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Rob Sobolik needs to remember who fills the dome 10 times a year. NDSU
Its not his dome, its the city of fargo.
Fargo needs to remember how much exposure & marketing & advertising NDSU football has given to Fargo.
Its time for NDSU to speak up. Its Time for FBS.
Because going FBS gives NDSU more home games???
Hold on while I attempt to find a year NDSU has had 10 football games in the dome......
Dont forget the spring game
The success of the Fargodome have more to do with his management and the relationships he has developed over the many years hes been there. You really need to listen the interview again. Not just the parts you like.:biggrin:Quote:
Originally Posted by El_Chapo
9 the last three years. 9 this year, too. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by roadwarrior
9 plus Spring Game.
Should of had the summit league basketball there too instead of the sportsman show.
he needs to check his ego.
6 at the max.Quote:
Originally Posted by BisonNation11
It's got nothing to do with checking his ego and everything to do with checking his income statement.Quote:
Originally Posted by El_Chapo
He wants the convention center at the FargoDome and if this is a way to get and secure a tenant for 6-9 dates a year, he's open to it.
After we get to the FBS the playoff field will be up to 24 teams and we will outbid Alabama for a home game.Quote:
Originally Posted by BisonNation11
Hoops at the dome....BlahQuote:
Originally Posted by El_Chapo
FBS College Playoff Show on now. after they see the ratings and buildup, this will be jumped to 16 ASAP!
MAC attendance thru week 8. NDSU would be #3-4
23,142 Ohio (25,211 + 23,027 + 24,311 + 20,018)
21,015 Buffalo (20,329 + 24,714 + 21,139 + 20,841 + 18,052)
19,960 Toledo (20,184 + 24,196 + 17,229 + 18,087 + 20,104)
18,609 Miami (19,005 + 16,670 + 15,970 + 22,792)
18,604 Bowling Green (18,311 + 23,717 + 17,185 + 15,201)
18,221 Central Michigan (15,793 + 25,531 + 18,223 + 13,337)
17,981 Western Michigan (22,226 + 11,493 + 20,225)
17,434 UMass (30,479 + 10,227 + 17,000+ 12,030)
probably 32 and the d2 and d3 champs will get the last 2 spotsQuote:
Originally Posted by El_Chapo
Those UMass numbers are very generous. In fact, I'd say most of those are.Quote:
Originally Posted by El_Chapo
But they're so lovable!Quote:
Originally Posted by marenlee
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Not until the current contract is up. And even after the jump to 16 if you think a non P5 team will get in you are joking yourself. What ever happens with this is most certainly a play for these schools to keep a playoff to themselves and exclude others from money.Quote:
Originally Posted by El_Chapo
not true, Boise State & Northern Illinois with a 11-0 record or 10-1 record would get in
Not true, you are forgetting what the P5 is all about. They don't want anyone playing in their sandbox.Quote:
Originally Posted by El_Chapo
Those teams would be second tier. With the P5 at 64 teams they would take up all of the playoff spots unless there is political pressure and threats to at least let in some lessor teams.
Who needs to check their ego?Quote:
Originally Posted by El_Chapo
We're forgetting that the 4 team playoffs (?!?) was only created because the P5 conferences were sick of SEC champ playing the SEC 2nd place team. But hah check it out 3 teams in the 4 team playoffs currently are from SEC... funny how that works. G5 conferences had no power in creating the 4 team playoff at all they just accepted it in hopes that some day it may be a 20-24 team playoff then they may get a couple teams in, and didn't want to look like hypocrits since they've been clamoring for "playoffs" for several years now.
That goes for Boise States and NIUs of FBS also. Would Boise even been in the 4 team playoff the year they beat Oklahoma at Fiesta? Don't think so and that has to be the closest any G5 has gotten a sniff at the "championship". Where are NIU and Boise State right now? Either of them even in the top 25?? They will not get in unless they play all top tier P5 OOC games and beat them handily at that, then they may have a shot, but their conference play is going to be an anchor on their leg the rest of the season.
Neither of you can say if those schools would or would not get in with 11-0 or 10-1 records. If they had multiple strong non conference wins, especially on the road, then they would have a chance to get in the tourney although one loss could be tough to overcome unless their non conference schedule was off the wall tough. If Boise St or NIU played Eastern Michigan and some other bottom feeders for their non conference games, then forget about it, they're out. So I guess you're both right and wrong; does that mean the end of the world is near?
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Originally Posted by El_Chapo
1 Mississippi State 7-0 NR
2 Florida State 7-0 NR
3 Auburn 6-1 NR
4 Ole Miss 7-1 NR
5 Oregon 7-1 NR
6 Alabama 7-1 NR
7 TCU 6-1 NR
8 Michigan State 7-1 NR
9Kansas State 6-1 NR
10 Notre Dame 6-1 NR
11 Georgia 6-1 NR
12 Arizona 6-1 NR
13 Baylor 6-1 NR
14 Arizona State 6-1 NR
15 Nebraska 7-1 NR
16 Ohio State 6-1 NR
17 Utah 6-1 NR
18 Oklahoma 5-2 NR
19 LSU 7-2 NR
20 West Virginia 6-2 NR
21 Clemson 6-2 NR
22 UCLA 6-2 NR
23 East Carolina 6-1 NR
24 Duke 6-1 NR
25 Louisville 6-2 NR
1 non P5 schools in the top 25 and not even the team that is undefeated.
The only way a non P5 teams makes this field is with multiple wins over quality P5 teams. And when they switch to a bigger playoff they won't even play.
Watch Marshall, they will provide the best picture there is. AAC is a better conference than the MAC. If they run they table they won't break the top 15.Quote:
Originally Posted by MN_BISON
Marshall is sadly shit out of luck, their schedule is horseshit and even if this were an 8 or 16 team field they'd be watching on TV. In order for a non Power 5 conference team to even have a chance at sniffing the playoff field, they'll have to schedule their non conference schedule with little to no chance of escaping without a loss or two and they'll have to go on the road 9 times out of 10 if not 10 out of 10 to play those games. So even if the little guy steps up their schedule, chances are slim to none they'll be able to advance.Quote:
Originally Posted by missingnumber7
Marshall's schedule:
LMAO. That is the most naive post I have seen in the past 12 months. Nobody ever breaks or renegotiates a contract when it comes to college football: neither coaches, AD, schools, TV networks, etc. :) This is especially true when BILLIONS OF DOLLARS ARE AT STAKE.Quote:
Originally Posted by missingnumber7
Last month, ESPN already had an article that schools want expansion to 8 teams asap. With 2 or 3 SEC teams in the playoffs--it's a virtually certainty that the playoffs will be expanded to 8 within a year or two to eradicate the perceived SEC bias.
I HATE TO MAKE BILLIONS OF DOLLARS SAID NO TV EXECUTIVE EVER. Each extra playoff game is millions of dollars in revenue. Let's see, more shit bowls in El Paso and Boise where the TV ratings suck? Or additional playoff games. It does not take a rocket scientist to figure out that playoff expansion is going to happen.
spot on... spot on. This playoff thing will be to 16 in 2-3 years and NDSU has to be in it!!
You want to shock the dam world, join the mountain west, mac or sunbelt. Go 10-1 & get the #15 seed and play kansas state and beat them in the 1st round.
Boise State would have made an 8 team playoff in 2 or 3 different years. Northern Illinois played in a BCS bowl so by deduction they would have made a 16 team playoff that year. After SEC domination with 2 or 3 teams out of 4, nobody believes the 4 team playoff will last long. The other 4 "small conferences" in the Big Five will demand at least 8 teams so their conference has a chance to send a team to the playoffs. Of course, in an 8 team playoffs, the SEC would probably have 3 to 5 teams in. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by 1998braves64
Except the players.Quote:
Originally Posted by Strongman
Ok let's assume best case and they expand and the little guys get a shot. How well does the NDSU fanbase accept a shot at the playoffs 1 out of maybe 4 yrs with no chance in winning a title? The spike in season ticket sales didn't happen until we made the playoff run. Will the fans be interested?
Anybody who looks at the first rating from last night can see that who you BEAT is more important than any close losses (see where Notre Dame is). In an expanded playoff format that fact will not change. What that means is that the power conference teams with a shot at the payoff will NOT PLAY the G5 type programs. And, it has nothing to do with being afraid of losing. It's because WINNING WON'T HELP THEM. So the Boise State's, NIU, etc won't be able to schedule the games they need to win to get into a playoff. Oh, and the 2 SEC teams in the top 4 play each other on Saturday. One will then be eliminated from consideration. It's theoretically possible that 2 could eventually make the final 4 (if it's Georgia and a team from the SEC West) but not all that likely.
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Originally Posted by JMB
You mean like currently in men's basketball??????????
If the standard to be in Division I is that we need to win national titles, then seriously why did NDSU move up???????????????????? Will we ever win a national title in basketball, wrestling, track, softball, baseball, soccer, etc.?
Per your criteria, 80% of the teams in the Big 5 conferences should move down to FCS because they have NO CHANCE TO EVER WIN A NATIONAL TITLE.
Are you saying there is HUGE interest in Men's basketball? Every year, regardless of record?Quote:
Originally Posted by Strongman
never going to happen. You're absolutely delusional.Quote:
Originally Posted by El_Chapo
There will be no need for more than 8. Each P5 conference champion will get their slot. And 3 at larges. BEST CASE scenario would be the best of the G5 would get one spot.Quote:
Originally Posted by natstar1
I'm not saying it will never be 16, but 3 years is crazy talk.Quote:
Originally Posted by marenlee
Did they break the contract with the BCS...nope....and how many times did that not give a legit look at who should be national champs....yea...call me naive if you want, but when it comes to where NDSU stands in the heap of the pile you are El Chapo are way beyond insane in where you see us fitting and how a winning season would help us.Quote:
Originally Posted by Strongman
Look for example where Boise sits now, I know they aren't the media darlings anymore, but listen to ESPN radio, watch highlights on TV, don't see much Boise anymore. Northern Illinois didn't even last past 1 season. Being a media darling and competing with the schools that have played at this level for ever are 2 completely different things. This thread has moved past the move to FBS and has gone to the Clinically Insane.
I think I made a confusing quote :facepalm2:. I was agreeing with you and tried to make a rational prediction.Quote:
Originally Posted by natstar1
NDSU is a football school. Trying to throw in all of the no revenue sports in to the pot is nothing more than trying to cloud the issue with apples vs oranges comparison.Quote:
Originally Posted by Strongman
Again this specific 4 team playoffs was created by the p5 for the p5 and no g5 conference team will ever make it. You can tout 8-16 teams playoffs but until they happen then I will believe it. As I stated only way a g5 makes FOUR team playoff is if they managed to win multiple ooc games against top tier P5 teams (never going to happen no top tier p5 is going to risk a loss to a good g5 team. And the G5 team would not have any home ooc games.
Could it go to 8 or 16??? Yup but don't think it will unless p5 breaks away. Then you're in lower half of FBS upper half of FCS division and pretty sure some of you will not be content either.
I'm for a move up if there is a legitimate playoff and we have the financial backing to make it worthwhile. Pretty sure people a lot smarter than us know how much more money will be coming in and how much more will be going out. That is problem #1B to this whole idea of moving up. 1a is getting a conference invite.
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