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Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.
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unbison
The political section is closed so this may get deleted ..: but I’m gonna try and explain how that attitude actually makes you the sheep…. What each political party wants is us as Americans to busy fighting with each other over subtle differences which we could overcome if we would sit down and actually talk about it… all the while we are distracted clamoring about the other side they are free to work together on their moneygrab… while placating the masses with talk of liberals and conservatives… sorry you can hate all you want and flame on… but really stop and take a look at what is happening we spend years changing to only spend years changing things back trillions of dollars spent to spin the public and keep them engaged in shenigans …. It’s a awful shame
I actually see nothing political about this post and couldn't agree more.
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Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.
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Originally Posted by
oldmantutters
I actually see nothing political about this post and couldn't agree more.
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Nothing said in McFeely's article was either.
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Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.
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Originally Posted by
NDSU92
Ah yes, John Sigler. Funny how Yahoo Sports doesn't post a link to his bio, wonder why?
Oh yeah, because he's a random Saints fan that graduated from Southern Miss in 2015. Lol. Got your and my clicks, so I guess it worked. Nice job
It’s from a publication called the saints wire
You can’t be surprised he is a saints fan
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Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.
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Originally Posted by
EC8CH
Nothing said in McFeely's article was either.
Highlight where I said that it was, please.
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Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.
This is CBS Sports so more national but if true something happened in those just 2 weeks and especially the last game that soured the owner. Wentz was far from the only one who played poorly in that game.
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/c...qb-per-report/
We are hearing a lot of the same things from the local media and my friends' news feeds are ready for him to be gone. Their perception is he wasn't good.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...1300e9d34d.jpg
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Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.
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Originally Posted by
NDSU92
What are the local media saying? I'd trust local media in a small market where everyone is a Colts fan x1,000 more than the ESPN news factory where every thing is a story. Philly media was really no different in their desire to generate clicks, drive agendas, etc.
I have yet to read one negative thing out of anything from Indy.
The idea that the local small market media would be less driven by the desire for clicks seems wrong to me. I’d site opinions on this site about local media as evidence. That said, it’s pretty obvious that the national “insiders” at places like ESPN are shills for the league and transmission lines for whatever ownership/management wants the narrative to be most of the time. They’re interesting and sometimes insightful when it comes to the palace intrigue stuff, just be aware of who their sources are and what their motivations may be. Perhaps the local guys are better at cultivating locker room sources but again the reader should understand the perspective and motivations there as well.
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Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.
Didn't listen because Dakich annoys me.
https://www.1075thefan.com/blogs/dan...chise-history/
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Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.
It sure feels like the hate for Carson is disproportionate to his performance, but I do follow him closer than most NFL quarterbacks. I hope he lands somewhere and does well, but if not, there's 100 million reasons I think he will be just fine.
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Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.
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Originally Posted by
BattleBorn
It sure feels like the hate for Carson is disproportionate to his performance, but I do follow him closer than most NFL quarterbacks. I hope he lands somewhere and does well, but if not, there's 100 million reasons I think he will be just fine.
He's in the Kirk Cousins camp for hate-performance ratio
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Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.
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Originally Posted by
oldmantutters
Highlight where I said that it was, please.
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Lakes did, not you. Wasn't implying you did, was implying that's how this discussion was started on the comply false accusation that McFeely was attacking Wentz's religion.
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Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.
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Originally Posted by
EC8CH
Lakes did, not you. Wasn't implying you did, was implying that's how this discussion was started on the comply false accusation that McFeely was attacking Wentz's religion.
thats the basis for his hate for wentz though... and jealousy..
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Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.
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Originally Posted by
El_Chapo
thats the basis for his hate for wentz though... and jealousy..
Seriously? Based on what? It's way more likely that Wentz is McFeely's ideal of what a Christian should be like than that he hates Wentz for being Christian - as opposed to the "praying on a street corner" types.
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Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.
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Originally Posted by
tony
Seriously? Based on what? Wentz is probably McFeely's ideal of what a Christian should be like - as opposed to the "praying on a street corner" types.
based on his rantings on twitter and the past. he's shown his cards. He hates Wentz now (but was fellating him during the draft/at ndsu)
he even said he's fine with religious people getting exemptions & dying of C - on KFGO w gaptooth he said that about religion.
ANYWAYS I will end it there, no need to go down that rabbit hole.
>................. no one wants to talk about Irsay & Wentz having dinner in Nashville last weekend? why would Irsay do that if he was moving on from Wentz.
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Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.
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Originally Posted by
El_Chapo
thats the basis for his hate for wentz though... and jealousy..
And the basis for you claiming this is what exactly? I honestly have zero idea what McFeely's religion is in the first place.
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Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.
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Originally Posted by
El_Chapo
based on his rantings on twitter and the past. he's shown his cards. He hates Wentz now (but was fellating him during the draft/at ndsu)
he even said he's fine with religious people getting exemptions & dying of C - on KFGO w gaptooth he said that about religion.
ANYWAYS I will end it there, no need to go down that rabbit hole.
>................. no one wants to talk about Irsay & Wentz having dinner in Nashville last weekend? why would Irsay do that if he was moving on from Wentz.
Was Wentz Irsay's waiter or something?
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Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.
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Originally Posted by
EC8CH
And the basis for you claiming this is what exactly? I honestly have zero idea what McFeely's religion is in the first place.
He’s a faucian
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Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.
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Originally Posted by
EC8CH
Lakes did, not you. Wasn't implying you did, was implying that's how this discussion was started on the comply false accusation that McFeely was attacking Wentz's religion.
Fair enough, the quoting feature on here can get a bit tricky.
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Kevin
He’s a faucian
How would that be pronounced? Is it a "hard" C, like cheese? Or would it be a "soft" C, like sheep?
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Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.
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Originally Posted by
oldmantutters
Fair enough, the quoting feature on here can get a bit tricky.
How would that be pronounced? Is it a "hard" C, like cheese? Or would it be a "soft" C, like sheep?
Understood. Hard to convey intent of quoting sometimes.
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Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.
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Originally Posted by
EC8CH
And the basis for you claiming this is what exactly? I honestly have zero idea what McFeely's religion is in the first place.
"Lutheran". ELCA.
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Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.
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oldmantutters
He's in the Kirk Cousins camp for hate-performance ratio
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He is thought of very much like Cousins. It is odd that both are Christians though. How would one think of Cousins season this year if Cook doesn't fumble at the end to lose the Bengals game and the kicker doesn't miss a 37 yarder to beat the Cardinals (By the way the defense gave up some horrible plays in this game). They are easily in the playoffs and he is looked at a little differently. Both are like 10-15 rated Qbs in the league depending on the year but are generally bashed.
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Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.
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Originally Posted by
bisonaudit
The idea that the local small market media would be less driven by the desire for clicks seems wrong to me. I’d site opinions on this site about local media as evidence. That said, it’s pretty obvious that the national “insiders” at places like ESPN are shills for the league and transmission lines for whatever ownership/management wants the narrative to be most of the time. They’re interesting and sometimes insightful when it comes to the palace intrigue stuff, just be aware of who their sources are and what their motivations may be. Perhaps the local guys are better at cultivating locker room sources but again the reader should understand the perspective and motivations there as well.
My penchant for local media is more about reading articles from writers who are held more accountable by their readers, compared to ESPN where it's a ton of clickbait and gotcha articles.
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Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.
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oldmantutters
Fair enough, the quoting feature on here can get a bit tricky.
How would that be pronounced? Is it a "hard" C, like cheese? Or would it be a "soft" C, like sheep?
nah bro it's a hard c like cuck.
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Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.
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Originally Posted by
unbison
It’s from a publication called the saints wire
You can’t be surprised he is a saints fan
My point wasn't about the fact that he was a Saints fan, it's about his lack of NFL knowledge, access, research, etc. Why put any stock into a clickbait article? It would be no different than any of us writing an article about it lol
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Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.
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Originally Posted by
El_Chapo
based on his rantings on twitter and the past. he's shown his cards. He hates Wentz now (but was fellating him during the draft/at ndsu)
he even said he's fine with religious people getting exemptions & dying of C - on KFGO w gaptooth he said that about religion.
ANYWAYS I will end it there, no need to go down that rabbit hole.
>................. no one wants to talk about Irsay & Wentz having dinner in Nashville last weekend? why would Irsay do that if he was moving on from Wentz.
Sounds like freedom to me.
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Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.
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NDSU92
My penchant for local media is more about reading articles from writers who are held more accountable by their readers, compared to ESPN where it's a ton of clickbait and gotcha articles.
So how does that square with thinking the local Philly media are garbage then? there’s a ton of competition and everyone is an eagles fan. They should be responsive to their readers.
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Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.
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Kevin
nah bro it's a hard c like cuck.
Oh, look at Edgy McEdgeLord over here! :)
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Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.
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El_Chapo
you know that's why mcfooly hates him.
Havent read the most recent article, but when he was on Hot Mic in the early fall, Mcfooley was practically foaming at the mouth regarding wentz' vax status, and Mcfeely EXCLUSIVELY blamed it on Wentz's Christian faith, without any evidence whatsoever.
I think his exact quote was "oH, i'm carson wentz and i'm not gonna get the vax because I'm a cHrIsTiAn and gOd wIlL kEeP mE sAfE!!!"
To pretend that McFeeley has even a neutral stance on average bible believing Christians is deeply misguided. He obviously lets it affect his opinion of people and it seeps through everything he does, clear as day. McFooley very clearly delights in the schadenfreude for anyone who dares to disagree with him on quite literally anything, which makes it very fun to read when he agrees with you and very not fun when you dont. But he pretty obviously lied about Wentz in that Hot Mic interview, and gleefully dragged his faith through the mud in the process.
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Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.
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Minimum8Pete
Havent read the most recent article, but when he was on Hot Mic in the early fall, the hatred was oozing from every poor for wentz,regarding the vax status, and Mcfeely EXCLUSIVELY blamed it on Wentz's Christian faith, which by the way, has nothing to do with whether or not Wentz took the vax, its just what McFeely blamed it on.
I think his exact quote was "oH, i'm carson wentz and i'm not gonna get the vax because I'm a cHrIsTiAn and gOd wIlL kEeP mE sAfE!!!"
To pretend that McFeeley has even a neutral stance on average bible believing Christians is deeply misguided. He obviously lets it affect his opinion of people and it seeps through everything he does, clear as day. McFooley very clearly has delights in the schadenfreude for anyone who dares to disagree with him on quite literally anything, which makes it very fun to read when he agrees with you and very not fun when you dont. But he pretty obviously lied about Wentz in that Hot Mic interview, and specifically dragged his faith through the mud, with glee
you did this better than me. thank you.
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Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.
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bisonaudit
So how does that square with thinking the local Philly media are garbage then? there’s a ton of competition and everyone is an eagles fan. They should be responsive to their readers.
I've been to philly four times in the past five years. Hardly everyone is an eagles fan, lots of NY fans, and transplants from other cities. Very different from Indianapolis.
Even then, just from interactions at tailgating I'd say at least a quarter of eagles fans don't even like the team they root for. Place is Toxic with a capital T.
For instance, imagine Indy media reacting the way Philly media did at the end of Carson's career. Wouldn't imagine it for a second
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Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.
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Originally Posted by
Minimum8Pete
Havent read the most recent article, but when he was on Hot Mic in the early fall, Mcfooley was practically foaming at the mouth regarding wentz' vax status, and Mcfeely EXCLUSIVELY blamed it on Wentz's Christian faith, without any evidence whatsoever.
I think his exact quote was "oH, i'm carson wentz and i'm not gonna get the vax because I'm a cHrIsTiAn and gOd wIlL kEeP mE sAfE!!!"
To pretend that McFeeley has even a neutral stance on average bible believing Christians is deeply misguided. He obviously lets it affect his opinion of people and it seeps through everything he does, clear as day. McFooley very clearly delights in the schadenfreude for anyone who dares to disagree with him on quite literally anything, which makes it very fun to read when he agrees with you and very not fun when you dont. But he pretty obviously lied about Wentz in that Hot Mic interview, and gleefully dragged his faith through the mud in the process.
Perhaps it isn’t that McFeely is anti Christian as he’s against people using their faith as an excuse to do things that aren’t actually Christian.
“The only Christian denominations who cite a theological reason for opposing vaccines are the Dutch Reformed Church and Church of Christ, Scientist, according to Vanderbilt”
https://amp.dispatch.com/amp/8271710002
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Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.
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Originally Posted by
NDSU92
I've been to philly four times in the past five years. Hardly everyone is an eagles fan, lots of NY fans, and transplants from other cities. Very different from Indianapolis.
Even then, just from interactions at tailgating I'd say at least a quarter of eagles fans don't even like the team they root for. Place is Toxic with a capital T.
So, it’s not so much that you want the media to be responsive to their market, you want them to be responsive to you?
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Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.
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Originally Posted by
Minimum8Pete
Havent read the most recent article, but when he was on Hot Mic in the early fall, Mcfooley was practically foaming at the mouth regarding wentz' vax status, and Mcfeely EXCLUSIVELY blamed it on Wentz's Christian faith, without any evidence whatsoever.
I think his exact quote was "oH, i'm carson wentz and i'm not gonna get the vax because I'm a cHrIsTiAn and gOd wIlL kEeP mE sAfE!!!"
To pretend that McFeeley has even a neutral stance on average bible believing Christians is deeply misguided. He obviously lets it affect his opinion of people and it seeps through everything he does, clear as day. McFooley very clearly delights in the schadenfreude for anyone who dares to disagree with him on quite literally anything, which makes it very fun to read when he agrees with you and very not fun when you dont. But he pretty obviously lied about Wentz in that Hot Mic interview, and gleefully dragged his faith through the mud in the process.
McFeeley is a better representation of typical religious view than Carson Wentz
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Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.
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bisonaudit
So, it’s not so much that you want the media to be responsive to their market, you want them to be responsive to you?
No, I'm saying Philly is an outlier. Nice stretch though.
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Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.
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Originally Posted by
NDSU92
No, I'm saying Philly is an outlier. Nice stretch though.
Come on, surely we can agree that all people deserve to have what they already know in their hearts to be true reenforced relentlessly by every piece of media and culture they consume.
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Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.
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bisonaudit
Come on, surely we can agree that all people deserve to have what they already know in their hearts to be true reenforced relentlessly by every piece of media and culture they consume.
An unfortunate concept onto which a lot of ignorant people unknowingly cling. I knew you wouldn't like my "local media" take :)
Like most people with their brains turned on, just trying to sort through the daily media agenda BS (from both sides)... And no, I don't think Wentz gets a fair shake from ESPN or Philly. I'd much more be willing to read folks who write to predominantly Colts fans have to say about it. Much less chance for bias to creep in, IMO.
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Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.
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Originally Posted by
NDSU92
An unfortunate concept onto which a lot of ignorant people unknowingly cling. I knew you wouldn't like my "local media" take :)
Like most people with their brains turned on, just trying to sort through the daily media agenda BS (from both sides)... And no, I don't think Wentz gets a fair shake from ESPN or Philly. I'd much more be willing to read folks who write to predominantly Colts fans have to say about it. Much less chance for bias to creep in, IMO.
Its not so much that I don’t like it as that I think you’re calling it something it isn’t, a local media take.
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Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.
McFeeley notwithstanding, I have a hard time seeing Wentz' religion having anything to do with it. The NFL is full of religious people, many of them more religious and more conservative about it than Wentz. He was clear about his faith, but he backed it up with legitimate actions that helped his community. He wasn't a big bible thumper and he avoided, for the most part, the politics of religion.
I think CAS hit it on the head with his earlier locker room comment, and I also wonder if Wentz coming from NDSU and the average fan not knowing the difference between FCS and DII had anything to do with how the public reacted. Lower division players are supposed to be a bargain that surprises you, like Thelan for the Vikings or whats-his-name who QB'ed the Rams years back. They're not supposed to be drafted that high and make that much money--and if they do, they better be better than anyone else...
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Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.
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tony
Oh, look at Edgy McEdgeLord over here! :)
Oh, look at Tanky McTankerton over here!
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Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.
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Originally Posted by
bisonaudit
Perhaps it isn’t that McFeely is anti Christian as he’s against people using their faith as an excuse to do things that aren’t actually Christian.
“The only Christian denominations who cite a theological reason for opposing vaccines are the Dutch Reformed Church and Church of Christ, Scientist, according to Vanderbilt”
https://amp.dispatch.com/amp/8271710002
My wife's employer required vaccination as a term of employment effective November 1. They did allow for exceptions and most that were submitted were for religious reasons. I don't believe many of them were from those denominations. Many did use the fact the vaccines used research that included cells from aborted fetuses in the 70s as the reason, but most think it was more political than religious. Probably a little of both and they aren't necessarily unrelated.
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Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.
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Originally Posted by
IndyBison
My wife's employer required vaccination as a term of employment effective November 1. They did allow for exceptions and most that were submitted were for religious reasons. I don't believe many of them were from those denominations. Many did use the fact the vaccines used research that included cells from aborted fetuses in the 70s as the reason, but most think it was more political than religious. Probably a little of both and they aren't necessarily unrelated.
It'd be interesting to see whether these same folks making that argument would sign something that said that they'll refuse all medical treatments with any links to fetal tissue.
