High School post-season: ND, SD, MN, WI

Wasn't sure where to put this, but playoffs are going on.

Since there are NDSU verbals, offers, and potential recruits in the play-offs, here it is in Football.

North Dakota

Ryan Smith: we know he had a good day in the quarterfinal win against St. Mary's (6 TDs and 3 2-point conversions). No idea what his total yardage was.
Esley Thorton: He went 4-5 passing and rushed 6 times for 69 yards in Bismarck's quarterfinal win over Fargo North.
Jake Miller: Not a verbal, no idea where he is on NDSU's recruiting radar, but he rushed 11 times for 142 yards and caught a 65-yard TD pass.
Tyler Gefroh: His team lost by 1 in the quarterfinals in a defensive battle to Bismarck Century. Final score: 7-6.

Maybe this post belongs in one of the recruiting threads?

I will try to get some more info on the SD recruits status in the playoffs.

South Dakota

Trevor Gebhart: His team, Sioux Falls Washington, won 65-0 in the first round of the playoffs. Can't find much at all about the game.
Michael Hardie: His team, Sioux Falls Roosevelt, beat Brookings 37-7. Again, can't find out much about the game.

Wisconsin

Colten Heagle: He didn't play RB until the playoffs but in two playoff games he has a total of 428 yards rushing. He averaged over 17 yard per carry in Kimberly's second-round win. He's a DB recruit so it's encouraging that he scored one of his three TDs on a 55-yard interception.

Minnesota*:

Max Busher, Zach Vraa: Busher is a linebacker and defensive stats are non-existent for high school games so, sorry, nothing to report on him.. Three out of four of Zach Vraa's receptions went for TDs. Offense is a different story though. Rosemount only threw five passes. One was incomplete, the others all went to Vraa (not sure what went wrong on the one reception that didn't go for a score.) They beat Apple Valley 42-6.

A.J. Troup, Grant Olson: Again, this is a WR/LB combination at Wayzata (hey, I think I see a pattern in NDSU's Minnesota recruiting this year!) Heck if I can find out much about their postseason. I think they won.

* The guys listed here are reported offers, not verbals.

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Originally Posted by tony

Minnesota*:

Max Busher, Zach Vraa: Busher is a linebacker and defensive stats are non-existent for high school games so, sorry, nothing to report on him.. Three out of four of Zach Vraa's receptions went for TDs. Offense is a different story though. Rosemount only threw five passes. One was incomplete, the others all went to Vraa (not sure what went wrong on the one reception that didn't go for a score.) They beat Apple Valley 42-6.

A.J. Troup, Grant Olson: Again, this is a WR/LB combination at Wayzata (hey, I think I see a pattern in NDSU's Minnesota recruiting this year!) Heck if I can find out much about their postseason. I think they won.

* The guys listed here are reported offers, not verbals.

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Wayzata beat Osseo 40-7...held Osseo to 162 total yards and had 5 INT's...Troup had a 31 yard TD reception. Wayzata plays Champlin Park on Friday in the section Finals...I don't see how Champlin Park hangs around in this one.

For the season, in 7 games, A.J. Troup has 22 receptions for 386 yards and 4 TD's...for the season Grant Olson, in 8 games, has 89 tackles, 19 TFL's, 3 Sacks, 2 INT, 2 FF, and 1 TD.

Rosemount plays Eastview this coming Friday in the Section Finals, Eastview beat them earlier this season 13-10, so should be a good game...Vraa on the season has 32 receptions for 625 yards and 11 TD's. Not a clue about Busher's...

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Originally Posted by tony

Wasn't sure where to put this, but playoffs are going on.

Since there are NDSU verbals, offers, and potential recruits in the play-offs, here it is in Football.

North Dakota

Ryan Smith: we know he had a good day in the quarterfinal win against St. Mary's (6 TDs and 3 2-point conversions). No idea what his total yardage was.
Esley Thorton: He went 4-5 passing and rushed 6 times for 69 yards in Bismarck's quarterfinal win over Fargo North.
Jake Miller: Not a verbal, no idea where he is on NDSU's recruiting radar, but he rushed 11 times for 142 yards and caught a 65-yard TD pass.
Tyler Gefroh: His team lost by 1 in the quarterfinals in a defensive battle to Bismarck Century. Final score: 7-6.

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I wish that Jake Miller would get on the radar quickly. I've seen some video of him. He's a 'gamer.' Looks like Bison attitude. We 'do not' want UND or SDSU to get him. Not

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Originally Posted by CaBisonFan

I wish that Jake Miller would get on the radar quickly. I've seen some video of him. He's a 'gamer.' Looks like Bison attitude. We 'do not' want UND or SDSU to get him. Not

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The word on Miller is that he is too small for FCS football, but I don't buy that for a second. The BHS roster has him at 5'11", 165 lbs. A kid that is (arguably) the best player on the best team in the state has to be worth an offer. He is an ath-elite.

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The word on Miller is that he is too small for FCS football, but I don't buy that for a second. The BHS roster has him at 5'11", 165 lbs. A kid that is (arguably) the best player on the best team in the state has to be worth an offer. He is an ath-elite.

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I have been watching this kid's stats all year, but I have never seen him play. Is he shifty, fast, powerful, or all of the above? I did some checking to see if he ran track or not and it looks like there is a Jake Miller that is a 1:57 800 runner last year for the Demons. It is a little unique to be a middle distance/running back, but that does not mean anything. It tells me that he is tough and that "pain don't hurt." I just hope that we are giving him a good look. We need to leave no stones unturned.

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I have been watching this kid's stats all year, but I have never seen him play. Is he shifty, fast, powerful, or all of the above? I did some checking to see if he ran track or not and it looks like there is a Jake Miller that is a 1:57 800 runner last year for the Demons. It is a little unique to be a middle distance/running back, but that does not mean anything. It tells me that he is tough and that "pain don't hurt." I just hope that we are giving him a good look. We need to leave no stones unturned.

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I wish I knew more about him. I just know that everytime I go to check on Thorton's stats, I end up saying "Wow, NDSU better be going after Miller too!"

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South Dakota

Trevor Gebhart: His team, Sioux Falls Washington, won 65-0 in the first round of the playoffs. Can't find much at all about the game.
Michael Hardie: His team, Sioux Falls Roosevelt, beat Brookings 37-7. Again, can't find out much about the game.

Wisconsin

Colten Heagle: He didn't play RB until the playoffs but in two playoff games he has a total of 428 yards rushing. He averaged over 17 yard per carry in Kimberly's second-round win. He's a DB recruit so it's encouraging that he scored one of his three TDs on a 55-yard interception.

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Michael Hardie plays for Sioux Falls O'Gorman not Roosevelt. O'Gorman did beat Watertown in their first round action, but I didn't see any stats for Hardie.

This website probably does the best at covering SD high school football.
http://www.ksfypigskinpreview.com/index.html

I feel Miller is worth an offer. He's arguably just as good as Ryan Smith. Miller is pretty quick, great agility and very shifty. Great hands as well.

A lot of exceptional backs in the North Dakota this year. Smith, Miller, and Donte Smart out of Minot I feel could all play at the FCS level

Was out in Bismarck this weekend, and talk to a few people and they said that UND has been talking to Miller. I Hope the Bison don't let this one get away.

I wonder if Donte Smart could play in the secondary - he certainly has the speed.

Miller is to UND, pretty much done deal. I've heard from people I know, we never offered.

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Originally Posted by JacksFan06

Michael Hardie plays for Sioux Falls O'Gorman not Roosevelt. O'Gorman did beat Watertown in their first round action, but I didn't see any stats for Hardie.

This website probably does the best at covering SD high school football.
http://www.ksfypigskinpreview.com/index.html

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Did you happen to see that Watertown converted their starting guard (yep, offensive guard) to QB and the kid actually had a decent game. NDSU should be all over that kid. We could use a lineman/QB. Well I'd just take a QB.

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Originally Posted by FarSouth Bison

Was out in Bismarck this weekend, and talk to a few people and they said that UND has been talking to Miller. I Hope the Bison don't let this one get away.

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We can't offer everyone out of ND. Plus we have too many other holes on our team to waste more on another RB, especially one that maybe looks like a role player type of a back at 165lbs...

Gebhart of SF Washington had 1 TD catch and 2 passes defended in less than 1 Qtr. of play. Washington was leading 31-0 4 minutes into the game!
Washington 65 Rapid City Douglas 0.

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Originally Posted by 4mcrue

Miller is to UND, pretty much done deal. I've heard from people I know, we never offered.

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that's what I've heard too

The last undersized back out of Bismarck we didnt recuit ended up doing pretty well up north, then further north! Ive been watching Miller for the last two years. He is a player and will excel at the next level. Backs at the FCS level dont have to be 6' 200 pounds. Look at the little frosh at UNI! I hope our staff was interested, at least until Smith signed. If not they are clueless!

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Originally Posted by bisonmike2

Did you happen to see that Watertown converted their starting guard (yep, offensive guard) to QB and the kid actually had a decent game. NDSU should be all over that kid. We could use a lineman/QB. Well I'd just take a QB.

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OK, time for open try-outs, we need; QB, Kicker, Linebacker(s), DB(s), WR(s), two Turtle Doves and a Partridge in a .... maybe we could make this into a song?

You can watch Michael Hardie playing right now against Roosevelt at argusleader.com.

http://www.argusleader.com/article/9...mplate=mogulus

you cant compare miller and dressler--- dressler ran a 10.44 100meters and miller doesnt run the 100 cause he isnt fast enough

From the sound of it, with the freshman we ahve redshirting right now and the guys coming up from HS we might have a pretty good looking set of receivers in a season or two. Hopefully one of the QBs we've got waiting in the wings can get the ball where it needs to go - but between Gebhart catching the ball for 900 yards a game, Ryan Smith running the Boston Marathon every other game and Esley Thorton looking all-world I'm very positive about the future of NDSU football.

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Originally Posted by westnodak93bison

you cant compare miller and dressler--- dressler ran a 10.44 100meters and miller doesnt run the 100 cause he isnt fast enough

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Well, anybody who runs a 1:57 800 like Miller has darn good wheels (heck, get him here on a track schollie!) That said, if NDSU doesn't offer him, I'll understand - I mean, both UND and NDSU offered Smith very, very early so they both must have seen something. I just have a feeling Miller will be good wherever he ends up.

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Well, anybody who runs a 1:57 800 like Miller has darn good wheels (heck, get him here on a track schollie!) That said, if NDSU doesn't offer him, I'll understand - I mean, both UND and NDSU offered Smith very, very early so they both must have seen something. I just have a feeling Miller will be good wherever he ends up.

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I have never seen either Miller or Smith play, but, from what I have heard, they are very similar backs with their physical abilities. My best guess is, it was going to be either Smith or it was going to be Miller. It's tough to justify signing 2 very similar RB's when you have DJ, Voight, Sigers, and Ojuri already competing for carries come next season.

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Originally Posted by BisonNolesFan77

I have never seen either Miller or Smith play, but, from what I have heard, they are very similar backs with their physical abilities. My best guess is, it was going to be either Smith or it was going to be Miller. It's tough to justify signing 2 very similar RB's when you have DJ, Voight, Sigers, and Ojuri already competing for carries come next season.

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That was my exact point. We have too many other holes on this team to worry about getting another similar RB in this class.

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Originally Posted by BisonNolesFan77

I have never seen either Miller or Smith play, but, from what I have heard, they are very similar backs with their physical abilities. My best guess is, it was going to be either Smith or it was going to be Miller. It's tough to justify signing 2 very similar RB's when you have DJ, Voight, Sigers, and Ojuri already competing for carries come next season.

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Right on, and Smith's speed pushed him to the top.

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Originally Posted by bisonmike2

Did you happen to see that Watertown converted their starting guard (yep, offensive guard) to QB and the kid actually had a decent game. NDSU should be all over that kid. We could use a lineman/QB. Well I'd just take a QB.

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It wasn't by choice. Injuries ended the season for the starter and the backup and I think another backup may've been out, too. Our coaches were doing Saturday at the Improv. Oddly enough, the Arrows played quite well but perhaps that because it would be impossible to accurately scout the Arrows this year. We have good coaches but this is really a down year for the Arrows -- down in numbers, talent, size, you name it.

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It wasn't by choice. Injuries ended the season for the starter and the backup and I think another backup may've been out, too. Our coaches were doing Saturday at the Improv. Oddly enough, the Arrows played quite well but perhaps that because it would be impossible to accurately scout the Arrows this year. We have good coaches but this is really a down year for the Arrows -- down in numbers, talent, size, you name it.

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The Arrows head coach is an old O'Gorman assistant isn't he? I haven't paid that much attention to the Arrows in recent years as most of my friends younger brothers have all graduated H.S. now.

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Originally Posted by westnodak93bison

you cant compare miller and dressler--- dressler ran a 10.44 100meters and miller doesnt run the 100 cause he isnt fast enough

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Anyone know what Dressler's 40 time was/is?
Shawn-O, maybe?
There's a kid that overcame the sterotype of being "too small" and offset it with speed, good routes, good hands, and determination. Good career thus far in the CFL, that's for sure.

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Originally Posted by IzzyFlexion

Anyone know what Dressler's 40 time was/is?
Shawn-O, maybe?
There's a kid that overcame the sterotype of being "too small" and offset it with speed, good routes, good hands, and determination. Good career thus far in the CFL, that's for sure.

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3.87.....that's what I heard, anyway.

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Originally Posted by IzzyFlexion

Anyone know what Dressler's 40 time was/is?
Shawn-O, maybe?
There's a kid that overcame the sterotype of being "too small" and offset it with speed, good routes, good hands, and determination. Good career thus far in the CFL, that's for sure.

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Here's a little digging in the Bison Media Blog, take it for what it's worth:

http://www.areavoices.com/bisonmedia...nts&blog=23643

Thanks, gotts.
And you too, Notorious. I'll assume that the 3.87 that you mentioned was with a 142 mph tailwind.:p

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Originally Posted by IzzyFlexion

Anyone know what Dressler's 40 time was/is?
Shawn-O, maybe?
There's a kid that overcame the sterotype of being "too small" and offset it with speed, good routes, good hands, and determination. Good career thus far in the CFL, that's for sure.

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I have on good authority that he was "Consistently a 4.3 guy". I cannot believe we missed on him.

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Originally Posted by Notorious

3.87.....that's what I heard, anyway.

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If it's 3.87 the guy with the stop watch had to have been around a .387 BAC.

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Originally Posted by Bison06

I have on good authority that he was "Consistently a 4.3 guy". I cannot believe we missed on him.

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Is it a "miss" or did UND just "score"? Speed doesn't make you a great football player, maybe he just developed nicely. For example, look at Colt McCoy, a lot of people didn't think he'd even make it at Texas...

I'm surprised we haven't done any screen passes or anything to Shamen this year(that I remember off the top of my head?). If he really has 4.3x speed, and what seems like absurd cutting ability, we need to get him the ball, and let him do something with it...

I heard Dressler had 2.8 speed in the 40, but UND made him do it in hockey skates, so it was only a 4.3. Otherwise, I think he might be in the NFL.

get this thread off of that non-sense.

Wahp is playing their game (with ryan smith) in the Fargodome.

Minnesota AA games will be in Fargodome on friday.

Its playoff time!

Lets go South Bruins+++