It was me bro.Quote:
Originally Posted by NDSU92
I said it.
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It was me bro.Quote:
Originally Posted by NDSU92
I said it.
Very well spoken. Have you thought about running for office or at the very least get us out of the fcs?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kevin
I'm sure you'll be shocked to find out it was some Rube on a message board who apparently is banned from said board.Quote:
Originally Posted by NDSU92
https://csnbbs.com/thread-940025-page-3.html
When "10" equals 20.
https://twitter.com/Brett_McMurphy/s...CjpeLsvagrAAAA
Most likely scenario is
- Notre Dame stays indy (Dame gonna Dame)
- UW, UO, and Cali-Stan added to B1G from PAC
- Four corners of PAC go Big XII (CU, UU, ASU, UA)
- Requiescat in pace PAC12
- WasSU and OrSU are newest members of the MWC
- One fewer FBS conference west of Mississippi River
Sorry, but I think you are way off
PAC > MWC, no matter what the B1G does
PAC will reload with MWC schools IF they have to, and MWC will reload with whatever they need to survive
Just watch ...
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Originally Posted by The_Sicatoka
There are so many possible scenarios I don't think we can outright dismiss anything. If the B1G/B12 do raid the PAC they'll obviously take the best teams, and if they each take 4 that leaves WSU and OSU all alone. I don't see any way those two can attract enough teams to keep PAC alive, and even if they do it's just a renamed MWC. Whether the PAC or MWC name goes away doesn't really matter.Quote:
Originally Posted by WhoRepsTheLurker
It's extremely hard to kill a conference, especially a P5. It's a pecking order, and the PAC is much better positioned than the MWC, no matter what happens. But I'm not surprised you agree with him ;) You seem very sympathetic to their (lost) causeQuote:
Originally Posted by taper
NDSU top 5 in G5 for Sagarin Rankings
where are all you "we wanna be interesting 2nd tier of college football" Gene said it, now Matt parrots it.. We are already 5th in the 2nd tier.
hurry the F up.
this post is 8 years old. EIGHT!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by El_Chapo
If this particular scenario does happen and the PAC2 is OSU and WSU, is it only a philosophical question if they're still the PAC? A few pages back I posted a short history of failed conferences, at least one conference dropped FBS football in the first half of each decade since the FBS was created. Yes, conferences are hard to kill, which is why it only happens once a decade. But it absolutely does happen, and almost like clockwork.Quote:
Originally Posted by WhoRepsTheLurker
Here’s a more interesting and more likely angle …Quote:
Originally Posted by taper
You’ve been asking for a split and I’ll agree this could trigger a split, but it won’t go down the way some hope
The P3 will survive by raiding the G5 and the G5 will survive by raiding lesser G5/FCS. If any conference dies, it will be CUSA. P3/G4 will consolidate as the 2nd level. No question, the PAC would choose to become G5-level conference before it chooses to die. But I think even that’s a stretch …
Here’s another prediction - NDSU will easily make the cut to the 2nd level but UND will not, and I’d say the majority of their fanbase agrees. D1 FCS is the perfect place for a hockey school in a state like ND, and I’d wager the SBOHE agrees too. Competing at the 2nd level of CFB is not going to be a cheap endeavor …
But we’ll see how it plays out. No offense to anyone intended. Just reading the tea leaves and being as frank as possible
SBOHE has zero fucking say in what ndsu football goes or what division as we privately fund most of it
plus can you imagine any politician that would try & stop NDSU? they'd be run out of the state
Of course they aren't going to stop us. Taper as much as admitted he made it up when he said he had no proofQuote:
Originally Posted by El_Chapo
If you're trying to say the Board won't act against NDSU's interests you are completely divorced from reality. As for my theory of them saying no, it's just a theory and I've always said that. In a thread devoted to possible scenarios I consider it valid discussion. I have exactly as many sources for this as you do for MWC membership.Quote:
Originally Posted by NDSU1980
I agree with everything except the P3 raiding G5. If we do get a P3 instead of P5 it's because they want nothing to do with the peons(in their eyes). G5 and FCS are equally worthless to them. If a P3 becomes real it will raid P5 and probably kill PAC. More of a consolidation with losers stepping down than winners stepping up. At least IMHO. I completely agree UND and USD aren't ready for FBS and possibly never will be.Quote:
Originally Posted by WhoRepsTheLurker
I also think it's important to split what [I/you/they] want to happen with what [I/you/they] think will happen. I'm pretty confident my dream scenario won't happen, but that won't stop me from advocating for it just in case.
Linux guys…. [lol]Quote:
Originally Posted by taper
Beep boop
Hey! I think you're the first to actually recognize my avatar. Props for that.Quote:
Originally Posted by I miss Chubs
They will do whatever circumstance dictates in order to survive in FBS. Look at how quickly the PAC flipped its script on playoff expansion. And they see G5 as FBS and FCS as D2. I think I'm being pretty objective. I try not to be a homer when parsing the future landscape of FBS, but NDSU is much better positioned than you seem to want to admitQuote:
Originally Posted by taper
The way things are going, this is spot-on.Quote:
Originally Posted by taper
I recognized it. I just didn't acknowledge it. You more RedHat or Debian?Quote:
Originally Posted by taper
Bullshit and you now it. Just another self-serving comment, hoping to tag alongQuote:
Originally Posted by The_Sicatoka
Where do they (P5) get their call-ups?
First thing I noticed. 13 years ago??! Just didn’t want to be the last one to say anything! LolQuote:
Originally Posted by taper
When you say P3 in this context are you meaning the remaining P3 after the P2 break away?Quote:
Originally Posted by WhoRepsTheLurker
Like I wouldn’t recognize Linux first…
Lol.
My mother speaks Linux. Fluently! [emoji6]
In this round of consolidation it's the P2 armoring up fiscally. From that viewpoint, a G5 is an FCS.Quote:
Originally Posted by WhoRepsTheLurker
For comparison I put the highest and lowest MAC (plus median) with the Dakota 4 (Revenue, Expenses, FB spending) here. Two of the Dakota 4 fit right into that chart, but not the two you'd guess.
Yes, maybe its 3/2 not 2/3, who knows, but it will be really tough for all programs currently in the P5 to compete with B1G and SECQuote:
Originally Posted by TAILG8R
But there's no way even the P2 sees the G5 as FCS. That's just bullshit being peddled by the guy "swinging from Snorty's nuts" ...
Make a list right now of teams the P2 (B1G, SEC) would consider inviting to their club right now. Nary a G5 or FCS makes the list.Quote:
Originally Posted by WhoRepsTheLurker
I usually reinstall every few years and try to rotate distros. Fedora 18 was my first try at that one and poisoned me towards it. Would still pick CentOS(now Rocky) for servers. Debian is great but feels limited. I ran Arch for a long time but systemd completely hosed me and I went back to Mint for awhile. On Manjaro now.Quote:
Originally Posted by The_Sicatoka
It is tough for schools to compete with the B1G and the SEC now.
Of course not, but that's not what you said. You said G5 and FCS will become equivalent in the eyes of P2 in the future landscape of CFB, and that's just bullshit. There's a clear D1 hierarchy that will only become amplified by realignment. To make that equivalence is nothing more than wishful thinking on your part, as a Fighting Hawk fanQuote:
Originally Posted by The_Sicatoka
taper said: If we do get a P3 instead of P5 it's because they want nothing to do with the peons(in their eyes). G5 and FCS are equally worthless to them.Quote:
Originally Posted by WhoRepsTheLurker
I said that (last sentence) was spot-on.
And yes, to a P2 or P3 scenario, G5 and FCS are worthless to them. It is what I said.
Too add further explanation, if the P5 becomes the P2 or P3 then by definition some current P5 teams get left out. Why on earth do you think G5 or FCS teams would be considered over current P5 members?Quote:
Originally Posted by The_Sicatoka
G5 > FCS whatever happens in realignment, excluding CUSA. That's just fact. Look at the preseason SagarinQuote:
Originally Posted by The_Sicatoka
... and I could definitely see the P2 replacing their cup-cake FCS games with G5 games. That would certainly impact you
So FCS will likely become worthless to them, but G5 won't. Semantics
And just as easily I could see the P2 going "insular schedule" and shutting everyone else out. They are veering toward creating the "Saturday NFL". Applications not taken, don't call us we'll call you.Quote:
Originally Posted by WhoRepsTheLurker
You actually think anything but money matters right now.Quote:
Originally Posted by WhoRepsTheLurker
UW/UO/Cali-Stan are hanging in the wind because they can't bring at least current share slice to the B1G revenue pie. Until they can, or choose to take a reduced cut, they stay in the wind.
Semantics is a good word. It is simply semantics. BUT…Quote:
Originally Posted by WhoRepsTheLurker
Snorty’s nuts don’t swing.
They Drag.
I find it very difficult to believe a good/solid G5 conference would want to add a University that doesn't geographically fit, has declining enrollment, and is in a low population area. We can fix one of these things but I'm not sure how to when highschoolers in the largest population center near NDSU probably don't think there is any difference between us and say Minnesota State or St. Cloud State.
As someone who actively recruits high schoolers to come to NDSU, I can tell you that the last statement is certainly not true. They know NDSU is R1 and it matters to themQuote:
Originally Posted by Sun Bison
Sit tight on the enrollment question …
and as ML said himself, geography isn't as big an issue as it used to be
I don't think FOX sports wold have tweeted what they did if NDSU wasn't under active consideration for membership in a good FBS conference.
That's good to know, still their enrollment is higher. I have no idea if the admission standards are anywhere close to the same.
Geography isn't as big of a factor, but, it is something that an AD or U President can point at as a negative if they are against NDSU joining.
Some of the enrollment issue is on the NDUS for having so many schools, but NDSU is in a different niche (no offense to those schools)Quote:
Originally Posted by Sun Bison
A lot of the kids I talk to are specifically looking for an alternative to the U because of its setting, but not always. I recently talked to a kid from central MN who had NDSU, Wisconsin, and Iowa State as his final three