Re: A new and better FBS thread
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Originally Posted by
NDSU92
$$$, alumni and fanbase size? We're already there, where have you been? Ask anybody in the CFB world, NDSU's football program is a high-performing G5 school by all accounts other than its geography. Is blowing the doors off a subdivision full of teachers' colleges and 6 small state flagship universities impressive? Screw Kansas' FB program, but I'd gladly switch places with any other FB program listed.
Let the "Normal" schools have their subdivision back. We're only here because we didn't successfully jump to FCS when we already belonged in the 70s/80s. It's NDSU's time to enter the main stage. It has been for a while now.
It is a shame that the 2013, 2017, 2018 and 2019 teams weren't able to play a full FBS schedule with multiple P5 opponents.
We're obviously ready for a G5 level move, but a lot of the P5 fanbases like Michigan are much larger. Even Kansas pulls in 25-30k fans each game. If they were winning those games, I bet it'd be much higher. We might have to expand/replace the fargodome to get an MWC invite. For the MAC it would be fine. Attendance and stadium size is one area where Montana has an edge on us.
Supposedly Montana previously had two FBS opportunities they turned down, MWC in 2006 and WAC in 2010.
https://herosports.com/fcs-podcast-jim-oday-bzbz/
Absolutely would not trade our success and NC's for Arizona's trainwreck of a program.
Yes, it would be nice to play more FBS games, but winning matters too.
Re: A new and better FBS thread
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Originally Posted by
BigHorns
We're obviously ready for a G5 level move, but a lot of the P5 fanbases like Michigan are much larger. Even Kansas pulls in 25-30k fans each game. If they were winning those games, I bet it'd be much higher. We might have to expand/replace the fargodome to get an MWC invite. For the MAC it would be fine. Attendance and stadium size is one area where Montana has an edge on us.
Supposedly Montana previously had two FBS opportunities they turned down, MWC in 2006 and WAC in 2010.
https://herosports.com/fcs-podcast-jim-oday-bzbz/
Absolutely would not trade our success and NC's for Arizona's trainwreck of a program.
Yes, it would be nice to play more FBS games, but winning matters too.
I don't know if I would trade our past success for Arizona's, but if you were to tell me that moving forward I got to pick between winning the FCS championship most years or being middle-bottom of a P5 conference most years... I'm taking P5. Not that P5 even matters or is in the conversation.
The good news is that there is a home for state flagship universities w/ a half billion dollar endowment. It's the G5, and it's where we belong.
Re: A new and better FBS thread
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ByeSonBusiness
You listed elite academic institutions. What do they have to do with anything?
Elite? meh, UofM was a commuter school 20 years ago. I'm not saying it's a bad school but I've worked with a lot of UofM graduates. They all had a nickname for me.....it was boss.
Re: A new and better FBS thread
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Gully
Elite? meh, UofM was a commuter school 20 years ago. I'm not saying it's a bad school but I've worked with a lot of UofM graduates. They all had a nickname for me.....it was boss.
Uh...no. The U of M was not a commuter school 20 years ago, nor has it ever been. It is an urban school, but that's not necessarily the same thing. It is a better school academically than most of the B1G. I've got a lot of issues with the U of M, but let's not pretend it isn't a superior school in most metrics--regardless of whether any of their grads have ever called you "boss."
Re: A new and better FBS thread
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Professorbum
Uh...no. The U of M was not a commuter school 20 years ago, nor has it ever been. It is an urban school, but that's not necessarily the same thing. It is a better school academically than most of the B1G. I've got a lot of issues with the U of M, but let's not pretend it isn't a superior school in most metrics--regardless of whether any of their grads have ever called you "boss."
^This is true. NDSU does pale in comparison, but its apples and oranges. I’ll stop there, ND … No worries. Peace out
UM TC doesn’t score way high in US News, but neither does NDSU. Pay no attention to the .coms … unless you want to buy something from them.
UM TC is one of the best research universities in the country*. They just suck at athletics ;)
*and NDSU ain’t too shabby either
Re: A new and better FBS thread
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Originally Posted by
NDSU92
$$$, alumni and fanbase size? We're already there, where have you been? Ask anybody in the CFB world, NDSU's football program is a high-performing G5 school by all accounts other than its geography. Is blowing the doors off a subdivision full of teachers' colleges and 6 small state flagship universities impressive? Screw Kansas' FB program, but I'd gladly switch places with any other FB program listed.
Let the "Normal" schools have their subdivision back. We're only here because we didn't successfully jump to FCS when we already belonged in the 70s/80s. It's NDSU's time to enter the main stage. It has been for a while now.
It is a shame that the 2013, 2017, 2018 and 2019 teams weren't able to play a full FBS schedule with multiple P5 opponents.
omg yes. that 2013 team and Carsons senior team would've easily won the Mountain West and been in a New Years Day Bowl Game or close to it
why are we wasting this dynasty run!!!!
Re: A new and better FBS thread
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El_Chapo
omg yes. that 2013 team and Carsons senior team would've easily won the Mountain West and been in a New Years Day Bowl Game or close to it
why are we wasting this dynasty run!!!!
We will never know how those seasons would have gone..
However, wouldn't you be wasting your time in the Mountain West too..?
You seem to think the conference offers you no competition at all..
Re: A new and better FBS thread
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Originally Posted by
MWC
We will never know how those seasons would have gone..
However, wouldn't you be wasting your time in the Mountain West too..?
You seem to think the conference offers you no competition at all..
hey... gotta bang a few 6s and 7s before you get with a 10 !
Re: A new and better FBS thread
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Originally Posted by
MWC
We will never know how those seasons would have gone..
However, wouldn't you be wasting your time in the Mountain West too..?
You seem to think the conference offers you no competition at all..
You ever been to Laramie? It's like the devils lake of Wyoming but instead of walleyes they have hippies. The meth is top notch. Only better stuff is in Rawlins.
Re: A new and better FBS thread
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Originally Posted by
MWC
We will never know how those seasons would have gone..
However, wouldn't you be wasting your time in the Mountain West too..?
You seem to think the conference offers you no competition at all..
El Chapo thinks a lot of things. Most of them conflict with each other. Fits of passion don't appear to be the foundation of a strong argument :)
"Mountain West sucks and is afraid of NDSU, let's go to the AAC!!"
--five minutes later--
"FBS!! Pump it up!! Let's leave pudville and go to the Mountain West!"
