-
Re: Welcome back HC Polasek
Quote:
Originally Posted by
heckler
like what? lol losing more kids? We got some kids from the portal last year?
If you were looking for someone to validate your opinion, just say that on the front end. I'm excited to see what Polasek can do. Also, how many kids has NDSU lost to the portal? Losing more kids? Have any NDSU players entered the transfer portal as a direct result of Polasek being hired?
-
Re: Welcome back HC Polasek
Quote:
Originally Posted by
BISONBRI53
But But he loves the program...
Would it be better if he hated or was indifferent to the program?
-
Re: Welcome back HC Polasek
Quote:
Originally Posted by
BISONBRI53
Why does everyone have a boner over this guy cuz he "knows" the portal and "knows" NIL? Since that stuff started he was in WY... How much did they do with any of that there besides losing players to the portal?
Quote:
Originally Posted by
KyleK
We get it, you aren’t a fan of Coach P.
I guess it’s your thing to always be negative about basically everything, but seriously give it a rest. A lot don’t like Lakes, but at least he has takes that aren’t f’n negative all the time.
I wasn’t the biggest fan of Entz, but it was after a few years. People can disagree, and that’s fine. I could have been completely wrong.
Can you at least give him a chance and see what he does? He said it yesterday, he’s not bring in anyone that would not fit the culture or in the locker room. Or have a take that isn’t just arguing with someone for the sake of argument.
I'm sorry I triggered you. I just don't see how this answers any questions that anyone has because NO ONE can justify the above about the portal but you are 100%, I am not excited about the hire just because he was here before and knows NDSU.
-
Re: Welcome back HC Polasek
Quote:
Originally Posted by
rutlandbison
If you were looking for someone to validate your opinion, just say that on the front end. I'm excited to see what Polasek can do. Also, how many kids has NDSU lost to the portal? Losing more kids? Have any NDSU players entered the transfer portal as a direct result of Polasek being hired?
Just trying to figure out what Polasek is going to do different than Entz in the portal because whatever it is didn't happen at Wyoming. Blame it on Bohl?
-
Re: Welcome back HC Polasek
Quote:
Originally Posted by
rutlandbison
Would it be better if he hated or was indifferent to the program?
Just wondering. That seems to be the thing on here and on the FB groups. He loves the program. He's intense. WHAT HAS HE DONE that says he will bring anything here besides a love of the program? He ran a shit offense here. He was a line coach in Iowa and an OC in WY who had a shitty offense. I dunno.
-
Re: Welcome back HC Polasek
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Professor Chaos
I think you're reading a bit much into his comments. As I recall he said they would utilize the portal in a way that wouldn't be detrimental to the current locker room but that the primary focus would be on recruiting high school players. He also said that he'd prefer to focus on portal guys who the coaching staff has a previous relationship with. Not sure it's going to be that drastic of a change but having a collective at his back and a good network of coaches, players, and recruits around the Midwest should help him.
Might be a good strategy. Perhaps a lot better than joining everyone else in chasing portal guys who will jump again.
Some articles out there saying P5 will take less high school kids, and focus on proven guys in the portal.
So, might be more HS talent available. We'd have to develop them and reload constantly, but it could work.
-
Re: Welcome back HC Polasek
Quote:
Originally Posted by
rutlandbison
Would it be better if he hated or was indifferent to the program?
That isn't his point. His point is that people are only justifying the hire based on him loving the program.
-
Re: Welcome back HC Polasek
Quote:
Originally Posted by
heckler
Just trying to figure out what Polasek is going to do different than Entz in the portal because whatever it is didn't happen at Wyoming. Blame it on Bohl?
Were the portal issues you speak of exclusively on Polasek? Do you have some intimate knowledge of the Wyoming football program that we don't?
-
Re: Welcome back HC Polasek
Quote:
Originally Posted by
heckler
That isn't his point. His point is that people are only justifying the hire based on him loving the program.
Having passion for the product is a huge part. He's here to sell the program to the kids. Passion helps. Is he going to be the OC too?
-
Re: Welcome back HC Polasek
Quote:
Originally Posted by
rutlandbison
Were the portal issues you speak of exclusively on Polasek? Do you have some intimate knowledge of the Wyoming football program that we don't?
Dude stop with the intimate knowledge. The point was how much more experience does he have than Entz? That is one of the things people are all happy about is that he is from FBS and know the portal and NIL stuff. It was WY. How much more of that did they deal with compared to us? Not saying it was on ANYONE there's fault that guys left.
-
Re: Welcome back HC Polasek
Quote:
Originally Posted by
heckler
I'm sorry I triggered you. I just don't see how this answers any questions that anyone has because NO ONE can justify the above about the portal but you are 100%, I am not excited about the hire just because he was here before and knows NDSU.
Sorry so disappoint, but you didn’t trigger me. Just hoped you had more to add.
Would you have preferred someone that had no experience at NDSU? Or just the wrong one with experience at NDSU got selected? Time will tell if it was the correct hire or not, but I’m sure as hell going to give him a chance.
-
Re: Welcome back HC Polasek
Quote:
Originally Posted by
BigHorns
Might be a good strategy. Perhaps a lot better than joining everyone else in chasing portal guys who will jump again.
Some articles out there saying P5 will take less high school kids, and focus on proven guys in the portal.
So, might be more HS talent available. We'd have to develop them and reload constantly, but it could work.
That would mean we would more likely be rostering younger, less physically developed and less "veteran" players.
Nope. Don't like it.
-
Re: Welcome back HC Polasek
Quote:
Originally Posted by
KyleK
Sorry so disappoint, but you didn’t trigger me. Just hoped you had more to add.
Would you have preferred someone that had no experience at NDSU? Or just the wrong one with experience at NDSU got selected? Time will tell if it was the correct hire or not, but I’m sure as hell going to give him a chance.
Not disappointed. I think we feel the same way, no one has anything more to add. I'm fine with experience at NDSU but that shouldn't be the ONLY qualifier but that seems to be the only thing anyone can come up with. I also understand that if he did an amazing job at Iowa or Wyoming he would have been hired at the P5 level and not a HC at FCS. Do I hope it works out? Of course. Do I like the hire? No. Was he the most qualified? Honestly I don't know who interviewed so maybe?
-
Re: Welcome back HC Polasek
I am interested to see what a change at head coach can bring. I in no way believe that TP is Nick Saban or Urban Meyer but I also do believe that his previous experience at NDSU as well as his other experiences elsewhere give him a perspective that could result in a renewed focus on what is at the heart of the NDSU program. Maybe the results on the field are similar to Entz and staff but I for one am excited for the change. I had become less enthused by the product on the field over the past two years and this is about as good of an outcome as I could have hoped for. Entz moves on of his own accord. Polasek comes back with a passion to keep the NDSU tradition alive. It at the very least breathes new life into it. He knows the expectations. Now it's on him to deliver results.
-
Re: Welcome back HC Polasek
other than deion sanders who's really an expert at the transfer portal at this point? i think everyone's still figuring it out.
-
Re: Welcome back HC Polasek
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Kevin
other than deion sanders who's really an expert at the transfer portal at this point? i think everyone's still figuring it out.
Norvel at Florida State.
We live down here now and he turned the program around by supplementing his recruiting class with portal kids. The place was a disaster when he was hired.
I’m not a fan of the portal, but unfortunately we are going to have live with it for now anyway.
-
Re: Welcome back HC Polasek
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Kevin
other than deion sanders who's really an expert at the transfer portal at this point? i think everyone's still figuring it out.
Lakes. Duh.
10c
-
Re: Welcome back HC Polasek
I believe Deions expertise in the portal is in his name only. That’s it. He doesn’t seem to be that great of a coach. Will they win more games next year? Honestly I doubt it. With that being said, I would like to think that Polasek would take some flyer shots at some big name guys. In his press conference he basically state that you won’t know if a kid is interested unless you engage with them first to determine if they’re is mutual interest. I didn’t really get that vibe from Entz. You never know unless you try.
-
Re: Welcome back HC Polasek
Quote:
Originally Posted by
23Bison
In his press conference he basically state that you won’t know if a kid is interested unless you engage with them first to determine if they’re is mutual interest. I didn’t really get that vibe from Entz. You never know unless you try.
I really was impressed with Polasek saying that as well. He sounds comfortable just asking. What is the worst that can happen? Sometimes there is an element of flattery when you get a call from someone who is interested in you and so a player just might express an interest back to them just to explore what possibilities there might be. Look how Taylor Swift's life changed when Travis Kelce put himself out there for her. Not that Polasek is Taylor Swift but the principle is the same.
-
Re: Welcome back HC Polasek
The portal should be used to fill gaps, not build a team. I'm not sure I've seen a coach at NDSU use it effectively yet. Richman is pretty much just a portal pinata, Entz isn't really any better. With the collective and other things it seems we have more resources at TP's disposal and it apperas he is ready to leverage them if needed. I will say having a passionate HC that believes in the program and can recruit lights out is a good weapon to have in the current enviroment.
-
Re: Welcome back HC Polasek
Quote:
Originally Posted by
GreenfieldBison
Lakes. Duh.
10c
Speaking of Lakes, he is tweeting some random stuff blaming Larsen and saying we will have new OC/DCs by Thursday.
-
Re: Welcome back HC Polasek
Quote:
Originally Posted by
tolnabison
Speaking of Lakes, he is tweeting some random stuff blaming Larsen and saying we will have new OC/DCs by Thursday.
My sense is no action regarding staff through tomorrow then all bets are off.
I wonder what job Lakes is in the running for...
-
Re: Welcome back HC Polasek
Quote:
Originally Posted by
tolnabison
Speaking of Lakes, he is tweeting some random stuff blaming Larsen and saying we will have new OC/DCs by Thursday.
Link???????
-
Re: Welcome back HC Polasek
Quote:
Originally Posted by
AKBison
Link???????
His twitter is private.
-
Re: Welcome back HC Polasek
Quote:
Originally Posted by
tolnabison
His twitter is private.
Imagine that's so the whole world can't call him an idiot.
-
Re: Welcome back HC Polasek
Quote:
Originally Posted by
mtoutfitter
Imagine that's so the whole world can't call him an idiot.
Give this guy a chance. He realizes some things need to be fixed. This team needs discipline and shore up the offense and defensive lines. Six false starts in one game. These issues have been happening with an old coach for the last two years.
-
Re: Welcome back HC Polasek
Quote:
Originally Posted by
04 Badger
Give this guy a chance. He realizes some things need to be fixed. This team needs discipline and shore up the offense and defensive lines. Six false starts in one game. These issues have been happening with an old coach for the last two years.
Was not talking about coach P. Replying to a comment about Lakes.
-
Re: Welcome back HC Polasek
This made me laugh.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
mtoutfitter
Imagine that's so the whole world can't call him an idiot.
-
Re: Welcome back HC Polasek
Quote:
Originally Posted by
NDSUstudent
The portal should be used to fill gaps, not build a team. I'm not sure I've seen a coach at NDSU use it effectively yet. Richman is pretty much just a portal pinata, Entz isn't really any better. With the collective and other things it seems we have more resources at TP's disposal and it apperas he is ready to leverage them if needed. I will say having a passionate HC that believes in the program and can recruit lights out is a good weapon to have in the current enviroment.
To me it sounds like you are saying 2 different things. The first part I agree with is it's a gap filler not to build a team. The second part doesn't seem to jive with that though, are you saying we should be adding more or fewer transfers? I don't know how many we've taken the last few years but only a couple that I can think of actually contributed. Maybe that's what you mean, try to get more of a ROI so to speak?
-
Re: Welcome back HC Polasek
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Bisonator98
To me it sounds like you are saying 2 different things. The first part I agree with is it's a gap filler not to build a team. The second part doesn't seem to jive with that though, are you saying we should be adding more or fewer transfers? I don't know how many we've taken the last few years but only a couple that I can think of actually contributed. Maybe that's what you mean, try to get more of a ROI so to speak?
Not exactly more but higher quality, bigger impact talent. Nobody on our level has our resources, need to use those resources more effectively to bring in talent. The portal cannot continue to be a one way talent drain.
-
Re: Welcome back HC Polasek
can someone explain to me how we went from steam rolling our way towards another national championship w/ a fully loaded team coming back for more in 2024 to "lets give this guy a chance" & "hope he gets a honeymoon period" because we had 6 pentalties in a semi-final game? our defense gave up 77 points in the last 2 games last season & 3 touchdowns in 6 plays this year when 1 stop wins us the game------the DC who gave up the 77 went on to DC in the big ten & the head coach in charge of said defense who beat polasek out with ZERO FBS expeirence is going to coach linebackers at USC------our offense has never been a problem over the last 5 years why did the game change when it came to him as the "next man up" is the elephant in the room that needs to be answered. i paid 5 freakin grand to watch that offense last year with a health luepke & a healthy gindorff not to mention cody freak mauch theres never been anything like it at SU! how do we go from that to "transfer portal u"?
-
Re: Welcome back HC Polasek
Quote:
Originally Posted by
NDSUstudent
Not exactly more but higher quality, bigger impact talent. Nobody on our level has our resources, need to use those resources more effectively to bring in talent. The portal cannot continue to be a one way talent drain.
For nearly everyone outside the P5, the portal is a net talent drain, that they try to backfill with others and develop. NFL could be considered a talent drain too. P5 is becoming NFL lite, and it bubbles down.
A few may get lucky, but generally speaking to break even you'd have to spend what those teams who are taking your players are spending. And if you could do that, shouldn't lose them to start with.
Where the real opportunity may lie is in picking up better high school players. Create a deeper pipeline of guys ready to be next man up.
-
Re: Welcome back HC Polasek
During his presser, Polacek referenced FBS experience at Iowa and Wyoming. Didn't he spend time at Northern Illinois, as well?
He didn't bring that up much. Did it not end well? I haven't looked in depth at that time period so don't know. Seems like time at a lower level FBS program would translate to our program.
Maybe a nothing burger with cheese, but just stood out to me.
-
Re: Welcome back HC Polasek
Quote:
Originally Posted by
KSBisonFan
During his presser, Polacek referenced FBS experience at Iowa and Wyoming. Didn't he spend time at Northern Illinois, as well?
He didn't bring that up much. Did it not end well? I haven't looked in depth at that time period so don't know. Seems like time at a lower level FBS program would translate to our program.
Maybe a nothing burger with cheese, but just stood out to me.
I noticed that as well but have no insight into it.
-
Re: Welcome back HC Polasek
Quote:
Originally Posted by
NDSUstudent
Not exactly more but higher quality, bigger impact talent. Nobody on our level has our resources, need to use those resources more effectively to bring in talent. The portal cannot continue to be a one way talent drain.
Yep agree with that, more ROI.
-
Re: Welcome back HC Polasek
Quote:
Originally Posted by
KSBisonFan
During his presser, Polacek referenced FBS experience at Iowa and Wyoming. Didn't he spend time at Northern Illinois, as well?
He didn't bring that up much. Did it not end well? I haven't looked in depth at that time period so don't know. Seems like time at a lower level FBS program would translate to our program.
Maybe a nothing burger with cheese, but just stood out to me.
He was only there a year so probably just didn't gain as much.
-
Re: Welcome back HC Polasek
Quote:
Originally Posted by
KSBisonFan
During his presser, Polacek referenced FBS experience at Iowa and Wyoming. Didn't he spend time at Northern Illinois, as well?
He didn't bring that up much. Did it not end well? I haven't looked in depth at that time period so don't know. Seems like time at a lower level FBS program would translate to our program.
Maybe a nothing burger with cheese, but just stood out to me.
Well he was only at N. Ill. for less than a full year as the TE/RB coach between his 1st 2 stints at NDSU when he came back as our OC. Mainly I think it wasn't brought up because he was talking about the experience he got in FBS AFTER he left NDSU or at least that's how I interpreted it.
-
Re: Welcome back HC Polasek
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Bisonator98
He was only there a year so probably just didn't gain as much.
Ok, thanks. That would make sense.
-
Re: Welcome back HC Polasek
If you didn't listen to the presser, Polasek spoke specifically of Cordell Volson as an example of the type of player he hopes to recruit. A developmental type player. That's a great sign. No more 5' 4" RB. No more 5' 11" DT. No more safeties "promoted" to LB. Yes, we'll have more players poached by the bigger schools after we've developed them, this is the new norm, get used to it. We will be a minor league college FB program.
-
Re: Welcome back HC Polasek
Really good article here. I continue to be very impressed with Coach P’s leadership.
https://ndsufoundation.com/magazine/2025/09/how-we-rise