Re: A new and better FBS thread
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taper
If this particular scenario does happen and the PAC2 is OSU and WSU, is it only a philosophical question if they're still the PAC? A few pages back I posted a short history of failed conferences, at least one conference dropped FBS football in the first half of each decade since the FBS was created. Yes, conferences are hard to kill, which is why it only happens once a decade. But it absolutely does happen, and almost like clockwork.
Here’s a more interesting and more likely angle …
You’ve been asking for a split and I’ll agree this could trigger a split, but it won’t go down the way some hope
The P3 will survive by raiding the G5 and the G5 will survive by raiding lesser G5/FCS. If any conference dies, it will be CUSA. P3/G4 will consolidate as the 2nd level. No question, the PAC would choose to become G5-level conference before it chooses to die. But I think even that’s a stretch …
Here’s another prediction - NDSU will easily make the cut to the 2nd level but UND will not, and I’d say the majority of their fanbase agrees. D1 FCS is the perfect place for a hockey school in a state like ND, and I’d wager the SBOHE agrees too. Competing at the 2nd level of CFB is not going to be a cheap endeavor …
But we’ll see how it plays out. No offense to anyone intended. Just reading the tea leaves and being as frank as possible
Re: A new and better FBS thread
SBOHE has zero fucking say in what ndsu football goes or what division as we privately fund most of it
plus can you imagine any politician that would try & stop NDSU? they'd be run out of the state
Re: A new and better FBS thread
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El_Chapo
SBOHE has zero fucking say in what ndsu football goes or what division as we privately fund most of it
plus can you imagine any politician that would try & stop NDSU? they'd be run out of the state
Of course they aren't going to stop us. Taper as much as admitted he made it up when he said he had no proof
Re: A new and better FBS thread
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NDSU1980
Of course they aren't going to stop us. Taper as much as admitted he made it up when he said he had no proof
If you're trying to say the Board won't act against NDSU's interests you are completely divorced from reality. As for my theory of them saying no, it's just a theory and I've always said that. In a thread devoted to possible scenarios I consider it valid discussion. I have exactly as many sources for this as you do for MWC membership.
Re: A new and better FBS thread
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WhoRepsTheLurker
Here’s a more interesting and more likely angle …
You’ve been asking for a split and I’ll agree this could trigger a split, but it won’t go down the way some hope
The P3 will survive by raiding the G5 and the G5 will survive by raiding lesser G5/FCS. If any conference dies, it will be CUSA. P3/G4 will consolidate as the 2nd level. No question, the PAC would choose to become G5-level conference before it chooses to die. But I think even that’s a stretch …
Here’s another prediction - NDSU will easily make the cut to the 2nd level but UND will not, and I’d say the majority of their fanbase agrees. D1 FCS is the perfect place for a hockey school in a state like ND, and I’d wager the SBOHE agrees too. Competing at the 2nd level of CFB is not going to be a cheap endeavor …
But we’ll see how it plays out. No offense to anyone intended. Just reading the tea leaves and being as frank as possible
I agree with everything except the P3 raiding G5. If we do get a P3 instead of P5 it's because they want nothing to do with the peons(in their eyes). G5 and FCS are equally worthless to them. If a P3 becomes real it will raid P5 and probably kill PAC. More of a consolidation with losers stepping down than winners stepping up. At least IMHO. I completely agree UND and USD aren't ready for FBS and possibly never will be.
I also think it's important to split what [I/you/they] want to happen with what [I/you/they] think will happen. I'm pretty confident my dream scenario won't happen, but that won't stop me from advocating for it just in case.
Re: A new and better FBS thread
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taper
I agree with everything except the P3 raiding G5. If we do get a P3 instead of P5 it's because they want nothing to do with the peons(in their eyes). G5 and FCS are equally worthless to them. If a P3 becomes real it will raid P5 and probably kill PAC. More of a consolidation with losers stepping down than winners stepping up. At least IMHO. I completely agree UND and USD aren't ready for FBS and possibly never will be.
I also think it's important to split what [I/you/they] want to happen with what [I/you/they] think will happen. I'm pretty confident my dream scenario won't happen, but that won't stop me from advocating for it just in case.
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Re: A new and better FBS thread
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I miss Chubs
Linux guys…. [lol]
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Hey! I think you're the first to actually recognize my avatar. Props for that.
Re: A new and better FBS thread
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taper
I agree with everything except the P3 raiding G5. If we do get a P3 instead of P5 it's because they want nothing to do with the peons(in their eyes). G5 and FCS are equally worthless to them. If a P3 becomes real it will raid P5 and probably kill PAC. More of a consolidation with losers stepping down than winners stepping up. At least IMHO. I completely agree UND and USD aren't ready for FBS and possibly never will be.
I also think it's important to split what [I/you/they] want to happen with what [I/you/they] think will happen. I'm pretty confident my dream scenario won't happen, but that won't stop me from advocating for it just in case.
They will do whatever circumstance dictates in order to survive in FBS. Look at how quickly the PAC flipped its script on playoff expansion. And they see G5 as FBS and FCS as D2. I think I'm being pretty objective. I try not to be a homer when parsing the future landscape of FBS, but NDSU is much better positioned than you seem to want to admit
Re: A new and better FBS thread
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taper
G5 and FCS are equally worthless to them.
The way things are going, this is spot-on.
Re: A new and better FBS thread
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taper
Hey! I think you're the first to actually recognize my avatar. Props for that.
I recognized it. I just didn't acknowledge it. You more RedHat or Debian?
