2010 Recruiting

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Originally Posted by JackFlash

I had to finally register and post after browsing for the past several years. I enjoy the site and much of the usefull information.

I couldn't agree more with Burgundy, SDBison and others on the recruiting front. If the transition to DI has shown SDSU anything, it is to mirror the Bison in recruiting. You guys have blown our doors off and are the litmus test for recruiting in the midwest, if not the nation. I have been extremely envious of each and every class you have been able to sign since the transition. I mean let's be honest, it is a miracle we have beat you juggernauts three in a row and 4 out of the last 5. WOW, where do we get off doing that to the Bison. Don't we know about you're D2 tradition? The temerity of the Jacks just blows me away. I mean, how many D2 championships do you all have? Where does the FCS committee get off not automatically putting you into the playoffs every year? Utterly ridiculous. After all, NDSU is in Fargo (a city without rival), has gold plated toilets and reams of velvet for players to wipe their backsides.

Each night before I lay my head down, I pray that we can come up to the level of NDSU in recruiting. Until that unimaginable day happens, I will have to relegate myself to the shallow victory of actually winning on the field with sub-Bison players. But I know it is only a matter of time before tradition and facilities reasserts its preeminence. I am patiently waiting for Army to do the same.

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Thanks for your voice of reason. I have gotten real tired of all of the jackwhines on the board lately.

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Originally Posted by mgbison

great post Jackflash. give her rep points.

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Whoopi did come strong with her first post, I must admit.

I thought it seemed a little too genuine, how dare you take shots at my gold-plated toilets!

What other schools are going after Gilson from IA? You would think Iowa State, Iowa or at least N. Iowa would be all over this kid?

this article says Esala has committed to MN Duluth?
http://www.wissports.net/sports/foot...26529&tid=1417

and Costigan committed to WI?
http://www.wissports.net/sports/foot...74239&tid=1124

yes, and yes. Welcome to last year ;) Costigan committed awhile ago and Esala just did the other day. We only had a partial to him supposedly.

so why is the "recruiting summary" still show them under the "offer list" and not under the offered and committed elsewhere list?

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/footbal...search-results

I did a search for kids who were interested in NDSU on rivals. There are a bunch of kids on there from AZ and Texas and Nebraska. But it seems rivals is doing a good job of adding more kids as the recruiting season progresses. There is a 3 star CB from Texas named Fred Jackson that has an offer from NDSU and Navy. runs a 4.42, would be awesome if he came here. Another thing that I find interesting is that most of the kids that we have interest in, SDSU and UND are on thier list too. Do we share recruiting info with these schools, do they come to our camps. I'm just wondering how we can end up targeting the same kids in places like Arizona and Texas. I understand it around here, but in those states, I just don't get it.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/footbal...-Jackson-97294

Umm, yes please. Great GPA, amazing verticle jump. Looks like an amazing talent. It all depends on who ends up offering I guess.

#54 safety in the nation.

Good find. Thanks for the info on Fred.

so Fred Jackson should be on the "offer list"?

Julius Shelby has interest from us and don't think anyone has offered him yet. Sounds like he's finished high school too.

few quotes by him:

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"Eastern Michigan has remained in touch along with a few other schools like Miami of Ohio and North Dakota State. I'm also starting to hear from a few smaller level schools like Northwoods (D-2). I'm basically open to anyone who's interested in recruiting me. I also was a bit slow in getting my senior tape out there, so I'm hoping to get my tape out to as many schools as I can. So far the overall feedback has been pretty positive."

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"I'm hoping to get some official visit offers pretty soon. I definitely want to go out and see some schools in person and I'm hoping the month of January is a pretty busy month for me."

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"It would be great to play at a big D1 school, but I'm more interested in getting a good education and playing for a program where I can succeed on and off the field. That's what I'm hoping to find sometime soon."

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QB Justin Sieczkowski, from Arizona, CSU was all over him but slowly backed off, has anyone heard any more information on him??

This came from mid September:

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While Sieczkowski currently does not have any offers, he thinks one in particular might be brewing.

"I think North Dakota State might," said the three-star quarterback. "The way they've been talking to me makes me think they might give me an offer to play there. And I really like them, so we'll see how it goes."

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Originally Posted by NDSUFan_Sav

Julius Shelby has interest from us and don't think anyone has offered him yet. Sounds like he's finished high school too.

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I heard he will be making his decision soon, not sure of what offers he has yet.

According to the Bison Media Blog via Zach Vraa's coach NDSU is still number 1 on Vraa's list. keep your fingers crossed!

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Originally Posted by ming01

According to the Bison Media Blog via Zach Vraa's coach NDSU is still number 1 on Vraa's list. keep your fingers crossed!

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Zach is the kind of player that we need to get things rolling. Jose showed during the Youngstown game that he can pass with precision and we actually had some guys that were making the catches. Zach looks like a possession receiver with some YAC-ability. He is almost Wes Welker-esque. They have very similar builds and are a bit on the shifty side which is perfect for a West Coast offense.

My fingers are certainly crossed on this one. :nod:

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Originally Posted by Castor Troy

Zach looks like a possession receiver with some YAC-ability. He is almost Wes Welker-esque. They have very similar builds and are a bit on the shifty side which is perfect for a West Coast offense.

My fingers are certainly crossed on this one. :nod:

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I want Vraa at NDSU! Not sure about the comparison to Welker, though..Zach is 6'3" and Welker is about 5'9". Vraa had a basketball offer from the Bison at one time according to Rivals. If we got him to go with Marcus Williams we would surely have the best basketball backcourt of any football team in the MVFC!

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Originally Posted by Kermit

I want Vraa at NDSU! Not sure about the comparison to Welker, though..Zach is 6'3" and Welker is about 5'9".

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I agree with this. I would love to see this kid here.

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Originally Posted by Kermit

I want Vraa at NDSU! Not sure about the comparison to Welker, though..Zach is 6'3" and Welker is about 5'9". Vraa had a basketball offer from the Bison at one time according to Rivals. If we got him to go with Marcus Williams we would surely have the best basketball backcourt of any football team in the MVFC!

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Yeah, I guess you're right. Welker is about 190 lbs and Zach goes about 200.

Boy does Vraa make his QB look good in those videos! He had to go up and get it a fews times. It's good to see that he can do this as well.

Added some more offers from rivals.com: Michael Allen, Fred Blow, and Fred Jackson. Thanks for the info, guys.

I would have done it sooner but the only information is a checkbox by their name (no interview, no quote from the player) and the students are from TX and AZ. Those things often add up to incorrect information - so we'll have to wait and see.

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Originally Posted by NDSUFan_Sav

QB Justin Sieczkowski, from Arizona, CSU was all over him but slowly backed off, has anyone heard any more information on him??

This came from mid September:

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGocifFduIE

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Originally Posted by admin

REPORTEDLY OFFERED BUT COMMITTED ELSEWHERE (8)
Kyle Costigan, 6-5, 265, Muskego, WI, OL/DL *Committed to Wisconsin*
Jeremy Curry, 6-3, 225, Bolingbrook, IL, DE *Committed to Eastern Michigan*
Matt Eggen, 6-5, 290, La Crosse(Logan), WI, OL *Committed to Minnesota*
Aaron Esala, 6-4, 305, Ashland, WI, OL *Committed to Minnesota-Duluth*
Tom Farniok, 6'3, 260, Sioux Falls (Washington), SD, OL *Committed to Iowa State*
Eric Oertel, 6-2, 193, Racine (Lutheran), WI, RB/LB *Committed to Washington State*
Matt Perez, 5-11, 200, Park Ridge (Maine South), IL, RB *Committed to Indiana*
Jordan Rodgers, 6'2, 205, Butte CC, CA, QB *Committed to Vanderbilt*

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Looking at the recruiting summary, even without looking at the talent level of some of the verbals we've gotten, just looking at where our offers are committing elsewhere to is pretty impressive - some FBS talent (comparatively, that is) in Minnesota, Indiana, Wisconsin, Vandy, Washington State and others. Add to that the Air Force offer to Vraa (assuming we are indeed the frontrunner on that accord) and you can see NDSU's presence being felt in the region. hopefully this continues to grow as we establish ourselves as an FCS power.

From TV's blog today.

The SDSU football team figures to add a couple quality receivers in this recruiting class. The crop is said to be of very high quality, and the team will explore the possibility of adding a junior college wide out, as well. That seems to make sense considering soon-to-be sophomore Aaron Rollin and redshirt freshman Trevor Tiefenthaler appear to be the top candidates to become the No. 1 receiver in 2010. Plus, the last juco WR, Saunders Montague, worked out well.

So, in summary, SDSU is looking to add receivers. They had a 2 star WR in Gebhart in Sioux Falls that NDSU already took and they claim to not have been interested in (if you read their boards). Gebhart is the #1 ranked WR in our zone based on rivals. He was 30 minutes from Brookings and they didn't want him. Interesting. I can't wait for that kid to dominate. Welcome to NDSU son. You will have a fantastic career. Congrats to our staff for getting this kid to camp early, identifying a need and getting the kid.

Well, if it's true they didn't want him, look for some pwnage of their secondary by TG in the Marker Bowls coming up in a couple years.

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Originally Posted by bisonhusker

From TV's blog today.

The SDSU football team figures to add a couple quality receivers in this recruiting class. The crop is said to be of very high quality, and the team will explore the possibility of adding a junior college wide out, as well. That seems to make sense considering soon-to-be sophomore Aaron Rollin and redshirt freshman Trevor Tiefenthaler appear to be the top candidates to become the No. 1 receiver in 2010. Plus, the last juco WR, Saunders Montague, worked out well.

So, in summary, SDSU is looking to add receivers. They had a 2 star WR in Gebhart in Sioux Falls that NDSU already took and they claim to not have been interested in (if you read their boards). Gebhart is the #1 ranked WR in our zone based on rivals. He was 30 minutes from Brookings and they didn't want him. Interesting. I can't wait for that kid to dominate. Welcome to NDSU son. You will have a fantastic career. Congrats to our staff for getting this kid to camp early, identifying a need and getting the kid.

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Do you really want to argue Bohl and his staff's ability to evaluate and project WR Recruits vs. Stig and his staff? At that position, the proof is in the pudding the last few years.

Stig doesn't offer players early, so we'll never know what the great talent evaluator thought of him or a decent chunk of our recruits for that matter.

I don't think Bohl has had a problem with finding talent at the WR position, he just missed and brought in a few players that had character issues. That problem can happen to any coach.

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Originally Posted by jackrabbit1979

Do you really want to argue Bohl and his staff's ability to evaluate and project WR Recruits vs. Stig and his staff? At that position, the proof is in the pudding the last few years.

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Karma, an ugly biyatch she is. Be careful where you tread...

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Originally Posted by jackrabbit1979

Do you really want to argue Bohl and his staff's ability to evaluate and project WR Recruits vs. Stig and his staff? At that position, the proof is in the pudding the last few years.

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So are you saying Stig didn't want Gebhart or that he just didn't start recruiting him early enough and we got one out of your backyard? Two different issues I guess. Our WR's aren't special, but Heckendorf is getting paid in the NFL right now. We have had some good WR's. Rivals seems to think he is pretty good. Great size and speed.

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Originally Posted by bisonhusker

So are you saying Stig didn't want Gebhart or that he just didn't start recruiting him early enough and we got one out of your backyard? Two different issues I guess. Our WR's aren't special, but Heckendorf is getting paid in the NFL right now. We have had some good WR's. Rivals seems to think he is pretty good. Great size and speed.

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I don't know where this all started but Stig did want Gebhart. He called him this summer and had him in the one day camp in July. SDSU had not offered him yet, like they hadn't to most of their recruits. Gebhart would have picked NDSU anyway. Besides, Iowa called and wanted him as a preferred walk-on so I think Trevor could have played for Stig at SDSU if he wanted to.

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Originally Posted by bisonhusker

So are you saying Stig didn't want Gebhart or that he just didn't start recruiting him early enough and we got one out of your backyard? Two different issues I guess. Our WR's aren't special, but Heckendorf is getting paid in the NFL right now. We have had some good WR's. Rivals seems to think he is pretty good. Great size and speed.

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I'm not saying either. I'm sure Stig would have offered Gebhart eventually and it sounds like, based on what his dad is posting, he still would have picked NDSU. Stig obviously didn't see him as a can't miss recruit because he does offer those kids early (i.e. Sumner from Brandon Valley, Brandon Wegher from Sioux City). What I am saying is whose talent evaluation do you trust more right now at the WR position, Stig's or Bohl's? Stig has had very good luck the last five years finding a number of kids that have performed well at WR (Montague, Rollin, Jaron Harris, Fox, Steffen, Cochart) where Bohl has seemed struggled at that position maybe more than any other. You can attribute some of that to differences at QB too, but many posters here on Bisonville have bashed your WR's, besides Heck, for about three years. It looks like Bohl's last two classes of WR's might change that (Wahlo Jr, Rogers, Calhoun, Gebhart, probably Vraa) but that is what you thought about the couple classes before that too (Holloway, Williams, Haynes, McFarland, Mack, Schultenover, etc.).

I'm sure Gebhart is going to pan out and torch the Rabbits a few times in his career - that's what usually happens with situations like this in college athletics.

Advice: This thread is probably not the best place to mention the Bunnies and their recruit because it'll result in some unfunny back and forth.

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The bunny is watching. Always. :)

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Originally Posted by admin

Advice: This thread is probably not the best place to mention the Bunnies and their recruit because it'll result in some unfunny back and forth.

Remember:

http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m...thwatching.gif

The bunny is watching. Always. :)

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I got an Idea then a locked recruiting forum for Bison fans only, I know the UNI board does it??? hmmm not sure how they do it though

Lock it to season ticket holders

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Originally Posted by overquota

Lock it to season ticket holders

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Really?? And why is that?? You mean even though I have not missed a game since 93 but have not bought season tickets, season ticket holders that do not cheer and sometimes don't even show up are better fans and have earned the right to more information??

sdsu turds are so envious

I brought up Gebhart's name because the bunnies have a thread going on about keeping SD talent in SD. Nobody is really talking much about one of the best talents in SD this year. I am excited about this kid coming to NDSU. If Vraa is added to this class, I am excited about the WR position in the future.

I know Hallstrom reported that LB Max Busher did not have an offer from the Bison, but it was stated in this article that he did. However, Busher has now committed to Northern Iowa.

Just checking to see if anyone has heard of a WR from Andover, MN named Jason Schneider. He is 6-5 205. Jason was listed on SS. He was named Class AAAAA Academic All-State with a 3.91 gpa. He is interested in Pharmacy and realizes that is a 6 year program. He has listed interest from SDSU, NDSU and UND. Only SDSU and NDSU have Pharmacy UND has hockey.

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Originally Posted by DORMIE

Just checking to see if anyone has heard of a WR from Andover, MN named Jason Schneider. He is 6-5 205. Jason was listed on SS. He was named Class AAAAA Academic All-State with a 3.91 gpa. He is interested in Pharmacy and realizes that is a 6 year program. He has listed interest from SDSU, NDSU and UND. Only SDSU and NDSU have Pharmacy UND has hockey.

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A little write up from Terry V. I found in the Argusleader.

"I've been able to independently confirm two names that the Jacks seem to have legit interest in. Jason Schneider is a 6-5, 210-pound receiver from Andover, Minn. His prep coach, Rich Wilkie, who just happened to be my sophomore basketball coach, said that he has had only one player better in his 22-year career: former Nebraska kicker and MLB all-star Darin Erstad. Schneider, also an excellent student, does not have an offer yet from the Jacks, but seems likely to get one during a campus visit. NDSU and UND are also in the mix."

http://www.argusleader.com/apps/pbcs...Id=personaDest

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Originally Posted by baseballfan7

I know Hallstrom reported that LB Max Busher did not have an offer from the Bison, but it was stated in this article that he did. However, Busher has now committed to Northern Iowa.

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Sometimes, it is a matter of semantics, i.e. a player may have HAD an offer at one time. In the end, the Bison got the linebacker they wanted from the Twin Cities this year: Mr. Grant Olson.