Re: A new and better FBS thread
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daddy daycare
NYE Bowl. Lol....Play the grind of a big time conference. Zero % chance. That's all this FBS talk is, made up bullshit. Yes, they were great teams. The grind is something else.
My personal fav is Boise State over Oklahoma. More people remember a g' damn wedding proposal than the actual game.
Come up with something that makes sense or that isn't Sci Fi at least.
Boise State. University of Cincinnati. UCF.
All three examples of schools that for multiple years would be have been included in the 12 team playoff during their success. No Sci Fi, nothing made up.
Big time conference? Up until the past couple years the Valley was near a wash with the MW and better than the MAC. I think we’ve done just fine. Unbiased computer ratings, no sci-fi, nothing made up. Give us 22 more scholarships and I’m even more confident the “grind” doesn’t get us down.
Anywhere else you want to move the goalposts? Or are you just going to say that it all doesn’t matter due to geography (which is probably right, barring some wild circumstances) and move on, until you see some crap bowl on TV and come back using it as a reason to not go FBS?
Re: A new and better FBS thread
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El_Chapo
NDSU brings the crowd wherever we end up in a bowl game, not that hard to figure out.
AND I would hope NDSU would turn down a bowl game if they are 6-6 or 7-5 FFS.
You'd want the team to turn down an extra couple weeks of practice? Lol
Re: A new and better FBS thread
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NDSU92
So see this is why everyone keeps saying y’all are using strawmen arguments. That’s absolutely not what I said and you know it.
2013 and 2019 teams would’ve had a serious shot at a NYE bowl. And there also would be an epic conference championship game.
That’s where the top 2 teams each of Mac and mwc played their bowl games. That’s the future in fbs. So maybe we would be lucky and get back to Frisco after all to the half empty stadium for the two fbs bowls down there.
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Re: A new and better FBS thread
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cx500d
That’s where the top 2 teams each of Mac and mwc played their bowl games. That’s the future in fbs. So maybe we would be lucky and get back to Frisco after all to the half empty stadium for the two fbs bowls down there.
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Well unsurprising that you’re completely wrong. Wanna try again? Here’s a hint, use the internet to look up which team won each conference. Neither of those teams played in Frisco.
You can even use Sagarin ratings if you want to pick “best team” from each. Again, neither of those teams played in Frisco.
Utah State (MW champ) beat Oregon State in Los Angeles
Northern Illinois (MAC champ) lost to Coastal Carolina in Orlando
Boise State (MW highest rated) is playing Central Michigan (MAC highest rated) in… a NYE bowl in Tucson.
No Frisco, all better games in better locations (I would know, I live 1.5 miles from Toyota Stadium in Frisco).
Even then, all teams had at least 3 losses. They didn’t have the best season that they could. What I posted above for bowl games is not even the ceiling or what we would define as a great season. Boise State is the highest rated team at 28 in Sagarin. We’ve had at least one team finish above that in recent memory.
Re: A new and better FBS thread
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NDSU92
Well unsurprising that you’re completely wrong. Wanna try again? Here’s a hint, use the internet to look up which team won each conference. Neither of those teams played in Frisco.
You can even use Sagarin ratings if you want to pick “best team” from each. Again, neither of those teams played in Frisco.
Utah State (MW champ) beat Oregon State in Los Angeles
Northern Illinois (MAC champ) lost to Coastal Carolina in Orlando
Boise State (MW highest rated) is playing Central Michigan (MAC highest rated) in… a NYE bowl in Tucson.
No Frisco, all better games in better locations (I would know, I live 1.5 miles from Toyota Stadium in Frisco).
Even then, all teams had at least 3 losses. They didn’t have the best season that they could. What I posted above for bowl games is not even the ceiling or what we would define as a great season. Boise State is the highest rated team at 28 in Sagarin. We’ve had at least one team finish above that in recent memory.
Yeah like anyone would want to go to Florida, Arizona or California to watch the Bison play in December.
Re: A new and better FBS thread
There will be a lot more discussion on this and where NDSU may end up/look to in the next 6-8 months.
Re: A new and better FBS thread
I don't think anybody cares about Sagarin anymore but point taken..Mid Major bowl games are abundant and mostly meaningless. It is rare that a mid major gets a big time bowl. It is fun though when it happens. The best part of the MW is not the rinky dinky bowl game it is winning the MW championship. The conference has long long long term rivalries and beating those guys is the real fun.
Re: A new and better FBS thread
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MWC
I don't think anybody cares about Sagarin anymore but point taken..Mid Major bowl games are abundant and mostly meaningless. It is rare that a mid major gets a big time bowl. It is fun though when it happens. The best part of the MW is not the rinky dinky bowl game it is winning the MW championship. The conference has long long long term rivalries and beating those guys is the real fun.
We care about Sagarin because it’s the only way we have been able to measure ourselves against the FBS. If we are FBS, we won’t care because we’ll be able to do it on the field.
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CAS4127
There will be a lot more discussion on this and where NDSU may end up/look to in the next 6-8 months.
Dropping hints??
Re: A new and better FBS thread
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MWC
I don't think anybody cares about Sagarin anymore but point taken..Mid Major bowl games are abundant and mostly meaningless. It is rare that a mid major gets a big time bowl. It is fun though when it happens. The best part of the MW is not the rinky dinky bowl game it is winning the MW championship. The conference has long long long term rivalries and beating those guys is the real fun.
NDSU fans use Sagarin because it’s one of the best, consistently updated and includes FCS with FBS.
The hardest part apparently to getting some people on board with FBS is getting them to understand that going 6-6 and playing in the Frisco bowl is not the ceiling for a G5 school. But, people see a lower bowl on tv and it triggers their confirmation bias.
