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    Quote Originally Posted by td577 View Post
    Here are my thoughts on this. No one is looking at the Sun Belt as leading the charge in anything. What they did by adding CCU, is immediately get a football program better than half of their existing teams and probably moved their conference past the MAC. They also got to 12 teams so they can add a championship game for additional revenue. The Big 12 has to expand and they are going to take a G5 school from somewhere. Sure they will probably settle on BYU, but they need to get to 12. If they go after a anyone in the MW or American, like Boise State or Cincinnati, it upsets those conferences balances. Not only do those conferences have to find a 12th school, they have to find someone who doesn't bring them down. C-USA is the only conference who can take a hit by losing one school. The American or MW are exponentially better conferences to be in then the Sun Belt. The list of potential replacements in those conferences would be very small. It wouldn't even include a CCU if they were available. NDSU has positioned itself to make a much larger jump then Georgia Southern, App State, and CCU combined. The competition now are the perennial powerhouses in FCS and those willing to make the financial commitment. When that courtship becomes a reality, it would be short of idiotic for the state to sit back and sit on its hands. While I think Bison boosters could become very generous, the state eventually would have to open its eyes to the economic benefit of playing FBS in a decent conference. Like Gene Taylor said, we will be no less than where we should be. The Sun Belt is no place we want to be.
    It looks like after January, Big 12 will only need 10 teams to have conference championship. NCAA is set to vote on dereguatlion of conferences in January 2016
    http://espn.go.com/college-football/....cTZMiTUy.dpuf

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    Quote Originally Posted by scbison91 View Post
    It looks like after January, Big 12 will only need 10 teams to have conference championship. NCAA is set to vote on dereguatlion of conferences in January 2016
    http://espn.go.com/college-football/....cTZMiTUy.dpuf
    Sounds like the P5 have their 65 and the fire marshal is closing the doors. Is BYU going to claim the final seat?
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    Quote Originally Posted by scbison91 View Post
    It looks like after January, Big 12 will only need 10 teams to have conference championship. NCAA is set to vote on dereguatlion of conferences in January 2016
    http://espn.go.com/college-football/....cTZMiTUy.dpuf
    Two things I don't think they need once there is a real playoff system: Conference championship games and bowl games.

    I don't like first round conference rematches in any other sport and that's what the conference championship games are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tony View Post
    Two things I can't understand once there are playoffs: Conference championship games and bowls.

    I don't like first round conference rematches in any other sport and that's what the conference championship games are.
    I dont understand how the Big 12 can only have 10 teams. Wouldnt they be the Big 10.1 ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by StL Bison Fan View Post
    I dont understand how the Big 12 can only have 10 teams. Wouldnt they be the Big 10.1 ?
    Using a base-8 numbering system to honor the old Big 8?

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    Quote Originally Posted by IBleedYellow View Post
    And we're getting left behind like Division 2 all over again.
    Seriously?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 56BISON73 View Post
    Seriously?
    It feels that way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IBleedYellow View Post
    It feels that way.

    http://lehighfootballnation.blogspot...adness-of.html
    If we concentrated on the really important stuff in life, there'd be a shortage of fishing poles"

    When you play football, you gotta like the taste of blood, And 50 percent of the time, it's your blood.

    You don't give out trophies for losing. Trophies for sucking. That's a communist idea. You don't get a trophy for losing. You get a piece of pizza and you shut up. Trophies for losing? What the hell happened to us?

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    Who could they be talking about?

    There are multiple other schools currently competing at the FCS level that do have the capability of competing and possible thriving at the FBS level. They already average attendance past the FBS two-year minimum rolling requirement, and have infrastructure in place that can support an average greater than 15,000 fans. Some even have committed to offering full cost of attendance towards all sports, and have budgeted this in their 2015 budgets.
    Read more at http://lehighfootballnation.blogspot...OZzVW19JxMp.99
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    Quote Originally Posted by StL Bison Fan View Post
    Who could they be talking about?

    There are multiple other schools currently competing at the FCS level that do have the capability of competing and possible thriving at the FBS level. They already average attendance past the FBS two-year minimum rolling requirement, and have infrastructure in place that can support an average greater than 15,000 fans. Some even have committed to offering full cost of attendance towards all sports, and have budgeted this in their 2015 budgets.
    Read more at http://lehighfootballnation.blogspot...OZzVW19JxMp.99
    There are 9 schools that meet the NCAA current attendance minimum over a two year rolling period.

    Montana
    James Madison
    NDSU
    Montana State
    Liberty
    Delaware
    Jacksonville State
    Southern University
    Yale

    Harvard hovers around 15k but missed by a couple in 2013. Them and Yale aren't candidates to move up anyways.

    CCU isn't even in the top 30. There are 20 fbs programs that average more per game than CCU does all season combined.

    There are 3 d2 and 1 d3 programs that draw better than CCU.

    I don't think that writer was talking about any one school in particular but being from Lehigh, they have seen a lot of those programs in the list of 9 who are actually meeting the standards.

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