Declining attendance and ticket sales says otherwise. There are lots of good things at NDSU. That doesn’t mean we aren’t allowed to criticize the things that aren’t so good.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigHorns
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Declining attendance and ticket sales says otherwise. There are lots of good things at NDSU. That doesn’t mean we aren’t allowed to criticize the things that aren’t so good.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigHorns
Haven’t you heard? People are bored and embarrassed.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigLakeBison
Part of this may be people are still coming out of sheltering from the pandemic. Attendance has dropped across FBS as well.We might see some improvement as people get more comfortable with being in crowds again though.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigLakeBison
I do think boredom of winning games too easily may also be a factor, but cusa wouldn't change that, and I don't think MAC would either.
People still turn out for SDSU and the "big" playoff games.
OOC in fbs we would have two home games, with one of them likely to be FCS. Most of the home G5 OOC games won't be against top 25 teams either.
Certainly hyping to the world we want to be FBS won't get droves of people eager to go see drake now.
In short, I don't think anything other than MWC will really move the attendance needle that much.
You seem like a reasonable person. This isn’t pandemic related. It was happening prior. The “big” playoff games have been seeing declining attendance. The JMU game last year was great but it wasn’t a sellout. Apologizing for negligence on this issue isn’t going to do anything. Maybe you’re right and nothing outside of the MWC is going to help improve this. One thing I do know is that it sure as hell isn’t going to change doing the same thing that’s always been done.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigHorns
There’s beer and a t-shirt cannon.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigLakeBison
Yes there is.Quote:
Originally Posted by bisonaudit
I'm just not convinced there are many moves that can fix this, other than getting a MWC invite.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigLakeBison
People are frustrated with our situation and want to feel like "something" can be done to change it. I'm not seeing any easy answers.
Declaring we are headed to FBS could worsen matters if no invite materializes. Independent with no CFP bid possibility is like program suicide.
We will almost certainly be FCS no matter what for the next couple seasons. Need to make the best of it and enjoy the championships. The changes in fbs aren't done, and eventually the pieces will shift to present an opening. It might take until 2024 or 2026, but that's ok.
Your sentiment I believe is shared by many. The reality is the FBS games are what gave the early run the energy. The championships certainly contributed but the energy started to build after the 2006 Gopher game and built from there. Obviously being competitive or winning those games was essential but it was huge in the fan excitement. The fact that we have gone 6 years with No FBS game really stunted fan enthusiasm.Quote:
Originally Posted by NDSU92
And that’s just talking from the perspective of us fans.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigLakeBison
I sincerely think the best benefits to the University are non-athletic. But from past experience that doesn’t seem to carry much currency here.
Yes, we might have to settle for one Arizona type game in G5 conferences also.Quote:
Originally Posted by NDSU92
The typical OOC schedule is one home FCS and G5 game, one away G5 and P5.
Some of the P5's will also likely continue to avoid us, as they won't want a G5 loss anymore than they want a FCS loss.
P5 teams usually look for G5 punching bags for a home game, it's like their FCS warmup game.
The only games you can truly count on in FBS are the teams in your conference, and whatever Bowl tie ins the conference has.