, TBH? There’s no need to build a new big stadium. It would be a waste of money

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhoRepsTheLurker View Post
    ^^This. I have no idea what gondola seating is, but the point being that the dome would be fine for FBS and could be even better with additional investment. Is more than 20k capacity really necessary? Is it even realistic, TBH? There’s no need to build a new big stadium. It would be a waste of money
    We could add way more seats but it will cost so much it would shut the dome down and not do much for the Fargodome itself. The dome needs convention space much more than more seating. Max configuration already holds 25k. That number is rarely needed. They need to spend the money on something that gives a good return on investment. That means suites and convention space

    19000 sold out is more than adequate. Its the ticket revenue that is important. Adding 44 suites will generate more money than 3000 seats
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