I would be sure the PAC has a contingency plan for this. If I wasn’t completely convinced they’re incompetent lol
Printable View
I would be sure the PAC has a contingency plan for this. If I wasn’t completely convinced they’re incompetent lol
After I read about how they nickel and dimed the AAC schools, it might be the later.Quote:
Originally Posted by NDSU92
If the PAC 6 adds the Dakota States I'm guessing it gets praised more than panned.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigHorns
Utah State gone to the PAC
https://x.com/PeteThamel/status/1838348191508410675Quote:
Sources: Utah State is expected to take its offer from the Pac-12. The confirmation of accepting the offer is expected soon.
They need one more MWC or Texas school, then PAC holds for now. This is already dipping deeper than they hoped.Quote:
Originally Posted by NDSUstudent
Air Force has recommitted to the MWC.
I think only Nevada hasn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kevin
What a mess. I wonder if anybody's going to flip their announced decision either way because they thought others were coming/staying with them.
The AAC staying put is the big one. It means ESPN wasn't interested in making what would be by far the best G6 conference. Not a good sign for the PAC, which doesn't have a contract for next year.
My guess is they end up talking to the same networks PAC was engaged with before: some combination of Fox, CW, or streaming on Apple and/or Amazon?Quote:
Originally Posted by taper
They will get a deal, the question is if the money will be worthwhile. Its a wildcard, but I'm sure the consultants are whispering numbers in their ears.
Who would that be at this point?Quote:
Originally Posted by taper
Current scoreboard:
PAC at 7, must add one more
MWC at 6 full members, must add 2. Rumors of a play for Texas St and UTEP.
We want PAC to take another MWC school, and Texas St/UTEP to say no.
We want PAC to take NDSUQuote:
Originally Posted by BigHorns
Sure, guess we can dream another few hours/days about that.Quote:
Originally Posted by reformedUNDfan
MWC is our realistic path in, if everything falls right.
AP reporting Utah St and UNLV were the PAC targets, and UNLV might still be in play:
https://apnews.com/article/conferenc...f52f4691cb872c
I think the funniest part of all this is SJSU promising to not leave the MW lol
Okay thanks we were so worried
UNLV going to be gone. There’s no way they stay as things currently sit.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigHorns
All that’s left to see is does the MW add 2 or add 4 and who they are. This was always the most likely scenario. Can’t fault PAC for kicking the tires on the AAC or MW for trying to hold it together.
Can add from CUSA or FCS. No one else is shipping out west for them at this point.
Quote:
Originally Posted by BigHorns
Pete Thamel
@PeteThamel
·14m
Per sources, UNLV officials are expected to huddle tonight to further evaluate options. They would have committed to the MWC if all eight school were in. Now they've pivoted back to exploring.
Yep, UNLV in play for the last PAC slot.
https://x.com/PeteThamel/status/1838370269091524713
After that, MWC will likely formulate their plan and move next (presuming UNLV leaves).
MWC realistically is looking at Texas St, UTEP, NMSU, SHSU, or some set of FCS.Quote:
Originally Posted by NDSU92
They won't pull from eastern CUSA imo.
If they go FCS, its Dakotas, Big Sky, and Texas schools in play.
Montanas plus xDSU as a package would ideal.
Why would Texas State leave for the MW? Money not going to be better. Travel not going to be better. Conference footprint not going to be better.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigHorns
Not a Vikings fan but I assume this is what they feel like. Already resigned to the MW adding only NMSU and UTEP. The universe doesn’t want an FBS NDSU
This is the time where our school president and AD earn their keep.
If Texas St moves, it will be because they get another Texas school to come along. They are almost on an island in SBC.Quote:
Originally Posted by NDSU92
That plus, MWC could throw some of that exit fee money around.
Like I posted a while back, don't think its highly likely, even though the rumors are flying on it.
Maybe 20% odds?
I could just as easily see SBC adding another Texas school to keep Texas St happy.
I don't think those two are enough, they would be at 7 schools for all sports and 8 for football....living on the edge of a razor.Quote:
Originally Posted by NDSU92
They MUST have 8 full sports FBS members to remain a FBS conference, per bylaws.Quote:
Originally Posted by NDSUstudent
They need to add 4 or 5 if UNLV leavesQuote:
Originally Posted by BigHorns
Utah State to the PAC
Sent from my Pixel 6a using Tapatalk
Or become exposed as failures.Quote:
Originally Posted by NDSUstudent
Pete Thamel claiming that the MOU that UNLV and AFA signed was contingent on all 8 teams to be valid…
https://x.com/petethamel/status/1838...HQPKWSmnUDKjxgQuote:
Originally Posted by NDSU92
All these reshuffles get crazy.
General rule though is the higher level conferences poach first, then it filters down.
It does seem probable if UNLV leaves, so does AFA.
AAC would be better option at that point for AFA again. AAC successfully repelling the PAC raid on Memphis, Tulane, UTSA, USF helps them emerge stronger.
Apologies for shouting this into the abyss one last time, but this is the exact moment in time where i believe it would have paid dividends to be proactive about FBS messaging. Get other fan bases and by extension their boosters and administrators in the frame of mind that we intend to be G5 and successful while we do it. Help them understand what we bring to a conference.
Yes I understand “the people who need to know, know”, but the people who don’t get paid a million bucks to know the difference, don’t know why their conference would or should be looking at NDSU. Half the battle these days is waged on Twitter.
Fire both if ndsu doesnt have an fbs invite by christmas.Quote:
Originally Posted by NDSUstudent
Still have no clue if Cook is serious about the FBS or not. This whole keep it hush-hush you know where we stand ML quote might just be to temper the fan revolt that rejecting an invite would bring. If you start making public statements, there is no real backing away from making the move.Quote:
Originally Posted by Twentysix
Theres also potential fallout if you publicly announce you are all in on FBS, then don't land an invite.Quote:
Originally Posted by NDSUstudent
What fallout? Lol you mean the fans might actually realize we’re stuck in a subdivision of teachers’ colleges and glorified community colleges?Quote:
Originally Posted by BigHorns
Things are moving fast today because there is a lot of arm wrestling between PAC, AAC, and MWC going on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Twentysix
After that settles, MWC may take a moment to regroup, evaluate and plan their path forward.
They will have a pot of money, and could try to raid someone else.
Whoever remains are the ones that will ultimately meet to decide what they want to do with MWC.
That could move fast, or a little more deliberately. PAC was on ice a while before all the activity of the past few days.
If MWC shrinks to 4/5 now, one or two of those could explore options as well. But ultimately, I think MWC will rebuild. Hard to know how quick they move.
I didn't say go full lakes, I just want some backchannel buzz that our admin is excited about the possibility. They literally don't even need to state it, just leak it to some lackey reporter.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigHorns
Really I am not sure what the fallout is of going full lakes....maybe some recruiting issues and diminished fan excitement I guess. No conference we play in is going to care because we play in leagues full of basketball and hockey schools that are content to live where they are.
If our leadership squanders this rare opportunity, why would a stud HS baller want to come to NDSU knowing NDSU has reached their ceiling?
How many current players are here for FBS potential, and how many because they want to play for championships and a chance at the pros?Quote:
Originally Posted by NI4NI
Don't know that answer, but would be a little surprised if we've been selling recruits on FBS.
I think we’ve sold a lot of recruits on the enthusiasm and excitement around the program. That is becoming a harder sell every year that we remain in the FCS.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigHorns