2021 Verbal: Cole Payton

TP said on Sam Herder's podcast that there will be a QB competition this spring, and that he hopes to have it resolved before fall camp.

FCS Football Talk wherever you listen to podcasts. Not a bad listen.

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Originally Posted by scottietohottie

Was it hard giving them all flu shots?

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non vaxed bro

nothing else is allowed in my house

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Originally Posted by G_Funky

TP said on Sam Herder's podcast that there will be a QB competition this spring, and that he hopes to have it resolved before fall camp.

FCS Football Talk wherever you listen to podcasts. Not a bad listen.

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This makes so much sense and another example of why I have trust in Polasek.


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Prepare theyself https://x.com/killakreww/status/1902...947047863?s=46

I don't see it really happening. It's a nice PC thing to say but the advantage in the run game that Cole brings is enormous. At the very least Cole is Tim Tebow only with a stronger and more accurate arm and a lot faster. What he will become in the future at his very best outlook could be something like a cross between Steve Young and Cam Newton. Cole is a TD threat on every snap he takes. Only the most elite FCS defense's will even be able to somewhat contain him. Especially after he hits a few deep and mid-range shots to Bryce,Chris,Raja, and Jackson. Maybe we will even see a TE emerge.

Nobody, at this stage really knows what Cole's true potential really is; Nobody, not Cole, not the coaches, and especially not us.

I really, super really, hope the coaching staff opens up the passing game in those first few games; I mean wide open. It will accomplish two big things: First, it will give Cole live action game experience making reads and hitting receivers with good timing, as well as developing a meshing and synergy with his OL, so when the Coyotes come to town he is ready and able to navigate the pocket and know when he needs to evacuate.

2nd, If the MVFC teams see a successful passing game from Cole and the greatest receiving corps in Bison history, they aren't going to be able to stack the box and attack the raw inexperienced passer in his first year as starter. They will have to defend a complete and balanced offense loaded with elite talent at all skill positions, especially QB run.

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Originally Posted by Alsen

I don't see it really happening. It's a nice PC thing to say but the advantage in the run game that Cole brings is enormous. At the very least Cole is Tim Tebow only with a stronger and more accurate arm and a lot faster. What he will become in the future at his very best outlook could be something like a cross between Steve Young and Cam Newton. Cole is a TD threat on every snap he takes. Only the most elite FCS defense's will even be able to somewhat contain him. Especially after he hits a few deep and mid-range shots to Bryce,Chris,Raja, and Jackson. Maybe we will even see a TE emerge.

Nobody, at this stage really knows what Cole's true potential really is; Nobody, not Cole, not the coaches, and especially not us.

I really, super really, hope the coaching staff opens up the passing game in those first few games; I mean wide open. It will accomplish two big things: First, it will give Cole live action game experience making reads and hitting receivers with good timing, as well as developing a meshing and synergy with his OL, so when the Coyotes come to town he is ready and able to navigate the pocket and know when he needs to evacuate.

2nd, If the MVFC teams see a successful passing game from Cole and the greatest receiving corps in Bison history, they aren't going to be able to stack the box and attack the raw inexperienced passer in his first year as starter. They will have to defend a complete and balanced offense loaded with elite talent at all skill positions, especially QB run.

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Cole will be very good vs FCS Defenses. They wont be able to account for our run game/Cole/and receiving weapons all at once. USD will be a good early test and if things dont go right, will give us time to make changes. He can also be utilized in a Tommy Mellott type of way. The offense could be very explosive with him and think he will have a very big year. With confidence we have in Nathan Hayes, it should open things up a lot more with how we utilize CP.

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Originally Posted by Alsen

I don't see it really happening. It's a nice PC thing to say but the advantage in the run game that Cole brings is enormous. At the very least Cole is Tim Tebow only with a stronger and more accurate arm and a lot faster. What he will become in the future at his very best outlook could be something like a cross between Steve Young and Cam Newton. Cole is a TD threat on every snap he takes. Only the most elite FCS defense's will even be able to somewhat contain him. Especially after he hits a few deep and mid-range shots to Bryce,Chris,Raja, and Jackson. Maybe we will even see a TE emerge.

Nobody, at this stage really knows what Cole's true potential really is; Nobody, not Cole, not the coaches, and especially not us.

I really, super really, hope the coaching staff opens up the passing game in those first few games; I mean wide open. It will accomplish two big things: First, it will give Cole live action game experience making reads and hitting receivers with good timing, as well as developing a meshing and synergy with his OL, so when the Coyotes come to town he is ready and able to navigate the pocket and know when he needs to evacuate.

2nd, If the MVFC teams see a successful passing game from Cole and the greatest receiving corps in Bison history, they aren't going to be able to stack the box and attack the raw inexperienced passer in his first year as starter. They will have to defend a complete and balanced offense loaded with elite talent at all skill positions, especially QB run.

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Sorry but trying to somehow elevate Cole Payton’s athleticism over Tebow is a joke…..you are talking about a guy who won the Heisman and probably should have won a second.

He’s not Tim Tebow

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Sorry but trying to somehow elevate Cole Payton’s athleticism over Tebow is a joke…..you are talking about a guy who won the Heisman and probably should have won a second.

He’s not Tim Tebow

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They are both the same height and weight. I had the same "holy crap!" feeling the first time I saw Payton run in a game just like the first time I saw Trey Lance running with the ball.

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Originally Posted by Alsen

I don't see it really happening. It's a nice PC thing to say but the advantage in the run game that Cole brings is enormous. At the very least Cole is Tim Tebow only with a stronger and more accurate arm and a lot faster. What he will become in the future at his very best outlook could be something like a cross between Steve Young and Cam Newton. Cole is a TD threat on every snap he takes. Only the most elite FCS defense's will even be able to somewhat contain him. Especially after he hits a few deep and mid-range shots to Bryce,Chris,Raja, and Jackson. Maybe we will even see a TE emerge.

Nobody, at this stage really knows what Cole's true potential really is; Nobody, not Cole, not the coaches, and especially not us.

I really, super really, hope the coaching staff opens up the passing game in those first few games; I mean wide open. It will accomplish two big things: First, it will give Cole live action game experience making reads and hitting receivers with good timing, as well as developing a meshing and synergy with his OL, so when the Coyotes come to town he is ready and able to navigate the pocket and know when he needs to evacuate.

2nd, If the MVFC teams see a successful passing game from Cole and the greatest receiving corps in Bison history, they aren't going to be able to stack the box and attack the raw inexperienced passer in his first year as starter. They will have to defend a complete and balanced offense loaded with elite talent at all skill positions, especially QB run.

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When Tim Tebow was Cole's age he had thrown for nearly 10,000 yards and 88 TD's, along with nearly 3000 yards and 57 TD's on the ground. He completed 66% of his passes.

I don't think it's fair to Cole to say he's better than Tim Tebow. He's never started a game. When he has played, he's basically been a running back.

I hope the coaches have an idea of his potential. They've seen him practice and worked with him for some time.

Hopefully they give him every opportunity to win the job as the elder statesman, but i won't be surprised either way.

Prepare theyself: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cP_7SQrN5GU

May the best QB win!

Tim Tebow was never even close to being a breakaway threat. He ran a 4.72 at the combine. Cole is easily a 4.5 guy with legitimate breakaway speed. As far as Tebow the passer: https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...im-tebows-game

Love Tim Tebow. His heart was bigger than Texas and he was tough as nails with elite leadership skills. Intangibles off the charts, but anybody can easily call Cole Payton the superior athlete. That said; Tebow was an awesome short yardage guy, where Cole has proven nothing special in that department.

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Originally Posted by Alsen

Tim Tebow was never even close to being a breakaway threat. He ran a 4.72 at the combine. Cole is easily a 4.5 guy with legitimate breakaway speed. As far as Tebow the passer: https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...im-tebows-game

Love Tim Tebow. His heart was bigger than Texas and he was tough as nails with elite leadership skills. Intangibles off the charts, but anybody can easily call Cole Payton the superior athlete. That said; Tebow was an awesome short yardage guy, where Cole has proven nothing special in that department.

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Yep, he even kept the sociopaths pulling on the same rope.

Well, there it is, the kiss of death for Cole Payton. Lakes is now predicting he'll be a 2nd round draft pick next year.

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Originally Posted by mtoutfitter

Well, there it is, the kiss of death for Cole Payton. Lakes is now predicting he'll be a 2nd round draft pick next year.

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Just wondering if anyone has ever seen Mel Kiper Jr. and Lakes together?

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Just wondering if anyone has ever seen Mel Kiper Jr. and Lakes together?

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Yeah at the kids table.

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Yep, he even kept the sociopaths pulling on the same rope.

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Doesn’t help that everyone knows the play on third and Cole.

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Well, there it is, the kiss of death for Cole Payton. Lakes is now predicting he'll be a 2nd round draft pick next year.

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Noooooo...

Look, I know there are problems in the world today, but, really? seriously? why the insipid negativity? Cole Payton IS....I repeat IS! theeee most exciting starting QB in Bison history.

Cole Payton IS! the kind of player who can carry a team; and with the OL situation, and IMO, the secondary situation, and the lack of depth on the interior DL, could very well be necessary for the Bison to be successful in 2025.

Be realistic, the Bison going to Tennessee in 2026 is NOT a done deal. There are serious weaknesses, it will take some serious strength at the Bison's areas of strength to win.

Payton's rushing combined with the talent of Chris Harris,Bryce Lance, Raja Nelson,Jackson Williams, and the grossly underrated Owen Johnson, could just render the defensive weaknesses null and void.

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Originally Posted by Alsen

Look, I know there are problems in the world today, but, really? seriously? why the insipid negativity? Cole Payton IS....I repeat IS! theeee most exciting starting QB in Bison history.

Cole Payton IS! the kind of player who can carry a team; and with the OL situation, and IMO, the secondary situation, and the lack of depth on the interior DL, could very well be necessary for the Bison to be successful in 2025.

Be realistic, the Bison going to Tennessee in 2026 is NOT a done deal. There are serious weaknesses, it will take some serious strength at the Bison's areas of strength to win.

Payton's rushing combined with the talent of Chris Harris,Bryce Lance, Raja Nelson,Jackson Williams, and the grossly underrated Owen Johnson, could just render the defensive weaknesses null and void.

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Originally Posted by Alsen

Look, I know there are problems in the world today, but, really? seriously? why the insipid negativity? Cole Payton IS....I repeat IS! theeee most exciting starting QB in Bison history.

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I’ll be saving this one.

I see someone tried Scottie’s new recipe “euphoria”.

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I’ll be saving this one.

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So he's a calf man.

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I see someone tried Scottie’s new recipe “euphoria”.

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Scottie been playing Schedule I?

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I see someone tried Scottie’s new recipe “euphoria”.

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When Alden gets into the barn product, it benefits us all.

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So he's a calf man.

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Subconsciously, it appears.

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Originally Posted by Alsen

Look, I know there are problems in the world today, but, really? seriously? why the insipid negativity? Cole Payton IS....I repeat IS! theeee most exciting starting QB in Bison history.

Cole Payton IS! the kind of player who can carry a team; and with the OL situation, and IMO, the secondary situation, and the lack of depth on the interior DL, could very well be necessary for the Bison to be successful in 2025.

Be realistic, the Bison going to Tennessee in 2026 is NOT a done deal. There are serious weaknesses, it will take some serious strength at the Bison's areas of strength to win.

Payton's rushing combined with the talent of Chris Harris,Bryce Lance, Raja Nelson,Jackson Williams, and the grossly underrated Owen Johnson, could just render the defensive weaknesses null and void.

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If you would have added two more (e's) to "theeee", I would have believed you.

Long overdue thread bump.

I'm not going to eat crow for doubting Cole's passing skills. Three years ago, his throws were inconsistent. Two years ago, he was used frequently... to run the ball. Last year, less frequently, but mostly as a rushing QB. It wasn't that I didn't think he was a good passer, but we hadn't seen it.

At this point, we have now all seen it. And the Passing is Good.

I cannot believe cole payton never transfered away.

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I cannot believe cole payton never transfered away.

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I'm not, up until this year he hadn't showed much passing ability to have FBS schools wanting him as a QB. Maybe he had some offers as a RB or TE but doubt there was much interest for his QBing.

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I'm not, up until this year he hadn't showed much passing ability to have FBS schools wanting him as a QB. Maybe he had some offers as a RB or TE but doubt there was much interest for his QBing.

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Could be. The guy is an absolute unit. He is clearly an NFL athlete, and that much has been clear for a few years.

I can't believe ndsu had him essentially ride the bench for his entire career. What an embarssment of riches we have had.

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Could be. The guy is an absolute unit. He is clearly an NFL athlete, and that much has been clear for a few years.

I can't believe ndsu had him essentially ride the bench for his entire career. What an embarssment of riches we have had.

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Will probably be saying the same thing about Hayes next year.

Tv heads said there were 4 Nfl scouts at the game, presumeably to watch Bryce Lance.. No doubt they had to be impressed by both Lance & Payton.

Yrah his ceiling has always been higher than previous qb but he wasnt allowed to play

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Originally Posted by sbark

Tv heads said there were 4 Nfl scouts at the game, presumeably to watch Bryce Lance.. No doubt they had to be impressed by both Lance & Payton.

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FWIW - radio said six scouts at the game

Started listening to Hack City FCS podcast. Pretty entertaining FCS coverage. At just before the 7 minute mark they start talking about the USD game and have hilarious commentary on Cole Payton’s bruising run where he ran over a couple defenders.

https://bleav.com/shows/bleav-in-fcs...e-what-is-uiw/


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Started listening to Hack City FCS podcast. Pretty entertaining FCS coverage. At just before the 7 minute mark they start talking about the USD game and have hilarious commentary on Cole Payton’s bruising run where he ran over a couple defenders.

https://bleav.com/shows/bleav-in-fcs...e-what-is-uiw/


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.............and I wish he would stop doing that. Haven't these kids played baseball? Have they forgotten how to slide safely? Wasn't his injury last year due to a bum shoulder?

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Started listening to Hack City FCS podcast. Pretty entertaining FCS coverage. At just before the 7 minute mark they start talking about the USD game and have hilarious commentary on Cole Payton’s bruising run where he ran over a couple defenders.

https://bleav.com/shows/bleav-in-fcs...e-what-is-uiw/


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Ive followed them for a couple years now, their coverage always seems less informed than message board dwellers to me.

Listening to izzo or sam herder or zack mckinnel is easy, but I just cringe a little listening to their show.

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.............and I wish he would stop doing that. Haven't these kids played baseball? Have they forgotten how to slide safely? Wasn't his injury last year due to a bum shoulder?

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Easier to slide safely in baseball because it's on dirt not artificial turf, and there is very little risk of having a guy running full speed into your upper body, shoulder or helmet first.

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Easier to slide safely in baseball because it's on dirt not artificial turf, and there is very little risk of having a guy running full speed into your upper body, shoulder or helmet first.

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Tony, I beg to differ. Turf is easier to slide on than dirt (less friction.....that's why players slide 4 feet further on turf and past the bag on occassion). Last part of your post confuses me..........are you advocating going down to avoid a collusion (works for Mahomes).

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Originally Posted by sbark

Tv heads said there were 4 Nfl scouts at the game, presumeably to watch Bryce Lance.. No doubt they had to be impressed by both Lance & Payton.

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I saw Cowboys, Dolphins and one other together.