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Our FBS opportunity is here. All that needs be said.
Yeah...and how awesome would it be to see us listed in the Top 25 rankings? It's been a decent decade of football, but could have been even better with more visionary and risk-taking leadership. Just look at Colorado State's willingness to join the Pac 2. Risky? Yes. Visionary? Yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by NDSUstudent
https://x.com/dennisdoddcbs/status/1...EKbwE0_xipAVQw
https://x.com/petethamel/status/1838...EKbwE0_xipAVQw
This might slow things down a bit …
“hey guys let’s all wear promise rings” lolQuote:
Originally Posted by WhoRepsTheLurker
What’s the point of a GoR when your media deal is up in 21 months?
The MWC needs to add schools and then do a GoR, too much uncertainty right now.
I think the GOR thing was just speculation. The current deal expires in 2026. I do think there is some negotiating going on and it involves the immediate cash dispersal from the poaching and exit fees.
Likely a bit of tug of war between AAC and MWC over AFA, and possibly with UNLV as well. It feels like a play to try to pay those guys out to stick around a while.Quote:
Originally Posted by MWC
It’s smart for MWC to do what they can to leverage the exit fees and basketball credits to stop the bleeding so to speak.
While exit fees often get negotiated, not sure GoR have truly been tested in a courtroom setting yet. In theory, they could extend beyond the end of the current media deal, and are helpful to setup the next deal.
Believe the PAC 6 have already agreed to their own (5 year?) GoR to set the stage for media negotiations.
Tulane, USF and Memphis all just backed up their commitment to remain with the AAC. I guess PAC will turn to the MWC again and/or some Texas schools.
PAC adds Gonzaga....
https://x.com/Brett_McMurphy/status/...ad-997683.htmlQuote:
Gonzaga leaving West Coast Conference to join Pac-12, source told
@ActionNetworkHQ
. Pac-12 still needs minimum of two football members by 2026, but Gonzaga, even w/out a football team, will receive a full conference revenue share in Pac-12, source said
Very good chance of this if AAC successfully defended their flank.Quote:
Originally Posted by NDSUstudent
That leaves MWC, SBC, CUSA schools in play. I’d guess something like Texas St and UNLV are top targets now.
Basketball is important to the top conferences.Quote:
Originally Posted by NDSUstudent
One strategic mistake we’ve made is not investing more in basketball.
Saw that one coming. Next prediction is that UNLV and another MW join, potentially without the PAC paying their way out of the MWQuote:
Originally Posted by NDSUstudent
Not saying they wouldn’t do it but idk wtf the plan would be with adding Texas State lol. Nothing close to a travel partner and completely out in the middle of nowhere. If they’re going the Texas route I could see UTSA and Texas State. Still would not understand the benefit of adding large teachers colleges halfway across the country.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigHorns
Yeah, Texas State is really the most attractive Texas school left on the table but they would be out there on an island unless they also grab North Texas.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigHorns
https://x.com/RossDellenger/status/1838298588520014063Quote:
The Air Force Academy has committed to remaining in the Mountain West Conference, sources tell
@YahooSports
, signing or expected to soon sign a new grant-of-rights deal with financial incentives.
Weirdness abounds..I have no idea where this going..
Don’t know that I can fully explain the logic with the 2nd tier Texas schools, but every major conference wants a presence there. For Texas St it would be about the money and prestige of joining PAC. PAC could possibly get desperate enough to go after a UTEP type school as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by NDSUstudent
You're on a board with a bunch of fans who are afraid they know exactly where this isn't going.Quote:
Originally Posted by MWC
So, we are back to where we were when PAC declared war on Mountain West. Anyone worried then declare a cease fire and just merge?
Yep, between Air Force and AAC, I’m sure neither really wanted it to happen, just a contingency for AFA. To me this means the MW going to survive.Quote:
Originally Posted by NDSUstudent
Check, check and check. Now it’s up to UNLV and an unnamed other MW to decide PAC or stick with the MW. If they stick with the MW, things going to get awfully odd for the PAC…
Nope, the four schools that left the MW want absolutely nothing to do with the lower schools. The difference is legit $10M+ per year.Quote:
Originally Posted by THEsocalledfan
Depends if PAC runs out of time/money/resources to fight with. They need 2. In theory the pool seems deep enough to pull from somewhere. Would they rather join/add ALL of the remaining MWC schools, or take the PAC 6 and add some schools like Texas St/UTEP/etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by THEsocalledfan
They wanted the "best" of G5, but there are other Texas and nearby options. They might approach SBC schools also, though some of the eastern ones are a bad fit geographically. Maybe they target schools like Louisiana, USM, Ark St on the western side.
This situation has really flip turned upside down.
Adding gonzaga is great, but might make other football adds less attractive imo. Maybe gonzaga adds that much to the tv deal though that it won't matter. I've always understood tv deals to mostly mean football.
I’m guessing the thought is they’ll contribute a lot on NCAA bball credits? They’re really going to make out like bandits. All the revenue of football but none of the costs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Twentysix
Wait, you think the new PAC is going to get a ~$15M per school media contract? Apple supposedly offered $20M to the PAC10 (minus USC/UCLA, but with all the others).Quote:
Originally Posted by NDSU92
The $15M number comes from industry reporters. I don’t think they’ll get that much. I think adding the MW schools does nothing but divvy up the same sized pie between more members, and probably hurts the brand at the same time. The number of schools is a major deal.Quote:
Originally Posted by taper
Mountain west current contract with those 4 schools is $5M. Imagine what it’ll be without those schools…
The Good Lord Himself could hand me the final answer key on this and I'd still likely not believe all of it.
It's a shemozzle.
They might get $15M ... but not per school.Quote:
Originally Posted by taper
Gonzaga to the PAC in all other sports - NDSU added as a football affiliate to balance things out.
Just throwing it out there.... :innocent:
At this rate it’ll probably be the jacksQuote:
Originally Posted by Professor Chaos
LOL, you imagine how quickly Cook would say yes?Quote:
Originally Posted by Professor Chaos
Memphis, Tulane, USF, and UTSA issued a joint statement on their commitment to the AAC. That raid attempt is a bust.
Air Force announced they're staying in the MWC and are willing to sign a GoR.
#5 and #6 from the MWC is going to cost the PAC $24.5M in buyout penalties, plus the normal MWC exit fee by the school. That money doesn't exist, nor are there 2 available MWC teams worth that "$15M" tossed around.
No way 2 Sunbelt teams move.
CUSA doesn't have anybody worthwhile.
Non-zero chance this whole rebuild falls apart and everybody ends up rejoining the MWC. It's hilarious that San Diego State made this mistake twice.
https://twitter.com/American_Conf/st...89083371581441Quote:
Originally Posted by taper
AAC cool kids officially and publicly reject the weird kids from the west coast. UTSA specifically included in the rebuff.
Schools signing the rejection via logo: memphis, tulane, utsa, usf
https://i.imgur.com/OEbrPYp.jpeg
https://x.com/NicoleAuerbach/status/...-mountain-west
Gonzaga apparently did not join the pac yet, and is still negotiating.
This tweet is by an nbcsports reporter
Nicole Auerbach
@NicoleAuerbach
The report stating that Gonzaga is headed to the Pac-12 is not accurate, source close to the discussions tells
@NBCSports
. Both sides have had/are having serious conversations, but nothing has been agreed upon by the parties at this point.
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For argument sake if Gonzaga goes to PAC as Basketball only, one could argue that NDSU could go as Football onlyQuote:
Originally Posted by Twentysix
The Athletic mentioning Texas St and UTEP as MWC targets.
Hope that doesn't happen. MWC has secured a media value consultant, so they are clearly thinking "markets" too.
Wow....The MWC is building a wall....
https://x.com/PeteThamel/status/1838341566601048329Quote:
Sources: UNLV has agreed to commit to the Mountain West for future membership. This looms large for the Mountain West, as UNLV and Air Force are considered the flagship schools for the league's future.
https://x.com/PeteThamel/status/1838342932367032800Quote:
San Jose State also plans to commit this evening, per a source.
PAC made a huge early mistake by not taking UNLV right away.
Not the way we want the dominos to fall. Our odds are much lower outside MWC.Quote:
Originally Posted by NDSUstudent
Don't see PAC considering FCS due to perception alone. AAC won't want to stretch their footprint to the xDSUs. Neither will SBC or CUSA.
Agreed, unless they take Utah State and a Texas school of some sort.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigHorns