Yes, but they're going to the ACC, not the AAC.Quote:
Originally Posted by ByeSonBusiness
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Yes, but they're going to the ACC, not the AAC.Quote:
Originally Posted by ByeSonBusiness
Same size as Wake Forest. No need for giant stadiums you'll never/rarely fill. Maybe they'll expand since they are going to host bigger/better schools now, but who knows.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gully
We don't need additional capacity for regular games against random opponents, you need it for big games. If Wyoming and Craig Bohl were coming to Fargo we would easily sell out 25k. However, as part of the deal they would want a couple thousand tickets for their fans so they could travel to the game. Same could be said for any decent G5 or low level P5 that we would try to schedule a H/h or 2 for 1 with. It's just how FBS scheduling works. If you can't guarantee them the number of tickets they want, they won't schedule you.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigHorns
But not all teams fans travel well. Ive been to Big 10 games where the opposing fans were basically non existent. But there is a pretty easy fix. You just freeze all unsold season tix and hold back single game tickets to meet that request.Quote:
Originally Posted by AKBison
Some squawking about the Blue Hens:
https://www.delawareonline.com/story...e/70779798007/
So glad NDSU leadership sat around waiting for the "right" offer.
thumbs up asses. Ive told you 100 times and now i'm fully convinced Larson/Phelps could care less, they want to ride this out for 5-10 more years then retire back east. its the easiest job in the world to ride coattails and operate in the BLACK staying in PUD FCS>..Quote:
Originally Posted by Sun Bison
https://apnews.com/article/conferenc...956e571b4426e1
Maybe nothing, but still talk of rebuilding the Pac-2.
meanwhile FCS PUD continues
University of West Georgia will embark on a transformative journey to join NCAA Division I Athletics
Wow, that's actually a rather insightful article.Quote:
Originally Posted by KSBisonFan
Suggests there is a big battle behind the scenes for control of PAC and its assets. The departing members certainly would be incentivized to shut it down, but it looks like OSU/WSU trying to stop that. Normally departing members are excluded from any conference decisions according to rather standard bylaws. OSU/WSU should win this fight.
They could still be looking to use PAC as a shell to merge with MWC, or they could legitimately be looking to rebuild it. Quite possible the departing schools have thrown monkey wrenches in that if they haven't given up governance.
In the words of Lloyd Christmas, “so you’re saying there’s a chance!”Quote:
Originally Posted by KSBisonFan
this FBS stuff dictates how I feel about the fargodome expansion/remodel. If there isn’t a legit chance to go FBS soon, then I’m in favor of the renovations, despite being less than enthused about the overall architectural changes to the dome, and lack of seat capacity increase. On the other hand, if we can go FBS soonish, and they have these minimum stadium capacity thresholds (which are greater than what the fargodome currently has), then the whole thing is “lipstick on a pig” in my view.
Attendance isn’t a problem, the minimum attendance isn’t real since it’s never enforced.Quote:
Originally Posted by land grant bison
What is a problem however is a conference doesn’t want the optics of such a small stadium (ridiculous, btw but it is what it is). And then the dome is obviously not expandable.
Pretty funny considering Hawaii was playing in a condemned stadium lol
I’d be willing to bet my bottom dollar that this is nothing more than OSU and WSU trying to protect the leftover assets. Absolutely fuck the rest of the schools if they try to gut it and leave those two schools with nothing. Already left them for dead on the side of the highway and now want to go through their pockets as well. Shameful.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigHorns
Osu/wsu needs to say they are going to use the conference, brand, rebuild, etc. even if they don’t want to and just want the money. The PAC is dead.
Hawaii hasn’t played at Aloha Stadium for a couple of years now. Their “temporary” on campus home had an initial capacity of a little over 9000 and is now up to 16000. It remains to be seen if a replacement for Aloha Stadium will ever be built.Quote:
Originally Posted by NDSU92
Not to split hairs here, but the exact immortal words of Lloyd Christmas are “…so you’re TELLING ME there’s a chance…”Quote:
Originally Posted by land grant bison
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zMRrNY0pxfM
The 400 million dollar 25,000 seat expandable stadium has been approved and is set to open in 2028.Quote:
Originally Posted by bisonaudit
https://www.khon2.com/local-news/wit...-open-in-2028/
Aloha Stadium was a very cool stadium. Greatest fan road trip. They don't call Hawaii paradise for nothing. By far the best tailgating ever. It just got old and needed to go. It did not belong to the University. It was built as a multi use facility. I am sure that a new multi purpose thing will get built as part of a large entertainment development.Quote:
Originally Posted by bisonaudit
It was not close to campus at all but Aloha was a good stadium for a long time.
I think, in most cases having the football stadium on campus is better. It just adds to the vibe. I think , if they choose, the university can expand the temporary facility into a permanent home. I think 20 to 25 thousand is just about right.
I think your stadium is great. It is a fan friendly environment and that is important. It is warm in winter.
this crowd after halftime is why NDSU needs to be FBS
wake up admin!!!
4200 max
I left at half to go home and watch. Lol. Roehl’s play calling was 100% the reason though.Quote:
Originally Posted by El_Chapo
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I stayed and I got to see that Cole run in person so there’s that.Quote:
Originally Posted by TAILG8R
PAC HQ sounds like a clusterfuck.
https://www.eastbaytimes.com/2023/09...-slow-to-move/
The MWC should really find a way to dump the bottom feeders of the conference. No way in hell the PAC is going to take the likes of Nevada or Fresno, or even WY looks appealing right now. The MWC is easily won by the top 5 FCS teams and it’s not even close!Quote:
Originally Posted by BigHorns
I agree with you to an extent..Fresno shouldn't not be on your list of bottom feeders, though. The Pac2 is two tiny market schools who benefitted tremendously by being in a conference that paid them for being bottom feeders for decades.Quote:
Originally Posted by B.Schlossman Fan Club
I am unconvinced that there will be some sort of reverse merger where OSU/Wazzu add schools to a dead league. They may join the MW but they aren't dictating policy under that scenario.
If the MW can figure out a way to kick schools out that will be the way the cookie crumbles. But that would just create new bottom feeders. If you believe that a snapshot right now is the only true indicator of how the future will be and disregard past success then you may miss out on schools who are just going through a down stretch.
The divide comes in football..It is wide and getting wider. Other sports not so much. Conference membership is about a lot of things.
Kicking schools out of a conference will not happen. Closest thing you’ll ever get is an attempt to get a school to leave by low-balling their media $ payouts.
Kicking a school out of a conference is some bad juju that is almost guaranteed to come back around one way or another.
We just lost chapo!!!! He's a buff now eh.
https://www.si.com/college/colorado/...r-nebraska-win
I've always liked Primetime and like what he's done as a college football coach. He didn't make the rules.
wake up admin always makes me laugh.Quote:
Originally Posted by El_Chapo
Temple was voted out of the Big East for having shitty football, just saying...Quote:
Originally Posted by NDSU92
St Thomas????Quote:
Originally Posted by NDSU92
SBC booted FB only NMSU and Idaho about a decade ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by AKBison
All affiliate-member schools. Should’ve clarified. St thomas the outlier for getting kicked out for dominating too much. Obviously will never happen at the scholarship divisions.
No schools are getting voted out of the mountain west. Unfortunately for us.
https://apnews.com/article/oregon-st...9d16d7ee398c67
Judge rules for Oregon State and Washington State.
They were football only/associate members, and SBC decided it wanted a smaller geographic footprint.Quote:
Originally Posted by The_Sicatoka
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...ving/81159780/Quote:
The Sun Belt’s Presidents and Chancellors strongly believe it is in the best interest of the conference to have a core membership of 10 football teams that are geographically located within the ‘footprint’ of the conference and that these 10 members also compete in all conference sports.
The only G5 conferences where this isn't a problem for us is MWC or *maybe* MAC. All the other G5 conferences have said they want to stay inside their footprint now.
We need PAC to either poach/rebuild, or wait for the next reshuffle in a few years. This is just being realistic about the path.
... on the TRO to not allow a meeting.Quote:
Originally Posted by KSBisonFan
Who still has voting rights is TBD.
I've read that the PAC had no exit fees AND had no defined process for "notification of withdrawal"* from the conference**.
WasSU and OrSU claim holding a press conference is enough to cancel voting rights; the rest claim they haven't officially withdrawn and retain voting rights.
*Some great contract work there by those fancy PAC lawyers.
**No one will ever leave, right?
They got the temporary injunction, this freezes the status quo, but keeps PAC alive.Quote:
Originally Posted by KSBisonFan
Now they need to win a full ruling on control before time runs out on them.
I think they need an unambiguous path forward by late December.
The injunction also says the PAC can't make any business decisions without approval of all 10 members.
... or build a conference yourself, ground up. (Liberty got an exception to go DI FBS without an invite so precedent is set.)Quote:
Originally Posted by BigHorns
FBS membership rules make that incredibly formidable. Must have at least 8 already existing FBS members.Quote:
Originally Posted by The_Sicatoka
It would be easier to just go Indy ourselves than try to build a new conference, and even that has very large barriers.
Biggest problem isn't even NCAA, its getting into the CFP, which is a separate corporate entity.
Notre Dame is the only Independent school recognized as a CFP member.
Suspect this is why Army is now strongly considering AAC membership.
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CFP Administration, LLC, manages the administration operations of the College Football Playoff. Members of the company are the 10 FBS conferences (American Athletic, Atlantic Coast, Big Ten, Big 12, Conference USA, Mid-American, Mountain West, Pac-12, Southeastern and Sun Belt) and the University of Notre Dame.
I don't see a path forward for NDSU football. I said it. There is no path to FBS for the foreseeable future. Let Fargo do whatever it wants with the Dome and focus on basketball. That's what FCS schools whose leadership doesn't want to move to FBS football do. NDSU's leadership and North Dakota in general has had a "let them come to us mentality". Fargo is not a destination, it just isn't. If it wasn't for Champman I think we would still be in the old NCC with SDSU, UND, and USD.
The northern plains have a population problem, but, they also have a Wisconsin and MN problem in that neither state wants to have DI football outside of their 1 major university. That could have solved our geographic problem, but we don't have control of that so there is no use in blaming them, it just would have been nice to have a MAC like situation in MN, WI, IA (Northern Iowa), and ND and SD. As Bison, I guess we will wallow in mud and be happy about it because we are still alive.
/end rant
I couldn't agree with this more. I have never really spent much time thinking about how our problem is really that MN and WI don't have FBS football at a second school. You've got a point and an additional FBS school in each of those states likely would have resulted in a northern plains FBS conference long ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sun Bison
It's both a blessing and a curse. There's no regional G5 conference because of it, but that also means regional recruits that don't get a P5 offer come to us. It may have created a ceiling, but we also wouldn't have gotten where we are if that talent was spread around.Quote:
Originally Posted by NDSUguy
Insert applause emoji for the post. As sad and realistic as it is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sun Bison