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Re: A new and better FBS thread
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The_Sicatoka
I look forward to signing your petition to get amending the State constitution on an upcoming ballot.
That's what it takes to shut down certain schools (namely Mayville, VC, Minot, Dickinson, Bottineau).
See:
Article VIII, Section 6.
split them up between ndsu und. big deal
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El_Chapo
Charm/Kiss Ass the ND HIGHER ED BOARD during the interviews and when you get in GLOVES COME OFF.
NDSU has been held back for 10 years now, with the growth of Fargo area and its athletics and Engineering, NDSU should be 20,000 students easily and busting at the seams making FBS conference a slam dunk
.it's embarrassing what has happened with the Bismarck/pro und people holding NDSU down.
JFC-you have no freaking clue how this really works, do you? Most of your spewage is made-up bullshit but this statement is really award winning stuff.
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The_Sicatoka
Ask Kendall Baker how that worked out for him ...
NDSU has a group called "Phase II Budget Reduction Committee". I've seen the emails, as recent as Nov 2021, in the listserv -->
"Each of the Phase II Budget Reduction Committees will be holding campus discussions to gather input" is the opening sentence of the email.
And have you all heard about
the coming cliff as far as students.
Is a solid NDSU good for the State? Definitely. But understand there are challenges of greater priority that athletics fans don't see that it is working on. (Much the same is true at UND.)
And I still say regarding FBS: "build it".
You guys are funny
Doesn’t look like the cuts will be that much, and they all stem from a budget model based on enrollment, pushed by DB, that hurt you less because of your strong on-line enrollment. Looks to be normalizing now
Also, NDSU may get Ag money, but you get Med School money. Nice try tho. If you normalize NDSU’s output by staff, you might be scared … Does "North Dakota" mean "double standard" in Lakota or something? Different schools, different niches. That’s the only way this works.
As for FBS, build it from what? MVFC? Ha ha ha. Thanks for the chuckle. NDSU and JMU are the only ones FBS ready. The Dakota model in D1 will mean that there will be disparities in athletics success. It’s a D2 model, after all, and the pot is shrinking.
But here’s what I really don’t get about you guys. NDSU jumped up, much to your ridicule, and experienced great success. They never missed you. If NDSU jumps, there’s your opportunity to prove that you can be successful at the D1/FCS level, assuming that’s what you’re really interested in?
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WhoRepsTheLurker
You guys are funny
Doesn’t look like the cuts will be that much, and they all stem from a budget model based on enrollment, pushed by DB, that hurt you less because of your strong on-line enrollment. Looks to be normalizing now
Also, NDSU may get Ag money, but you get Med School money. Nice try tho. If you normalize NDSU’s output by staff, you might be scared … Does "North Dakota" mean "double standard" in Lakota or something? Different schools, different niches. That’s the only way this works.
As for FBS, build it from what? MVFC? Ha ha ha. Thanks for the chuckle. NDSU and JMU are the only ones FBS ready. The Dakota model in D1 will mean that there will be disparities in athletics success. It’s a D2 model, after all, and the pot is shrinking.
But here’s what I really don’t get about you guys. NDSU jumped up, much to your ridicule, and experienced great success. They never missed you. If NDSU jumps, there’s your opportunity to prove that you can be successful at the D1/FCS level, assuming that’s what you’re really interested in?
Does FCS have teh hockies?
I only ask because you mentioned what they're really interested in. :)
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It's so rich to have a fan/assumed grad of the school that has lied and cheated their way to additional state funding explaining to us dumb farmers how SBOHE works.
Yeah, we're well aware. The only reason UND has a pulse at this point is because the state gov legislates their heartbeat. Go get a degree from an R1 institution before you start trying to educate your "peers" sheesh
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Re: A new and better FBS thread
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NDSU92
It's so rich to have a fan/assumed grad of the school that has lied and cheated their way to additional state funding explaining to us dumb farmers how SBOHE works.
Yeah, we're well aware. The only reason UND has a pulse at this point is because the state gov legislates their heartbeat. Go get a degree from an R1 institution before you start trying to educate your "peers" sheesh
law school & med school should be privatized and voila und would be shut down saving the state Millions/ Billions??
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So after all these years, there's been zero proposals that make sense. An FBS move should generate fan excitement and bring in new fans. Good luck with that from what the options are. Dwindling attendance will continue unless it's something legit. 20 year season ticket holder here just being real, deal with it.
Hopefully for Christmas you guys get "your way" and we can be on the ESPN ticket like Wyoming on 12/21 sometime so watch players sprinkle French Fries on Entz in front of a crowd full of parents. Sounds amazing.
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El_Chapo
law school & med school should be privatized and voila und would be shut down saving the state Millions/ Billions??
I think that you must have a grab bag of around 25-30 catch phrases or just stupid statements and you hide your eyes, pick them out of the bag, and cobble them into your posts. It is the only thing that explains the buffoonery of your contributions to BV.
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Re: A new and better FBS thread
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daddy daycare
So after all these years, there's been zero proposals that make sense. An FBS move should generate fan excitement and bring in new fans. Good luck with that from what the options are. Dwindling attendance will continue unless it's something legit. 20 year season ticket holder here just being real, deal with it.
Hopefully for Christmas you guys get "your way" and we can be on the ESPN ticket like Wyoming on 12/21 sometime so watch players sprinkle French Fries on Entz in front of a crowd full of parents. Sounds amazing.
So we don't lose anything from going FBS? Great, thanks for your approval
First it was quality of football team, then it was academics, then it was financials, then it was attendance, then it was TV numbers. Now you compare us to FBS teams that wouldn't even be in the semifinals and pretend like the Idaho Potato Bowl is the best we could do.
And then you play dumb about strawman arguments. Good thing you aren't a lawyer. Enjoy your 9 home games a year, it's literally the only reason to advocate for staying FCS at this point.
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Re: A new and better FBS thread
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ndsu92
so we don't lose anything from going fbs? Great, thanks for your approval
first it was quality of football team, then it was academics, then it was financials, then it was attendance, then it was tv numbers. Now you compare us to fbs teams that wouldn't even be in the semifinals and pretend like the idaho potato bowl is the best we could do.
And then you play dumb about strawman arguments. Good thing you aren't a lawyer. Enjoy your 9 home games a year, it's literally the only reason to advocate for staying fcs at this point.
strawman alert!!!!!!!!
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NDSU92
So we don't lose anything from going FBS? Great, thanks for your approval
First it was quality of football team, then it was academics, then it was financials, then it was attendance, then it was TV numbers. Now you compare us to FBS teams that wouldn't even be in the semifinals and pretend like the Idaho Potato Bowl is the best we could do.
And then you play dumb about strawman arguments. Good thing you aren't a lawyer. Enjoy your 9 home games a year, it's literally the only reason to advocate for staying FCS at this point.
The Idaho bowl, or a likewise dumpster fire that will draw zero interest, is more realistic than the ideas that get thrown around. But, people don't like real opinions from long time season ticket holders apparently. FBSSSSS GOTTTTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.
If we yell loud enough maybe we'll hit that ESPN ticker so someone drinking beers in NY City will recognize it!!!!!! 13K at the Bahamas bowl! I'm sure if that was NDSU it would've been 45K!!!!!!
Ridiculous.
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daddy daycare
The Idaho bowl, or a likewise dumpster fire that will draw zero interest, is more realistic than the ideas that get thrown around. But, people don't like real opinions from long time season ticket holders apparently. FBSSSSS GOTTTTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.
If we yell loud enough maybe we'll hit that ESPN ticker so someone drinking beers in NY City will recognize it!!!!!! 13K at the Bahamas bowl! I'm sure if that was NDSU it would've been 45K!!!!!!
Ridiculous.
So I’ll mark you down as a stay FCS until the Big 10 or Big 12 invite comes in.
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Re: A new and better FBS thread
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El_Chapo
law school & med school should be privatized and voila und would be shut down saving the state Millions/ Billions??
Something tells me UND would continue to exist absent the med and law schools.
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BigLakeBison
So I’ll mark you down as a stay FCS until the Big 10 or Big 12 invite comes in. ��
i can't keep track of the goal post moving
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Re: A new and better FBS thread
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Originally Posted by
daddy daycare
The Idaho bowl, or a likewise dumpster fire that will draw zero interest, is more realistic than the ideas that get thrown around. But, people don't like real opinions from long time season ticket holders apparently. FBSSSSS GOTTTTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.
If we yell loud enough maybe we'll hit that ESPN ticker so someone drinking beers in NY City will recognize it!!!!!! 13K at the Bahamas bowl! I'm sure if that was NDSU it would've been 45K!!!!!!
Ridiculous.
Ahh yes, daddy daycare, in all your infinite wisdom. Is it more realistic to think:
Present day that one time in the next ten years we’d be in a NYE bowl -or-
In 2010 that we’d win 8 of the next 9 FCS championships
It’s okay to not be afraid.
And if you’re going to play “long time season ticket holder” we can post our priority # and see who swings the bigger stick. Spoiler, I can tell you what yard line I’ll be standing on in Frisco
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here's the deal. after Frisco this year
NDSU will be 150-12 w 9 FCS TITLES & 9 FBS wins since 2007.
literally what the fuck else is there to prove at FCS?
NDSU is losing the casual fan AND some hard core fans
Absolutely LOSING THEM .... they might not come back!
So how do you sustain them & gain more?
do the same ol same ol? or make a campaign to petition the Mountain West?
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Re: A new and better FBS thread
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El_Chapo
here's the deal. after Frisco this year
NDSU will be 150-12 w 9 FCS TITLES & 9 FBS wins since 2007.
literally what the fuck else is there to prove at FCS?
NDSU is losing the casual fan AND some hard core fans
Absolutely LOSING THEM .... they might not come back!
So how do you sustain them & gain more?
do the same ol same ol? or make a campaign to petition the Mountain West?
Have we tried Pumping it Up?
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TransAmBison
Have we tried Pumping it Up?
I try everyday
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Re: A new and better FBS thread
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TransAmBison
Have we tried Pumping it Up?
exactly TAB
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Re: A new and better FBS thread
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BigLakeBison
So I’ll mark you down as a stay FCS until the Big 10 or Big 12 invite comes in. ��
G5 playoff would do it.
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Re: A new and better FBS thread
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daddy daycare
G5 playoff would do it.
Fair enough. What happens if a G5 playoff or a larger format FBS playoff comes about with a couple spots for the G5 and the current FBS schools make it more difficult for FCS schools to move up to FBS therefore locking NDSU into FCS because we were unwilling to get more aggressive about moving to the FBS prior to a playoff expansion?
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Re: A new and better FBS thread
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El_Chapo
here's the deal. after Frisco this year
NDSU will be 150-12 w 9 FCS TITLES & 9 FBS wins since 2007.
literally what the fuck else is there to prove at FCS?
NDSU is losing the casual fan AND some hard core fans
Absolutely LOSING THEM .... they might not come back!
So how do you sustain them & gain more?
do the same ol same ol? or make a campaign to petition the Mountain West?
Can’t do that!
This guy has already determined that won’t happen……
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Originally Posted by El_Chapo
yea lets face facts with the Mountain West:
Colorado State got their shit handed to them by US and SDSU, they wont invite us
Wyoming Bohl won't invite us because he knows we are a better program
Boise State doesn't want anyone with a "novelty" sharing the limelight.
UNLV and the other shit teams know that NDSU is better than them.
Fresno/San Jose/Hawaii/San Diego don't want to fly to Fargo
so F em.
CUSA/AAC into BIG 12 in 10 years works for me!
……unless of course you can convince him to move the goalposts…
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Re: A new and better FBS thread
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daddy daycare
So after all these years, there's been zero proposals that make sense. An FBS move should generate fan excitement and bring in new fans. Good luck with that from what the options are. Dwindling attendance will continue unless it's something legit. 20 year season ticket holder here just being real, deal with it.
Hopefully for Christmas you guys get "your way" and we can be on the ESPN ticket like Wyoming on 12/21 sometime so watch players sprinkle French Fries on Entz in front of a crowd full of parents. Sounds amazing.
Dont forget Road!!!!
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An electric atmosphere in Frisco today. BIG TIME.
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BigLakeBison
Fair enough. What happens if a G5 playoff or a larger format FBS playoff comes about with a couple spots for the G5 and the current FBS schools make it more difficult for FCS schools to move up to FBS therefore locking NDSU into FCS because we were unwilling to get more aggressive about moving to the FBS prior to a playoff expansion?
What if my aunt had balls.
That's not going to happen.
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Re: A new and better FBS thread
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daddy daycare
What if my aunt had balls.
That's not going to happen.
I’m not suggesting that it is inevitable but it is absolutely possible. There are no absolutes in the future and I think that possibility should be factored into the decision by leadership. I’m sure more of those type of possibilities might come to light as part of the big ncaa meetings coming up. We’ll see.
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daddy daycare
An electric atmosphere in Frisco today. BIG TIME.
Probably to be expected for two teams that are in the Missouri State/UNI/Sac State level of ability.
Reminder going 6-6 is not the goal, and playing in the Frisco bowl would not be a successful season.
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daddy daycare
An electric atmosphere in Frisco today. BIG TIME.
Maybe give the fans a break. It's a long drive to get to the game for the UNT fans.
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I think there will be some changes coming in the next few years..You will likely get an opportunity to move up if you wish..
I would not be surprised if the MW has done some preliminary homework on NDSU. They do it for a number of schools..You are certainly a viable candidate..
Your location plays no role at all unless you pursue an all sports invitation..
'Football only' comes with subsidy requirements..Hawaii pays bigly to house their football in the MW.
The MW is not looking to add anyone at this point but maybe when this current tv deal expires in a couple years..
The door is not closed but it is not wide open either..Lot's of candidates out there..
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The Frisco bowl game today with University of North Texas and Miami of Ohio, two 6-6 teams, is a good preview of the NDSU fate if we move to FBS.
The North Texas main campus is about 25 miles away from the Frisco stadium, they even have a satellite campus in Frisco among other places. North Texas has over 40,000 students, probably most from the DFW area. Probably a gazillion alumni in DFW. The game temperature was 75 degrees. Attendance wasn’t even half full. Pathetic for such a large, local school.
Such is the life of G5 schools in the 1 game bowl season.
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cx500d
The Frisco bowl game today with University of North Texas and Miami of Ohio, two 6-6 teams, is a good preview of the NDSU fate if we move to FBS.
The North Texas main campus is about 25 miles away from the Frisco stadium, they even have a satellite campus in Frisco among other places. North Texas has over 40,000 students, probably most from the DFW area. Probably a gazillion alumni in DFW. The game temperature was 75 degrees. Attendance wasn’t even half full. Pathetic for such a large, local school.
Such is the life of G5 schools in the 1 game bowl season.
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NDSU hasn’t had a team as bad as either team in 10 years. The Frisco bowl will happen in down years but it is not the goal. The goal at least right away, would be to run the table, win the conference (both no different than we attempt now), win conference championship and get a NYE bowl. It would probably happen once in our first 10 years. The long term plan is to continue to grow the brand, program, fan base and see where it takes us.
The teams playing would’ve lost in the first round of the FCS playoffs, check Sagarin and Massey. They didn’t have good seasons and rightfully so their fans didn’t travel en masse.
Comparing the Frisco bowl to the FCS championship is comparing apples and oranges.
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NDSU92
NDSU hasn’t had a team as bad as either team in 10 years. The Frisco bowl will happen in down years but it is not the goal. The goal at least right away, would be to run the table, win the conference (both no different than we attempt now), win conference championship and get a NYE bowl. It would probably happen once in our first 10 years. The long term plan is to continue to grow the brand, program, fan base and see where it takes us.
The teams playing would’ve lost in the first round of the FCS playoffs, check Sagarin and Massey. They didn’t have good seasons and rightfully so their fans didn’t travel en masse.
Comparing the Frisco bowl to the FCS championship is comparing apples and oranges.
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NDSU92
NDSU hasn’t had a team as bad as either team in 10 years. The Frisco bowl will happen in down years but it is not the goal. The goal at least right away, would be to run the table, win the conference (both no different than we attempt now), win conference championship and get a NYE bowl. It would probably happen once in our first 10 years. The long term plan is to continue to grow the brand, program, fan base and see where it takes us.
The teams playing would’ve lost in the first round of the FCS playoffs, check Sagarin and Massey. They didn’t have good seasons and rightfully so their fans didn’t travel en masse.
Comparing the Frisco bowl to the FCS championship is comparing apples and oranges.
Oh I see. So we would want the the tailgreeter cure bowl, or the Idaho famous potato bowl, or is it the tropical smoothie cafe Frisco bowl, or is it the jimmy kimmel LA bowl…sounds exciting
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bruinbison
Can’t do that!
This guy has already determined that won’t happen……
……unless of course you can convince him to move the goalposts…
you're an idiot
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daddy daycare
An electric atmosphere in Frisco today. BIG TIME.
NDSU brings the crowd wherever we end up in a bowl game, not that hard to figure out.
AND I would hope NDSU would turn down a bowl game if they are 6-6 or 7-5 FFS.
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here's the deal. after Frisco this year
NDSU will be 150-12 w 9 FCS TITLES & 9 FBS wins since 2007.
literally what the fuck else is there to prove at FCS?
NDSU is losing the casual fan AND some hard core fans
Absolutely LOSING THEM .... they might not come back!
So how do you sustain them & gain more?
do the same ol same ol? or make a campaign to petition the Mountain West?
Originally Posted by
bruinbison
Can’t do that!
This guy has already determined that won’t happen……
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Originally Posted by El_Chapo
yea lets face facts with the Mountain West:
Colorado State got their shit handed to them by US and SDSU, they wont invite us
Wyoming Bohl won't invite us because he knows we are a better program
Boise State doesn't want anyone with a "novelty" sharing the limelight.
UNLV and the other shit teams know that NDSU is better than them.
Fresno/San Jose/Hawaii/San Diego don't want to fly to Fargo
so F em.
CUSA/AAC into BIG 12 in 10 years works for me!
Originally Posted by
bruinbison
……unless of course you can convince him to move the goalposts…
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El_Chapo
you're an idiot
#Chapo’sownwordsaretuff
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cx500d
Oh I see. So we would want the the tailgreeter cure bowl, or the Idaho famous potato bowl, or is it the tropical smoothie cafe Frisco bowl, or is it the jimmy kimmel LA bowl…sounds exciting
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So see this is why everyone keeps saying y’all are using strawmen arguments. That’s absolutely not what I said and you know it.
2013 and 2019 teams would’ve had a serious shot at a NYE bowl. And there also would be an epic conference championship game.
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ndsu92
so see this is why everyone keeps saying y’all are using strawmen arguments. That’s absolutely not what i said and you know it.
2013 and 2019 teams would’ve had a serious shot at a nye bowl. And there also would be an epic conference championship game.
strawman alert!
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NDSU92
So see this is why everyone keeps saying y’all are using strawmen arguments. That’s absolutely not what I said and you know it.
2013 and 2019 teams would’ve had a serious shot at a NYE bowl. And there also would be an epic conference championship game.
NYE Bowl. Lol....Play the grind of a big time conference. Zero % chance. That's all this FBS talk is, made up bullshit. Yes, they were great teams. The grind is something else.
My personal fav is Boise State over Oklahoma. More people remember a g' damn wedding proposal than the actual game.
Come up with something that makes sense or that isn't Sci Fi at least.
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daddy daycare
strawman alert!
Stop using them and you’ll stop getting called out for them
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El_Chapo
NDSU brings the crowd wherever we end up in a bowl game, not that hard to figure out.
AND I would hope NDSU would turn down a bowl game if they are 6-6 or 7-5 FFS.
LOLLLL....Yeah. 12/23. NDSU ain't traveling to a dog shit bowl game and you can take that to the bank.