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    Quote Originally Posted by IBleedYellow View Post
    And we're getting left behind like Division 2 all over again.
    And so is the rest of the MVFC, Big Sky, CAA, and 99% of the FCS. They are waiting are for the shake up to occur. I can't blame CC for wanting to get out of a pretty weak conference. Besides themselves and Liberty its pretty weak. The Sunbelt is still kind of weak but they are cherry picking some great fcs programs. Heck after 2 years, Appalachian and Georgia Southern are already on top
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bison"FANatic" View Post
    I thought that was El chapos job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IBleedYellow View Post
    And we're getting left behind like Division 2 all over again.
    I hope this isn't the case...
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    Quote Originally Posted by tjbison View Post
    CCU better hope the ncaa doesn't all of a sudden enforce attendance they need 7k more to reach the 15



    and yes I know that don't mean shit
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    Here are my thoughts on this. No one is looking at the Sun Belt as leading the charge in anything. What they did by adding CCU, is immediately get a football program better than half of their existing teams and probably moved their conference past the MAC. They also got to 12 teams so they can add a championship game for additional revenue. The Big 12 has to expand and they are going to take a G5 school from somewhere. Sure they will probably settle on BYU, but they need to get to 12. If they go after a anyone in the MW or American, like Boise State or Cincinnati, it upsets those conferences balances. Not only do those conferences have to find a 12th school, they have to find someone who doesn't bring them down. C-USA is the only conference who can take a hit by losing one school. The American or MW are exponentially better conferences to be in then the Sun Belt. The list of potential replacements in those conferences would be very small. It wouldn't even include a CCU if they were available. NDSU has positioned itself to make a much larger jump then Georgia Southern, App State, and CCU combined. The competition now are the perennial powerhouses in FCS and those willing to make the financial commitment. When that courtship becomes a reality, it would be short of idiotic for the state to sit back and sit on its hands. While I think Bison boosters could become very generous, the state eventually would have to open its eyes to the economic benefit of playing FBS in a decent conference. Like Gene Taylor said, we will be no less than where we should be. The Sun Belt is no place we want to be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by td577 View Post
    Here are my thoughts on this. No one is looking at the Sun Belt as leading the charge in anything. What they did by adding CCU, is immediately get a football program better than half of their existing teams and probably moved their conference past the MAC. They also got to 12 teams so they can add a championship game for additional revenue. The Big 12 has to expand and they are going to take a G5 school from somewhere. Sure they will probably settle on BYU, but they need to get to 12. If they go after a anyone in the MW or American, like Boise State or Cincinnati, it upsets those conferences balances. Not only do those conferences have to find a 12th school, they have to find someone who doesn't bring them down. C-USA is the only conference who can take a hit by losing one school. The American or MW are exponentially better conferences to be in then the Sun Belt. The list of potential replacements in those conferences would be very small. It wouldn't even include a CCU if they were available. NDSU has positioned itself to make a much larger jump then Georgia Southern, App State, and CCU combined. The competition now are the perennial powerhouses in FCS and those willing to make the financial commitment. When that courtship becomes a reality, it would be short of idiotic for the state to sit back and sit on its hands. While I think Bison boosters could become very generous, the state eventually would have to open its eyes to the economic benefit of playing FBS in a decent conference. Like Gene Taylor said, we will be no less than where we should be. The Sun Belt is no place we want to be.
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    Except for a random kick in the nutz.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bisonaudit View Post
    I wouldn't count on anything out of Bismarck.
    I am not. I am just saying an institutional culture shift would benefit them too. It is hard to see anything but darkness when you head is shoved up your ass. I can already see the argument. They will yell at the top of their lungs that our ND schools run autonomously. Yet, in reality that is the last thing they want. Someone needs to make it their idea and there is a slight chance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by td577 View Post
    I am not. I am just saying an institutional culture shift would benefit them too. It is hard to see anything but darkness when you head is shoved up your ass. I can already see the argument. They will yell at the top of their lungs that our ND schools run autonomously. Yet, in reality that is the last thing they want. Someone needs to make it their idea and there is a slight chance.
    They're not interested in having their own ideas.
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    I'll eat a bucket full of dog shit if we get any financial aid from the state to move FBS.....
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