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Originally Posted by reformedUNDfan

All of this shit because the richest and most prestigious conference couldn't just tell USC and UCLA to get lost. I can't wait for those programs to join Nebraska at the bottom of the Big10

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On the one hand, all this shit is likely how our ticket gets punched.

On the other, would like to see just one MWC team leave and be replaced. If PAC falls apart and swipes all the best MWC teams, that conference won't be what it was before.

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Originally Posted by reformedUNDfan

All of this shit because the richest and most prestigious conference couldn't just tell USC and UCLA to get lost. I can't wait for those programs to join Nebraska at the bottom of the Big10

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If you're implying USC/UCLA went to the B1G I believe you have it backwards: the B1G went after them because they're the only thing available that is worth more than a B1G share (after OU/UT were gone). UW/UO or FSU/Clem aren't worth full shares.

But yes, USC will be "Iowa" and UCLA will be "Minnesota" at best.

The PAC: where they are and how they got there
https://sports.yahoo.com/whats-next-...l?guccounter=1

I have exactly 0 tears for schools and conferences who, in the name of TV money in the first place, excluded deserving teams from their subdivision and division only to consolidate money and power. I’m only cheering it on because what it may likely mean for NDSU, but I ain’t exactly lighting a candle every night for the PAC 12 either.

The P5/G5 structure was great, but it was the same structure that held a more than deserving NDSU in FCS.

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Originally Posted by NDSU92

I have exactly 0 tears for schools and conferences who, in the name of TV money in the first place, excluded deserving teams from their subdivision and division only to consolidate money and power. I’m only cheering it on because what it may likely mean for NDSU, but I ain’t exactly lighting a candle every night for the PAC 12 either.

The P5/G5 structure was great, but it was the same structure that held a more than deserving NDSU in FCS.

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Do you know if NDSU has made any applications to join an FBS conference ? I believe that has to be the first step. I don't think conferences can approach a school first. Any number of FCS schools have moved up over the last few years so I don't think there is organized structure to keep FCS schools out.

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Originally Posted by MWC

Do you know if NDSU has made any applications to join an FBS conference ? I believe that has to be the first step. I don't think conferences can approach a school first. Any number of FCS schools have moved up over the last few years so I don't think there is organized structure to keep FCS schools out.

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Why can't conferences approach first?

I'm pretty confident every conference commissioner has heard of NDSU. No need to shout from the rooftops.

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Originally Posted by taper

Why can't conferences approach first?

I'm pretty confident every conference commissioner has heard of NDSU. No need to shout from the rooftops.

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Tampering. Conference members are under contracts with each other.

I am sure there are backdoor channels and lots of nefarious wheeling and dealing but officially the schools have to approach first.

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Originally Posted by The_Sicatoka

If you're implying USC/UCLA went to the B1G I believe you have it backwards: the B1G went after them because they're the only thing available that is worth more than a B1G share (after OU/UT were gone). UW/UO or FSU/Clem aren't worth full shares.

But yes, USC will be "Iowa" and UCLA will be "Minnesota" at best.

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Also USC gets them one step closer to their great white whale, Notre Dame.

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Originally Posted by NDSU92

I have exactly 0 tears for schools and conferences who, in the name of TV money in the first place, excluded deserving teams from their subdivision and division only to consolidate money and power. I’m only cheering it on because what it may likely mean for NDSU, but I ain’t exactly lighting a candle every night for the PAC 12 either.

The P5/G5 structure was great, but it was the same structure that held a more than deserving NDSU in FCS.

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Agree with most of this.

I'm selfishly not rooting for MWC to be torn apart, because I want it to maintain most of its current power and prestige at the G5 level, and not be viewed as a FCS level conference like CUSA is now. If MWC becomes over half Big Sky/MVFC, it will lose some of its luster and potentially the media deal as well.

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Originally Posted by MWC

Tampering. Conference members are under contracts with each other.

I am sure there are backdoor channels and lots of nefarious wheeling and dealing but officially the schools have to approach first.

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I don't think either of us are lawyers, but this makes no sense. One of the prime traits of competition is making offers against existing contracts. If a conference said something like "join us or none of us will schedule you again" you might have a case. But if they say "exercise the exit clause of your contract, join us, and we'll pay you more than you make now", that's literally how business works.

Take the recent Colorado move. The Big12 voted to accept them before Colorado BOR voted to leave the PAC.