A new and better FBS thread

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Originally Posted by daddy daycare

Big 10 had me rolling over. That's a good one.

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All Purple

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Originally Posted by daddy daycare

Agreed but moving to a CUSA type conference could have massive long term implications as well without a G5 playoff.

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It is a risk but I am not sure how we move forward without taking a risk. I don't see any ideal situation falling into our laps like JMU got.

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Originally Posted by NDSUstudent

It is a risk but I am not sure how we move forward without taking a risk. I don't see any ideal situation falling into our laps like JMU got.

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JMU's situation is ideal geographically but it is still a risk financially. They have previously funded their athletics on the back of student fees. Now by moving to the FBS they are by state law required to lower the percentage of athletic funding coming from student fees. They do have 3-5 years, I believe, to do that. However, they are still taking a risk. They have done their due diligence and believe the funding gap can be made up with increased donors, higher game payouts, increased ticket sales and FBS TV contracts. I say this to further support your point that any move that we make, or any school makes, is going to have some level of risk. Texas and OU moving to the SEC has a large amount of risk. There is never going to be a zero risk/no brainer option.

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Originally Posted by NDSUstudent

It is a risk but I am not sure how we move forward without taking a risk. I don't see any ideal situation falling into our laps like JMU got.

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NDSU CANNOT STAY PAT. it's suicide

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Originally Posted by BigLakeBison

Would the implications be more or less negative than FCS? My estimation is that the bottom is likely about the same but the ceiling is much higher in FBS. That's why to me your long term plan can't be to stay FCS.

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If you're in a conference like what the CUSA is alleged to be the ceiling isn't good.

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Originally Posted by El_Chapo

NDSU CANNOT STAY PAT. it's suicide

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As is a sh*tty FBS conference.

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Originally Posted by daddy daycare

As is a sh*tty FBS conference.

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haha

Daddy Daycare. DO Nothng we Die he doesn't care Move to ANY FBS & give ourselves a fighting chance he doesn't care.

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Originally Posted by El_Chapo

haha

Daddy Daycare. DO Nothng we Die he doesn't care Move to ANY FBS & give ourselves a fighting chance he doesn't care.

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You are correct. I don't care. I know where NDSU falls in the grand scheme of college athletics. I mean we could be dreaming of the Potato Bowl with one hundred of our friends. WHOA...such a think big mindset.

Or the realistic outcome.

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Originally Posted by daddy daycare

If you're in a conference like what the CUSA is alleged to be the ceiling isn't good.

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I’m not advocating for CUSA at all costs but every year that passes with us still in FCS gives us fewer and fewer options and the urgency increases. You don’t like any options so I’m not sure exactly what you are arguing for or against. Based on my observations, the math doesn’t work for us to stay FCS with declining attendance and revenues and still try to grow our athletic department.

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Originally Posted by daddy daycare

If you're in a conference like what the CUSA is alleged to be the ceiling isn't good.

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We're a top 50 team right now in multiple all-D1 computer rankings. I'll say this, if we were consistently a Top-50 team in the worst FBS conference for 10 years, people would at least recognize it, we'd be a household name in MW conference talks. Not a cute school with a great history beating up on small division schools.

The difference in ability is no different between the two examples. The difference is the perception people have. For myself and many others, there just is no getting around having to already be FBS when MW or MAC comes sniffing around to expand. The FBS brand is that important.

If we were to go and fail and flame out, guess what? We'd be back at FCS, probably winning championships in short order considering what little competition was left is now leaving.

“Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things you didn’t do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines! Sail away from safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover!”

-Mark Twain, maybe