Eh I don’t buy that. I think Jabril Cox is the best player in the FCS. If he says healthy, he is going to be starting on sundays.Quote:
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Eh I don’t buy that. I think Jabril Cox is the best player in the FCS. If he says healthy, he is going to be starting on sundays.Quote:
Originally Posted by CAS4127
How about best offensive and defensive players in FCS? Cuz I agree with that.Quote:
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I'm not dissing Anderson, he's a good player but he had 23 carries for 107 yards against us......... Our defense sucks and aside from Buss and Olson we have no speed.Quote:
Originally Posted by CAS4127
You guys are 2 times better defensively, and you scheme better and have elite athletes. I would guess Anderson gets half of his total he had against us. If he gets anywhere near a 100 it's in junk time when you guys are up 30+ and Klieman takes his foot off the gas.
He will also have less time to get there because of your long time consuming drives.
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I have no doubt that he is a good player and will get some yards. How do you think NDSU will game plan to limit the damage?Quote:
Originally Posted by CAS4127
Cox and Grimsley. Anderson is there biggest weapon. We’ll know where he is at all time until it doesn’t matter ... kinda like AGris suggests above.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vet70
And in a race with pads, I’d take Easton over him on a wager. Don’t think Cats fans realize how fast Stick is, but hope they get to see and appreciate it.
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I agree I would take Stick over him 40-60 yards. After Anderson gets up to speed he might make it close at 80-100.Quote:
Originally Posted by CAS4127
Stick definitely more explosive and shifty, it takes Anderson a few more steps to get up to speed and he's more straight line than shifty.
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Exactly as I see it, Mike.Quote:
Originally Posted by ALPHAGRIZ1
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Troy Anderson's high school PR in the 100 meters was 10.88 and 22.11 in the 200 meters......very fast......very, very fast.
Everyone keeps talking about Andersen's size and speed, but keeps forgetting we have the same thing with not only Easton Stick, but also Trey Lance. I believe the NDSU scout team will have their defense well prepared by Saturday.
This would appear to be some sort of Southern speed.Quote:
Originally Posted by IzzyFlexion
I’m not doubting his speed. We’ll need to adjust/figure out angles in order to not let him past those. He is a solid player/runner. One of the reasons Cats have been successful. Other teams can’t or didn’t do what I’m suggesting, and we need to put helmets on him to slow him down!!Quote:
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NDSU fans need to realize that cat fans are new to being above .500
They rarely watch real football and are not great judges of talent as you can see by the asinine statements on their board and here.
This isn't their fault its what happens every year when fools luck out and get into the playoffs at 20-24 when they don't deserve it in any way. Then they run their mouths trying to convince people they belong when deep down they know they don't.
This team isn't like Georgia Southern, cats have very limited talent but they run their mouths like Eastern, Coastal Carolina or Uni fans but the result is 99% rinse and repeat. They talk all this shit before the game then get get housed every year. They play in the Big Fluffy conference so the beating is gonna be worse than usual.
It's not their fault for they truly do not know.
Ignorance is bliss and Bozeman is loaded.
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No one is running 10.88 in a knee brace. I'm just not seeing this kid getting more than 50yds against us. He is big, 230ish, with nice speed for his size but we are at a different level athletically.Quote:
Originally Posted by IzzyFlexion
I've already said as much in this thread or another but I'll say it again. I like the Anderson(spelling?) kid a lot as a tough sob and talented football player but I don't see him being anywhere near as affective against the Bison D as he has been in other games.
After watching Choate's press conference I really like him a lot and think he's on the right track to build a solid program there. Unless of course we steal him away when Klieman leaves ;)
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Originally Posted by Christopher Moen
Yeah, I can tell you never ran track. A 10.88 100 and 22.11 200 is pretty darn fast for a white boy. Stick doesn't have that kind of speed and I doubt Lance does either.
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Quoted for truth.
What is fast for someone who is not a "white boy"?Quote:
Originally Posted by LITTLEGUYSINGREEN
FYI ND high school records for 100 and 200: 10.44 and 21.58. MT high school records: 10.66 and 21.06 He's fast but there are faster. I would say Stick is pretty close to this kid speedwise, but Stick runs much better with the ball. Oh, and 4 tenths of a second in 100 meters is forever, that's how far off he is from the ND 100 meter record.Quote:
Originally Posted by LITTLEGUYSINGREEN
I suppose we're going to high school stats.
Nothing I can find with Easton's track, if he ran but his Hudl shows a 4.66 40 which is kind of fast, no?
Trey Lance is a 4.6 flat.
Cat fans act like having a running QB is some sort of an unstoppable novelty. FYI, in the MVFC, almost every team has a QB that can run. The Bison win those games because they stop everything else and then limit the damage a running QB can inflict. Anderson will not score 40 points on his own.
Well he is kinda their Obi Wan Kenobi (a.k.a. their "only hope"). I don't think most of them would be able to look you in the eye and tell you he's unstoppable but they know that their only shot to make this a game is if he turns into a cross of Tim Tebow and Pat Mahomes for this game and plays unstoppable.Quote:
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Seriously, you're trying to compare his 100 time to the nd state record? A record that has stood for 14 years? Let's get real, I never said he had record speed, but his times are pretty darn good.
Let's use a number that is much more relevant to his overall speed. State qualifying for the ND state track meet in the 100 is 11.44 and for the 200 is 23.24. Those are very good times that are only achieved by a handful of kids in each division, year in and year out. On most years the winning time in each of these two events is slightly below qualifying time. In other words, in any given year, this Andersen kid would be in the running to win the nd state 100 and 200 titles. What would you call that? Average speed? Don't kid yourself, his times in the 100 and 200 are very good for this part of the country. I highly doubt that Stick has nd state championship speed in the 100 or 200. There is a huge difference in being fast on the football field and fast on the track. You can't compare the two.
I'm not saying he is a better QB than Stick, but to try to make an argument that Stick is just as fast as Andersen is just silly.
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10 and 21 flat.
Agreed Anderson is not even close to Mckinnon. Sorry Cat fans not trying to be a dick, but it's not even close. I only have a one game sample, but he does not play as fast as he runs the 100.Quote:
Originally Posted by ALPHAGRIZ1
Running track is not the same as running with pads. I've watched all three QBs run, and yes, Stick and Lance are also fast.Quote:
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ALPHAGRIZ1 "Bottom line is Jerrick McKinnon couldn't get it done in the Fargo Doom, and that Georgia Southern team is light years ahead of this cat team.Quote:
Originally Posted by MAKBison
McKinnon is a much more explosive player than Anderson ever will be."
If you look back at the stats McKinnon did get it done. NDSU used the same defensive plan they used the year before taking the dive and pitch. GSUs QB Jabo Shaw made the right calls but was neither quick to the line or fast enough once he made the line to make any yardage while McKinnon was.
That game was close. GSU made 2 defensive back to back 15 yard penalties and lost a fumble. Thats on GSU and you deserved the win.
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Yes, Stick and Lance are fast, but you said we have the same thing in both our QB's. No we don't. Not on the track we don't. Just want to clarify that.Quote:
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When why I talking about track? I said "size and speed," both of which Stick and Lance have.Quote:
Originally Posted by LITTLEGUYSINGREEN
Really looking forwards to an opponent whom i like and that we haven’t played in a while. 95 % of their fans were great to socialize and banter with in Bozeman for that playoff game back before the dynasty. Like the majority here are thinking, i expect the cats to hang around a quarter or so then we’ll start putting distance between us and it’ll likely be lopsided. But games don’t always go how us experts predict. This cats team might get a few lucky bounces like turnovers or unusually flat play by some of the bison. Not likely but I still remember DJ running towards the end zone with 35 yards of pasture in front with nary a defender to bother him and suddenly he drops the football as he continues to run. ISU blue jumps on the ball and instead of another seven it is a turnover. So though I expect a one sided game I’m still excited to watch cause you just never know
Lakes commenting about the Messingham coldstone thread on the kitties board is amusing considering they have no idea.
I only watched bits and pieces of their IW game as I found it uninteresting (other than IW’s 15 year old head coach wearing wayfarers in the overcast) so this assessment is totally amateur.
My take is this - there is so much focus on Troy Andersen and his ability to make plays offensively. Yes the guy is fast, high school track records and all that BS got folks slobbering on him. And sure, if he turns the corner untouched and has a straight line shot to the endzone there’s a strong likelihood that it’s going to result in a big play/TD. That’s great and all, but also not really uncommon. I’m sure you could take every opponent from our schedule and pick out a handful of guys that could do that same thing...that’s why they’re playing college football.
I think the much larger factor in this game is MSU’s defense. I just don’t think they’re really that good. I don’t think they’re going to present some magical scheme that will baffle the offense and I don’t think talent wise they are capable of hanging. They can’t stack the box because they aren’t good enough on the back end to defend Shep or our TE’s. They can’t not stack the box because we’ll bludgeon them with our running game.
When their head coach, who sounds like a swell fella, says “I’m excited to see where we stack up” that really speaks to their mindset. Montana State is just happy to be here.
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If I had to bet, I'd take the over on Andersen getting a 100 yards rushing. Hopefully, I'd lose that bet.
If he does it’ll be because our offense is sluggish and they get 2-3 more possessions than they would otherwiseQuote:
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Over 25 zenners!Quote:
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Yes, the game was extremely close. NDSU needed everything they had to win a close one!Quote:
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4th and 2 to go close.Quote:
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I approve of this message. Spot on.Quote:
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Plus helped out by personal foul penalty to keep the drive going. If ManBearPig wouldn't have lost his cool, there would have been no trip to Frisco that year.
No, I know you weren't. Just dug up those numbers and am impressed with them.Quote:
Originally Posted by CAS4127
If NDSU hadn’t roughed the kicker on the GSU punt the game would have closed out much earlier.Quote:
Originally Posted by LITTLEGUYSINGREEN
Mixed emotions with that- did make it one of the most exciting endings to watch.
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