Ya think about good that team was and like u said you can’t trust Trey more than that? Plus we had good backs as well. I will say I thought JMU was really good that year.Quote:
Originally Posted by HerdBot
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Ya think about good that team was and like u said you can’t trust Trey more than that? Plus we had good backs as well. I will say I thought JMU was really good that year.Quote:
Originally Posted by HerdBot
NDSU's offenses have been as conservative as you can get away with. With Trey that meant overly heavy QB run game for the championship to eliminate possibility of explosive defensive plays by JMU. Get the ball in the most explosive player meant Trey that year, Hunter last year, this year... no obvious choice I can see.Quote:
Originally Posted by Snowgoose
Sometimes being overly conservative comes back to bite NDSU, but over the past 10 years its has more often been a recipe for success.
Little known medical fact... leadership capabilities are stored in the calf muscles.
I have also heard that this is also the seat of the soul.Quote:
Originally Posted by EC8CH
It was Hunter this year also but …Quote:
Originally Posted by EC8CH
In the chipper I was thinking specifically... Unfortunately no hunter there.Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenfieldBison
The offense wasn't a major issue this year. This defense didn't perform as well as those defenses. 21 points would have been enough to win 7 of the previous 9 championships. And the other 2 were only 24 and 27. Hopefully the Bison can improve next year on the defensive side. This is not a team that can win shootouts on a regular basis.Quote:
Originally Posted by Snowgoose
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Yep, for some reason I read right past the phrase “the championship”. My ellipsis dots were meant to imply he was missing from that game. So we were on the same band at different frequencies I guess.Quote:
Originally Posted by EC8CH
I wonder how much a healthy Hunter might have impacted that outcome.
Not much, He was not on the line or played defense.Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenfieldBison
Then put him at RBQuote:
Originally Posted by HerdBot
I agree with you as I was mainly posting facts about Cams season in comparison to Brock’s season. I do feel it should be an open competition but Cam hasn’t been bad. The defense was a major problem but the offense still could have been better as they could not get it done in big games when needed except for maybe Incarnate Word.Quote:
Originally Posted by IndyBison
LOL, now I know how far Bison team expectations have dropped when fans describe our starting QB as "hasn't been bad". Is that just a tad above sorta good, at times better than OK, or just slightly better than mediocre?Quote:
Originally Posted by Snowgoose
I’ll say it. Cam has been good. The benchmark is high and that’s also good. But with the team we had this year we needed better than just “good” at QB (in addition to better O scheme and playcalling). Is Cole the answer? Not sure but I’m willing to give it a chance.Quote:
Originally Posted by SDbison
Meh.... defense being bad was biggest issue.Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenfieldBison
Yep, we won a few Natty’s with just good offenses. Great defense has been the consistent in our championship teams. This years defense was not championship quality.Quote:
Originally Posted by EC8CH
That said I think our biggest issue on offense is our OC. It’s not a QB issue!
Good running backs are a dime a dozen. Elite running QBs are notQuote:
Originally Posted by thebigund
I agree with this part, but I can't erase the memory of the Zeb and Quincy experiments where coaches chose not to put the best player on the field.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bisonator98
While I totally agree, the best defense is a fresh one sitting on the sideline watching a 9 minute drive. At times, our offense wore down our defenseQuote:
Originally Posted by EC8CH
Fixed your postQuote:
Originally Posted by HerdBot
There are a myriad of things wrong with this team really. Entz, ML, TR and the new DC are gonna have to earn their paychecks the next couple of years, or not have one coming from NDSU if they don’t.Quote:
Originally Posted by KSBisonFan
I'm really worried that they'll be kept around longer than they should, particularly TR. Tough (though it shouldn't be) to fire a great alum.Quote:
Originally Posted by CAS4127
I thought NDSU says iron sharpens iron & bring on the competition.
then Cole should be given a chance in an open competition this spring/fall for starter.
I feel strongly that Cam is wrongly being thrown under the bus. It’s on Entz and TR in my opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by El_Chapo
But I don’t otherwise disagree with your post.
If you used a stone to sharpen teh iron it would probably get sharper eh.
Jfc your schtick might be more annoying than the common manQuote:
Originally Posted by scottietohottie
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ialways…..Quote:
Originally Posted by SiouxHockeyBisonFo
How do you know that that didn't happen last off season? We already know that before the previous 2 seasons Cam did NOT win the QB battle, causing the Zeb, then Quincy, experiments...which didn't work, mind you.Quote:
Originally Posted by El_Chapo
You guys just want to believe something so much that you'll manipulate every narrative to support your feelings rather than objectively looking at the situation. Nobody here knows whether or not Cole's truly been given a chance but past evidence shows that this coaching crew knows how to accept that their starting QB is replaceable if the on-field product is suffering and the guy on the bench is shining in practice.
Personally, I don't give a shit one way or another. I'm just waiting for someone to provide REAL evidence of Cole's superior ability because I haven't seen it. Until I do, I'll just assume that anyone spouting such unsubstantiated nonsense is simply following the Lakes model of prognosticating. Good luck with that guilt by association.
You want facts on and evidence on Bisonville. You in the wrong place.Quote:
Originally Posted by OrygunBison
Cam is a very good passer that throws an accurate ball. The offense needs to pass more if Cam is the QB and the passes need to be when the offense wants to pass the ball and not when the defense knows they have to pass the ball. I heard Entz mentioning that we need to improve the passing game and I hope he actually means that. It is great that we have such a great running game that for the most part we can win a bunch of games without really needing to pass but to truly become unstoppable on offense the defense needs to defend the entire field when the Bison are on offense.
A big problem with the Bison is they never pass in the games where the opponent is overwhelmed and that is when you should work on improving the timing of the passing offense. When they put in the backup in mop up duty they need to let him pass as well.
Go Bison!
Ideally you dont want a redshirt freshman to start unless its necessary but in the years its happened, the starter struggled big time. Stauss being replaced by Walker. Moehler being replaced by Jensen. Zeb being replaced by Cam. Quincy being replaced by Cam.Quote:
Originally Posted by OrygunBison
The last 2 years, Cam has never struggled big time. (i dont even count the Spring) He's been steady. He had 1 awful game, but Cole was injured
All I want is a competition. This will be Coles 3rd year in the program. This is when players are expected to take the next step
Cams accuracy is suspect. Quite often overthrows open receivers.Quote:
Originally Posted by KC_Hats
This is also true, but D line... That's where the bunnies out classes us the most. We need to be better and deeper there ASAP.Quote:
Originally Posted by HerdBot
66% completion percentage on the year and one terrible game. Blaming this season on cam is nonsense.Quote:
Originally Posted by EC8CH
Not to mention it was a second place finish which the rest of the country would sell their souls for and we want to fire the head coach , oc and national champion QB. [emoji23][emoji1787][emoji23]
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I'm more concerned about arm strength than accuracy. He's not a guy who is going to throw a lot of 18 yard outs or long bombs. He's accurate but when he is not, we struggleQuote:
Originally Posted by EC8CH
Hes been fine on the long throws. But the long out patterns he needs to stay away from.Quote:
Originally Posted by HerdBot
How do you know that competition HASN'T happened. Perhaps, just perhaps, Cole hasn't beaten out Cam.Quote:
Originally Posted by HerdBot
I don't know one way or another but you guys keep making these stupid statements as though coaches don't see what the damn professionals (you guys) see. You want to believe that he just hasn't had a chance yet and that's the only explanation as to why he hasn't taken the FCS by storm yet.
Teh university and teh coaches are teh stone eh.Quote:
Originally Posted by SiouxHockeyBisonFo
You leave my schtick out of this eh.
You'll find out what a schtick slap is eh.
Thought this was a competition eh.
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I just don't get the "iron sharpens iron" stuff. No it does not.
To service my woodworking hobby I have acquired a collection of vintage and heirloom chisels and planes. To impart mirrored razor edges on those various irons I use a collection of sharpening implements, all made of some form of stone. Plus a lubricant.
The last thing in the world I want to introduce to one of those finely honed edges is another piece of metal.
It might sound good but it is a flawed analogy.
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Ok, I feel better. Apologies for the drift. Back to the discussion and schtick, eh.
imagine talking about another man's schtick.