San Diego Week Discussion Thread

[gumby013]

Round Two discussion starts here.

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[gumby013]

Game notes from their matchup with Cal Poly last night.

http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/usd/sports/m-footbl/auto_pdf/2016-17/release/release_20161122aaa.pdf

[tony]

As a team, San Diego leads the Pioneer in scoring offense, scoring defense, total offense, total defense, rushing defense, pass defense, pass efficiency, pass defense efficiency, sacks, opponent first downs, 3rd down conversions, 4th down conversions, and time of possession.

Individually, their RB Jonah Hodges averages 6.5 ypc. Their QB Anthony Lawrence has completed 68.9% of his passes. Their TE, Ross Dwelley, leads the team in receptions (2nd in the conference too.)

On the flip side, a torero would have no chance against a bison in the bullfighting ring because, not only are bison much bigger than bulls, they also pivot on their front legs rather than their back so they are much quicker.

Doesn't look like USD stretches the field all that much and their QB doesn't run (his longest run of the season is 6 yards.) They do have the ingredients for pulling the upset - they control the ball and have a good defense. That said, NDSU is going to be a monumental favorite... but then NDSU was a monumental favorite against a different USD last year.

Glad NDSU doesn't have to play an option team this week.

[BisoninNWMN]

No rain to help neutralize the running game.

Bison pound this team.

[BisonCardinal]

NCAA 2015 Avg Attendance

NDSU - 18,496
San Diego - 2,307

Probably haven't had this much of a playoff "home field" advantage since Robert Morris (1,545).

[VirginiaBison]

Looks like the perfect trap game to me.

[sbark]

Just gotta be scared of that "west coast speed"..........:)

[G_Funky]

i really hope Klieman's "just happy to be here" mentality gets thrown out the window and they curb stomp this team.


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[El_Chapo]

ill be selling my tickets. what an embarassment the fcs is. this team couldnt beat moorhead state.

[southcliffbison]

After the embarrassment of Weber State and now Cal Poly yesterday, the Pig Sty Conference is showing its true colors.

[BisoninNWMN]

Looks like the perfect trap game to me.

Doubt it.

If the Bison cannot line up and pound this undersized team into the turf, then they do not deserve to win.

USD's lines are totally undersized and NDSU better be able to pound them into the ground.

[Mr Meaty]

Object number one is to win this game
#2 build some more confidence by executing the game plan in all aspects
#3 make a statement for the next game and rest of the playoffs
#4 get out of it healthy
Just win baby

[G_Funky]

Doubt it.

If the Bison cannot line up and pound this undersized team into the turf, then they do not deserve to win.

USD's lines are totally undersized and NDSU better be able to pound them into the ground.

This should be a "blood in the water" type game. There should be no getting back into the flow or feeling the other team out. This whole week of practice should culminate in a total display of dominance from the opening kickoff on Saturday.

San Diego shouldn't even smell a glimmer of hope.


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[EC8CH]

A terero is a rolled stuffed taco filled primarily with meat from a whale's vagaina.

[WFBisonFan]

I'm excited to see what this years version of the Bison in the playoffs looks like. On paper this definitely has the making of a complete blowout with how we match up. Time to get back to playing Bison football the way it was meant to be played: Running the ball at will and playing solid defense and ST.

Bison 45
Toreros 10

[BisonTeacher]

A terero is a rolled stuffed taco filled primarily with meat from a whale's vagaina.


Whammy!!!!

[Vet70]

Nationally they have some good stats, but then again their major competition was in the Pioneer League. They were impressive at times against Poly, but if we can't roll these guys we don't have a prayer against the rest of the playoff field.

[StL Bison Fan]

They have never been to the dome. They should see the sights when they arrive.
Because first order of business for the Bison should be Don't. Let. Them. Hang. Around.

[td577]

Nationally they have some good stats, but then again their major competition was in the Pioneer League. They were impressive at times against Poly, but if we can't roll these guys we don't have a prayer against the rest of the playoff field.

I thought they played a good game against Cal Poly, but then Cal Poly is a good team, not a great one. I fully expect NDSU to come out, take care of business, and take care of it early. Get guys that need a break a break, simply execute their offense and move the chains, finish drives with points, and play tough defense. There is no reason this game shouldn't be over by halftime or soon after and Coach K get playoff reps for guys deeper on the depth chart. Anything less than a 3 score game will be a disappointment. Not because USD is a bad team, because a focused Bison team should have no problem with this game. Anything less than 3 scores would have me worried this team is not looking at what is in front of them right now. We haven't seen that in the playoff Bison in the past, so I don't expect to start seeing it now. A PL school taking out the #1 seed would be a monumental upset and I don't expect for it to happen this week. You are spot on, if we can't roll these guys, there are lot of things to really worry about.

[tony]

For reference:

WR 2 RILEY, Brian 6-3 200
LT 55 McARDLE, Miles 6-3 290
LG 56 PROVENCIO, T 6-1 315
C 68 HURNEY, Joe 6-1 280
RG 53 ARLOTTI, Jake 6-2 285
RT 75 COONEY, Daniel 6-8 315
TE 85 DWELLEY, Ross 6-5 240
QB 18 LAWRENCE, A 6-1 195
FB 49 MALEPEAI, Fia 5-9 215
RB 29 HODGES, Jonah 5-10 194
WR 8 PRIEST, Justin 6-3- 208


LE 93 HAMMITT, S 6-1 235
DT 91 LAUT, Aaron 6-2 240
NT 94 SMITH, Jalen 6-3 280
RE 95 PETERSEN, Jon 6-1 230
LB 59 MICHAELS, Max 5-9 190
LB 46 MORENO, Alec 6-2 215
LB 43 HENSON, Nic 6-2 220
LCB 26 AGNEW, Jamal 5-10 193
FS 28 CLARK, Ray 5-11 195
SS 21 GIORGI, Colton 6-1 210
RCB 3 BRYANT, Devyn 5-11 193

Small DL, tall WRs.

Time to activate playoff mode.

[BisoninNWMN]

A DL that averages 246 lbs.......:judges:

[scottietohottie]

Whammy!!!!

Delicious but filling.

[thebigund]

A DL that averages 246 lbs.......:judges:

Reminds me of Chuck South.....

[scottietohottie]

Reminds me of Chuck South.....

My Spidey sense is tingling

[tony]

A DL that averages 246 lbs.......:judges:

Yeah, just like Charleston Southern - and they weren't quite as helpless as fans were thinking.

That said, the thing I admire most about those SE teams is how they make tackles even when they are being blocked really well - they just find a way to get it done. California teams have never played NDSU like that.

[scottietohottie]

I love lamp.

[tjbison]

well, if we are being nice and let them stay in the game it could be a fight, if we get off our ass and blow them out in the first qtr and don't let off the gas, go into a bullshit prevent Defense its a blowout

[Vet70]

Reminds me of Chuck South.....

I seriously doubt that SD is used to getting smashed in the mouth. I'll say it again, if we can't roll this team I don't see us winning anything.

[SDbison]

I seriously doubt that SD is used to getting smashed in the mouth. I'll say it again, if we can't roll this team I don't see us winning anything. I agree. Just don't understand why the NCAA couldn't make an exception for non-scholarship football programs and let them play DII level. They don't belong in DI FCS. Of course, this is the "we don't give a shit about FCS" NCAA as long as it does not effect their precious FBS teams.

[MNLonghorn10]

I agree. Just don't understand why the NCAA couldn't make an exception for non-scholarship football programs and let them play DII level. They don't belong in DI FCS. Of course, this is the "we don't give a shit about FCS" NCAA as long as it does not effect their precious FBS teams.

can you blame them? I mean i know we're splitting hairs between tens of thousands of dollars that the FBS brings in compared to FCS...but 40 grand is 40 grand.

[NDSU1980]

Reminds me of Chuck South.....

Go Richmond

[bisonaudit]

The next thing you know, all the big time FCS teams are going to refuse to schedule a runty little upstart like San Diego.

[CaBisonFan]

Non-scholarship team that gives Merit Scholarships to anyone they choose.

[X-Factor]

Reminds me of Chuck South.....

I was just going to say that. And even more importantly if they plan to cut block our lineman like Chuck South did. Klieman wasn't very happy with that. Hope they plan for it...

[VirginiaBison]

I checked out 5 games on espn. A lot of empty and half empty stadiums. Not much in gate $$ it would appear.

[G_Funky]

Reminds me of Chuck South.....

Chuck South sees a pretty stout offense everyday in practice.

i don't see SD having a ton of success trying to simulate the physicality this game has in store for them.


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[G_Funky]

I was just going to say that. And even more importantly if they plan to cut block our lineman like Chuck South did. Klieman wasn't very happy with that. Hope they plan for it...

attack the edges and allow our guards and fullbacks to lead the way.

play action will rip them. their LBs are going to have to fill hard downhill if they have any chance of stopping the run. suck the LBs in and throw over the top.

they do have a corner that is a pretty solid tackler. i think he is number 28 or 29. he made some really nice plays on the edge taking out the pitchman for substantial losses. they'll need to account for him on the edge as he won't be a speed bump.


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[Bison 4 Life]

I checked out 5 games on espn. A lot of empty and half empty stadiums. Not much in gate $$ it would appear.

That's what the guarantees are for. The NCAA doesn't care how many people show up.

[G_Funky]

the tone change over on sdsufans is hysterical.

they've gone from through the roof confident to all of a sudden sulking away because ndsu is playing san diego.

if they get past nova and we get past san diego and they come up and get beat, they'll no doubt point the finger at the fact that we played a pl team in the second round


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[NDSUBowler]

Man, we have to play USD in back to back games?! I call shenanigans!

[NDSUBowler]

Does USD have a fan board? Will a USD fan sign up for BV this week? Has anyone ever seen a USD fan?

[scottietohottie]

Does USD have a fan board? Will a USD fan sign up for BV this week? Has anyone ever seen a USD fan?

http://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/20bd07dcd0cc425bc6c681616327e6fde608cc60/c=56-0-905-638&r=x483&c=640x480/local/-/media/2016/07/11/LAGroup/Shreveport/636038620650663176-11049592-641126215990870-552593433896747231-n.jpg

[BisonAccountant44]

Does USD have a fan board? Will a USD fan sign up for BV this week? Has anyone ever seen a USD fan?
I know one of their position coaches. Can't say much else about the team though.

[Vet70]

Does USD have a fan board? Will a USD fan sign up for BV this week? Has anyone ever seen a USD fan?

After several minutes of searching this is the only one I could find.
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/52/10/81/521081abf564ca674e4046f0b4845eec.jpg

[HerdBoy]

A terero is a rolled stuffed taco filled primarily with meat from a whale's vagaina.

http://i1204.photobucket.com/albums/bb403/JKJP1920/576_zpseay9iajm.gif

[BisoninNWMN]

Yeah, just like Charleston Southern - and they weren't quite as helpless as fans were thinking.

That said, the thing I admire most about those SE teams is how they make tackles even when they are being blocked really well - they just find a way to get it done. California teams have never played NDSU like that.


Well then I suppose we are going to win this in OT then.

[NDSUstudent]

Does USD have a fan board? Will a USD fan sign up for BV this week? Has anyone ever seen a USD fan?

Their used to be a ton of them on AGS when Harbaugh was the coach. They would start thread after thread demanding they be let into the playoffs.

[ZHerd]

We'll see 1) if the "playoff" Bison show up and 2) how good the USD passing game is. I don't trust this Bison team to win games big because the offense folds like a wet napkin for the second half of games. Also, the pass D has improved some but not a lot. Good passing teams will give our D problems. It depends on how talented USD is, I pretty much know nothing about them. The size of their lines doesn't matter to me, it's not an indicator of how good their players or scheme are. We should win handily but this team struggles to put teams away

[Wally]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwAlAzxpAiM



interview on Dan Patrick

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ts-cdOFly6w

[Bison 4 Life]

We'll see 1) if the "playoff" Bison show up and 2) how good the USD passing game is. I don't trust this Bison team to win games big because the offense folds like a wet napkin for the second half of games. Also, the pass D has improved some but not a lot. Good passing teams will give our D problems. It depends on how talented USD is, I pretty much know nothing about them. The size of their lines doesn't matter to me, it's not an indicator of how good their players or scheme are. We should win handily but this team struggles to put teams away

It doesn't have to. I think this whole season has been a result of mishandling and bad game planning by the coaches.

Sure there's some experience gap but we cant' just jump on everybody in the 1st quarter and then let off because of inexperience.

[gizmo]

This is the most important game of the year.

[ZHerd]

It doesn't have to. I think this whole season has been a result of mishandling and bad game planning by the coaches.

Sure there's some experience gap but we cant' just jump on everybody in the 1st quarter and then let off because of inexperience.

I agree, I think most teams are out coaching us in 2nd halves, especially on offense. Our O coaches (or maybe some key players...or both) seem to have no ability to adjust to other teams or adjust to their adjustments. The defense is better in this regards.

[EC8CH]

Turnovers and penalties stalled scoring in the second half against USD. Don't know what coaching has to do with that.

[ZHerd]

Turnovers and penalties stalled scoring in the second half against USD. Don't know what coaching has to do with that.

Offense has been a pretty big fail in 2nd half of most games this year, not just USD

[tjbison]

the tone change over on sdsufans is hysterical.

they've gone from through the roof confident to all of a sudden sulking away because ndsu is playing san diego.

if they get past nova and we get past san diego and they come up and get beat, they'll no doubt point the finger at the fact that we played a pl team in the second round


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That's why 6ou shoot for a #1 seed.....

[tjbison]

I'm just waiting for our own Mr. Burgundy to chime in


:biggrin:

[GOBISON123]

[QUOC8CH;1176639]Turnovers and penalties stalled scoring in the second half against USD. Don't know what coaching has to do with that.[/QUOTE]

Mark Farley on Monday after playing us provided a very good explanation for what we were doing offensively, why it worked in the 1st half, what adjustments they made in the 2nd half, and how they were able to stop our offense in 2nd half etc. We are

[X-Factor]

Man, we have to play USD in back to back games?! I call shenanigans!

I can't wait for the GDT and post-game threads, then someone bumps the old and now we can't tell which is which!

[Bisonwinagn]

Doubt it.

If the Bison cannot line up and pound this undersized team into the turf, then they do not deserve to win.

USD's lines are totally undersized and NDSU better be able to pound them into the ground.

You've had this same fucking comment against every team we've played this year starting with horribly small CSU and no way they can stop anyone with those small defensive line. Hahhahahah

[BisonHorns]

Seems like we have more penalties and turn overs in the second half of games. That kills the offensive production. I am hoping there is some saved stuff that will only come out if we need it.

[Bison bison]

why cant we be friends? why cant we be friends? why cant we be friends, why cant we be friends?

[Bison 4 Life]

Hat tip to Bisonation.info for the screen cap. Looks like one of their young coaches got jumpy then later deleted this Tweet.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CyTXy39UsAAxofr.jpg

[BisoninNWMN]

You've had this same fucking comment against every team we've played this year starting with horribly small CSU and no way they can stop anyone with those small defensive line. Hahhahahah


Still ran for 230 dumbass....:rofl:

[Vet70]

You've had this same fucking comment against every team we've played this year starting with horribly small CSU and no way they can stop anyone with those small defensive line. Hahhahahah

Different situation, CSU had southern speed (unless Southern California counts ).

[Bison 4 Life]

Still ran for 230 dumbass....:rofl:

http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/353/279/e31.jpg


Weak, but we're on a Ron Burgundy theme this week.

[td577]

Seems like we have more penalties and turn overs in the second half of games. That kills the offensive production. I am hoping there is some saved stuff that will only come out if we need it.

In our last 8 games, in all but 2 of them we have had at least a 2 score lead going into the 2nd half. I am not saying there is a let down, but I do think it becomes a lot harder at halftime to make a lot of adjustments when what you are doing is working. I think in the past, Carson and Brock had a more diverse skill set you could change a lot more on the fly, as well. I love Easton, but the passing playbook is smaller and the other option is to have him start running. The second option opens up a lot of opportunities for the defense to take a lot of free shots at our QB, so you want to use it sparingly.

I think the playoffs will see more dynamic changes on the fly, if they are necessary, in the second half. There was only one game this season where what the Bison did or didn't do in the second half cost us a game. I don't think Coach K adjusts simply for the sake of adjusting. We got into a lot of scenarios where it was about just killing time. Then there were games where guys deeper in the depth chart were seeing action and making mistakes killing drives. By now, those should be cleaned up.

There isn't any program in FCS that is better at preparing for a playoff game than the Bison. We have complained in the past about the regular season Bison making mistakes while the playoff Bison are a completely different animal. There aren't many programs who find a different gear to shift into when there is more on the line, but this one does. Every play always matters, but now, every play matters a little more. I do think the field is catching up, but they don't have that experience yet of withstanding the pressure of needing absolute perfect execution or their season is over. I always look at the playoff field and think every year it gets tougher, but is it tough enough yet.

[NDSUstudent]

Hat tip to Bisonation.info for the screen cap. Looks like one of their young coaches got jumpy then later deleted this Tweet.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CyTXy39UsAAxofr.jpg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8rNb1BAXxU

[56BISON73]

A terero is a rolled stuffed taco filled primarily with meat from a whale's vagaina.

But is it a walking taco ?

[Mr Meaty]

But is it a walking taco ?

I have an idea what it is!!!!!

[VirginiaBison]

But is it a walking taco ?
Actually a torero is an encompassing bullfighting term that includes bullfighters such as the picadores, rejoneadores, banderilleros and the matador.
"Matador" is the specific torero who performs the final passes and actually kills the bull.

[runtheoption]

Actually a torero is an encompassing bullfighting term that includes bullfighters such as the picadores, rejoneadores, banderilleros and the matador.
"Matador" is the specific torero who performs the final passes and actually kills the bull.

What is the name of the guy that cleans up the bullshit? Tony?

[El_Chapo]

wont be there, 1st playoff game ill miss, im not wasting my time with a non scholly d2 team. the FCS is dead, only 3-4 good teams

[Thumper 76]

Glad you guys get a post playoff bye scrimmage to knock the rust off before playing tough teams.


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[Bisonator98]

Glad you guys get a post playoff bye scrimmage to knock the rust off before playing tough teams.


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Maybe you should just worry about Villanova. Try not to trip over your feet again. ;)

[Thumper 76]

Maybe you should just worry about Villanova. Try not to trip over your feet again. ;)

I am worried about Nova, that's why I'm jealous. A pioneer team to start the playoffs? Good lord that must be nice lol


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[EC8CH]

Glad you guys get a post playoff bye scrimmage to knock the rust off before playing tough teams.


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You're joking right? These guys took down Cal Poly. Have you heard of them?

[BisonHorns]

I hope Brookings is freezing with blowing snow and has a tiny crowd. That is the way football is meant to be played. Oh yeah, I hope Villinova plays dirty like the rabbits do.

[Bisonator98]

I am worried about Nova, that's why I'm jealous. A pioneer team to start the playoffs? Good lord that must be nice lol


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Well that's what happens when you don't trip over your own feet like your boys seem to do every year. You had a great opportunity to have a top seed this year then you lost to the team that just lost to a non scholly in the PO's and another one who finished 6-6.:rofl:

[Thumper 76]

Well that's what happens when you don't trip over your own feet like your boys seem to do every year. You had a great opportunity to have a top seed this year then you lost to the team that just lost to a non scholly in the PO's and another one who finished 6-6.:rofl:

Which means you lost to the team that lost to those teams, so there's that I guess


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[MNLonghorn10]

Which means you lost to the team that lost to those teams, so there's that I guess


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yea yea, we know...your biggest win in program history.

[EC8CH]

Which means you lost to the team that lost to those teams, so there's that I guess


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When the team you beat, beats Michigan it helps soothe that burn.

[Thumper 76]

yea yea, we know...your biggest win in program history.

Was more pointing out that the transitive property is kind of dumb.


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[Vet70]

Which means you lost to the team that lost to those teams, so there's that I guess


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Next thing you know you will be bragging about all of your national championships. Oh, wait---

[tjbison]

When the team you beat, beats Michigan it helps soothe that burn.

and you beat the number 2 seed already also

[DakotaOkie]

Which means you lost to the team that lost to those teams, so there's that I guess

And who beat Iowa who beat Michigan (who should have beaten Ohio State). Looks like U of San Diego should simply play Alabama and eliminate all of this suspense 'cuz it appears they are capable based on college football transitive comparisons. Good thing none of that matters in a real playoff tournament. Next weekend's games are going to be interesting all around.

[Thumper 76]

Next thing you know you will be bragging about all of your national championships. Oh, wait---

Jesus you guys are sensitive. One comment about this being an easy draw and tampon strings are on fire lol


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[Bison56]

Shouldn't even have to throw a pass.

[Green1]

Jesus you guys are sensitive. One comment about this being an easy draw and tampon strings are on fire lol


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We are in playoff mode.

[MNLonghorn10]

Was more pointing out that the transitive property is kind of dumb.


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wont be so dumb when San Diego takes out NDSU next week

[EC8CH]

wont be so dumb when San Diego takes out NDSU next week

Won't Michigan feel foolish.

Some how if that happens it would feel like an evil plan laid out by Kaki Pants himself.

[Vet70]

Average attendance for SD games was 2,864. I hope the Dome is rocking.

[Bisonator98]

Which means you lost to the team that lost to those teams, so there's that I guess


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Which has nothing to do with what I said. Had you turds not lost to ISUr and fricking CP you could have been a top 2 seed and probably playing SD. No one to blame but yourselves. Now go eat some lettuce or carrots and jack off.:biggrin:

[HerdBot]

Average attendance for SD games was 2,864. I hope the Dome is rocking.

This is the type of game that fans can shell shock the shit out of them. You have loud and then you have playoff loud.

[Bisonguy]

Which has nothing to do with what I said. Had you turds not lost to ISUr and fricking CP you could have been a top 2 seed and probably playing SD. No one to blame but yourselves. Now go eat some lettuce or carrots and jack off.:biggrin:

Rabbits have that whole coprophagy deal going on, so it's perfectly fine to tell them to eat shit.

[KCTorero]

Torero here. I played there with my last season being in 2002 but I still follow the program. I'm very familar with NDSU as well. I saw you guys beat KU 6-3 in 2009. It's been all uphill since then for you and all downhill for KU.

As for the non-scholarship deal- think Ivy League "non-scholarship" and not DIII non-scholarship.

The big difference here will be up front. USD's skill kids and back 7 on D can play in the Missouri Valley. The lines are where NDSU will have the decided advantage.

The fact that my team plays NDSU in the Dome is a treat in and of itself. I've been a huge fan of what you guys have done. It has taught people what I-AA (It will always be I-AA to me) Football is all about.

Let me know what you want to know about USD.

Thanks.

[KCTorero]

Double post.

[scottietohottie]

Maybe go to SeaWorld, take my pants off.

[Vet70]

Torero here. I played there with my last season being in 2002 but I still follow the program. I'm very familar with NDSU as well. I was you guys beat KU 6-3 in 2009. It's been all uphill since then for you and all downhill for KU.

As for the non-scholarship deal- think Ivy League "non-scholarship" and not DIII non-scholarship.

The big difference here will be up front. USD's skill kids and back 7 on D can played in the Missouri Valley. The lines are where NDSU will have the decided advantage.

The fact that my team plays NDSU in the Dome is a treat in and of itself. I've been a huge fan of what you guys have done. It has taught people what I-AA (It will always be I-AA to me) Football is all about.

Let me know what you want to know about USD.

Thanks.

Welcome. It is pretty clear to me from watching the game last night that SD is not a typical non-scholasrship team and has some real talent on both sides of the ball.

[Hammerhead]

Which has nothing to do with what I said. Had you turds not lost to ISUr and fricking CP you could have been a top 2 seed and probably playing SD. No one to blame but yourselves. Now go eat some lettuce or carrots and jack off.:biggrin:

Just don't jerk and drive. http://www.argusleader.com/story/news/2014/12/11/jerk-drive-campaign-stirs-discussion/20240607/


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8JvVxvVzww

[MHDBisonfan]

The best part of being a Torero is that win or lose, they get to go home to San Diego!

[El_Chapo]

Average attendance for SD games was 2,864. I hope the Dome is rocking.

It won't be. Will be numerous empty seats, hell we ain't going as a group to watch a non scholly team, just embarrassing what the fcs became from 2010 to today. Boorrrriiinnngggg

[Green1]

Double post.


Welcome to Bisonville. Congratulations to USD on a successful season. Hope to learn more about the Toreros in the coming week.

[gumby013]

Welcome to Bisonville. Congratulations to USD on a successful season. Hope to learn more about the Toreros in the coming week.

It's tough finding info. Their media coverage has been mostly from opposing teams, so doesn't really focus on them.

[gumby013]

San Diego full-game links.

vs Stetson - http://www.wccsports.com/game-center/57a8eaf3e4b0ad0f211d5b1d/

vs Valpo - http://www.wccsports.com/game-center/57a8ea38e4b0ad0f211d5b1c/

vs Davidson - http://www.wccsports.com/game-center/57a8e9c3e4b02fb09dbf1409/

vs Dayton - http://www.wccsports.com/game-center/57a8e983e4b0ad0f211d5b1b/

vs Western New Mexico - http://www.wccsports.com/game-center/57a4e6eee4b06ea4ebf98860/

[BlueBisonRock]

Rabbits have that whole coprophagy deal going on, so it's perfectly fine to tell them to eat shit.

:bunnyb: :omfg:

[CAS4127]

I anticipate a close game. It's just how the Bison are this year. We can beat everyone or lose to anyone--not a dominant team at all.

As for the discussion about 2nd half offensive adjustments and not really making any or having no reason to because we are up by a couple scores going into the half, we should be anticipating what adjustments our opponent will make and be ready, but we haven't done that at all, and not sure if we are capable. All the opponent needs to do is keep score within striking distance in first half and they will be in the game at the end.


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[Thumper 76]

Now go eat some lettuce or carrots and jack off.:biggrin:

My morning routine is none of your business sir


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[ZHerd]

Game to look at is probably the first Cal Poly matchup which was second game, back when Poly was playing well. Game was basically neck and neck at halftime. USD put together a couple of nice scoring drives with a balanced attack, and their RB Hodges averaged over 7ypc for the game. Second half poly found a way to shut down the USD offense and the poly triple option took control of the game turning it into an easy win. If Poly's D was able to figure them out they are probably in trouble vs the Bison. USD dominated their conference, most of the scores being lopsided. They certainly know how to win. I doubt they can compete for a whole game with NDSU but dont expect them to lay down or quit. They are use to winning

[onbison09]

WTF do we expect their coaches to tweet? "Off to North Dakota to get our ass beat Saturday?" That tweet was fine.

[ndsubison1]

I anticipate a close game. It's just how the Bison are this year. We can beat everyone or lose to anyone--not a dominant team at all.

As for the discussion about 2nd half offensive adjustments and not really making any or having no reason to because we are up by a couple scores going into the half, we should be anticipating what adjustments our opponent will make and be ready, but we haven't done that at all, and not sure if we are capable. All the opponent needs to do is keep score within striking distance in first half and they will be in the game at the end.


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We had chances to blowout UNI and USD in 2nd half, but didn't extend lead. Instead we let them back in it. Definitely a cause for concern.

[ZHerd]

We had chances to blowout UNI and USD in 2nd half, but didn't extend lead. Instead we let them back in it. Definitely a cause for concern.

Those aren't the only two, it's a season long trend. Here is what the offense has done over the second half of some of our conference games: USD-7pts, ISU-B 7pts (though that one was over by half), YSU- 7pts, WIU-0pts (very lucky to not lose that one), SDSU-7 pts(lost the game), ISU-R 3pts. That is an average of 5.2 second half points or 2.6pts per quarter after halftime. Complete offensive ineptitude after halftime with one blown game and a number almost blown. If this doesn't change there won't be a 6-peat

[56BISON73]

Those aren't the only two, it's a season long trend. Here is what the offense has done over the second half of some of our conference games: USD-7pts, ISU-B 7pts (though that one was over by half), YSU- 7pts, WIU-0pts (very lucky to not lose that one), SDSU-7 pts(lost the game), ISU-R 3pts. That is an average of 5.2 second half points or 2.6pts per quarter after halftime. Complete offensive ineptitude after halftime with one blown game and a number almost blown. If this doesn't change there won't be a 6-peat

:judges::bow:

[Buffalo.Rider]

USD's lines are totally undersized and NDSU better be able to pound them into the ground.

Other posts have provided heights/weights of SD's starters.
They have a Freshman who is 6-7 and 370 pounds. This ain't undersized.

[gumby013]

Other posts have provided heights/weights of SD's starters.
They have a Freshman who is 6-7 and 370 pounds. This ain't undersized.

6-3 370

http://www.usdtoreros.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/marcus_goforth_1015739.html

http://www.hudl.com/video/3/1557199/5721cfce0c5e681224a896f1

[Bisonator98]

I'm not concerned about this game. If we can't control this game and win by more than 2 TDs against a non scholly we don't deserve to keep playing. This game should not be in doubt.

[Bison 4 Life]

WTF do we expect their coaches to tweet? "Off to North Dakota to get our ass beat Saturday?" That tweet was fine.

you're supposed to be a grown up. Don't.

Of course I think this kid is 23 or so but come on, snapchat it or something.

[SDbison]

Those aren't the only two, it's a season long trend. Here is what the offense has done over the second half of some of our conference games: USD-7pts, ISU-B 7pts (though that one was over by half), YSU- 7pts, WIU-0pts (very lucky to not lose that one), SDSU-7 pts(lost the game), ISU-R 3pts. That is an average of 5.2 second half points or 2.6pts per quarter after halftime. Complete offensive ineptitude after halftime with one blown game and a number almost blown. If this doesn't change there won't be a 6-peat Great post. This deserves some discussion at Bisonville. What is the problem and why don't the coaches see it, or correct it? In some ways the Bison are fortunate to have only one loss the way 2nd halves have been played.

[BisoninNWMN]

Those aren't the only two, it's a season long trend. Here is what the offense has done over the second half of some of our conference games: USD-7pts, ISU-B 7pts (though that one was over by half), YSU- 7pts, WIU-0pts (very lucky to not lose that one), SDSU-7 pts(lost the game), ISU-R 3pts. That is an average of 5.2 second half points or 2.6pts per quarter after halftime. Complete offensive ineptitude after halftime with one blown game and a number almost blown. If this doesn't change there won't be a 6-peat


Good post!!

2nd halves have not been very productive offensively.

[scottietohottie]

I don't know if you heard me counting. I did over a thousand.

[Bison03]

Non-scholarship team, first time in the dome, playoff mode for the team and fans. I think we win easily if we do what we do best.

[CAS4127]

Great post. This deserves some discussion at Bisonville. What is the problem and why don't the coaches see it, or correct it? In some ways the Bison are fortunate to have only one loss the way 2nd halves have been played.

Maybe we are getting worn down rather than opponent???


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[THEsocalledfan]

Interesting read. Couple points I think need to be highlighted:

1. Our friend from SD made clear this is not a DIII type of team; more like Ivy League. With that said, I'd like to understand how that works assuming these kids are getting scholarships that are not for athletics per see. Top Ivy League teams are clearly in the top 25 of FCS. And the little I saw of the game, I saw some skill on that team. How exactly to scholarships work at places like this?

2. Has NDSU been holding back? I've always had the impression, NDSU pulls our all the stops when the PO start. For example, let's face it, Easton is a better runner than a thrower. Will they run him with reckless abandon risking injury?

Just some thoughts for discussion. (For the record, NDSU should be able to control the LOS, particularly when on offense.)

[Bisonator98]

Combination of things IMO. We've had second half leads and gone too conservative with the play calling. Lack of execution, turnovers, penalties. Not making proper adjustments or adjusting to the opponents adjustments. Our third down efficiency on both sides of the ball has been bad all season. Too many third and longs offensively and that comes down to all of the things mentioned previously. Coaches need to do a better job of putting the players in situations to be successful and the players need to do a better job at executing on the field. Not to mention all of the injuries and lets not forget a pretty young team overall this year. Still this years team is right there with the previous squads. Maybe not quite as good but still pretty dang good. Maybe they won't win it all this year but maybe just maybe they will. Enjoy the ride!

[TransAmBison]

Glad you guys get two post playoff bye scrimmage to knock the rust off before playing tough teams.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkFixed your post. I mean, SDSU in the playoffs...that is practically a bye week in the FCS. :)

[NDSUstudent]

Not sure there is an easy answer to our second half woes.

Against SDSU I felt like it was more coaching but against USD I thought it was more on the players not executing.

Crazy how the team played so well in the second half against Iowa, so they are clearly capable.

[SDbison]

Not sure there is an easy answer to our second half woes.

Against SDSU I felt like it was more coaching but against USD I thought it was more on the players not executing.

Crazy how the team played so well in the second half against Iowa, so they are clearly capable. With Iowa there was obvious motivation. Is there lack of motivation / discipline to put the hammer down and finish off teams? Maybe like CAS said this team is not as well conditioned later in the season as compared to previous teams. Other than the USD game where mistakes and lack of execution led to stalled drives, the blame mostly lies with the coaches. Ultra conservative calls (dives) and foolish risky plays seem to occur too often in the second half. What would help is some play variation that is slightly different mixed in with plays that work. Keep the other team guessing. The coaches must lead the effort to keep a team motivated, keep them in condition, and keep them at a high level to assure plays are properly executed.

[KCTorero]

Interesting read. Couple points I think need to be highlighted:

1. Our friend from SD made clear this is not a DIII type of team; more like Ivy League. With that said, I'd like to understand how that works assuming these kids are getting scholarships that are not for athletics per see. Top Ivy League teams are clearly in the top 25 of FCS. And the little I saw of the game, I saw some skill on that team. How exactly to scholarships work at places like this?



I can't give you the type of detailed information that a member of the staff could but I can tell you that it is a tricky process (giving athletes aid) at the "non scholarship" I-AA level. It's essentially a balancing act whereas you can't make it look like athletes are getting preferential treatment. But make no mistake- athletes in the Pioneer league aren't treated like the rest of the student body when it comes to admission and financial aid. If they were treated like the average student then there is no way San Diego would have curb stomped Call Poly like they did. It should be noted that both Jacksonville and San Diego have had to forfit league titles (and playoff bids) during the last few years because of financial aid issues. It's not easy to handle aid at this level.

At the end of the day I don't believe San Diego has much of a chance against NDSU but they aren't going to trot out a bunch of Rudy's out there. There will be glaring differences up front but after that the differences shouldn't be that glaring.

Again, I'm looking forward to San Diego taking the same field with the program I consider the gold standard of College Football (not just I-AA).

[NDSUstudent]

With Iowa there was obvious motivation. Is there lack of motivation / discipline to put the hammer down and finish off teams? Maybe like CAS said this team is not as well conditioned later in the season as compared to previous teams. Other than the USD game where mistakes and lack of execution led to stalled drives, the blame mostly lies with the coaches. Ultra conservative calls (dives) and foolish risky plays seem to occur too often in the second half. What would help is some play variation that is slightly different mixed in with plays that work. Keep the other team guessing. The coaches must lead the effort to keep a team motivated, keep them in condition, and keep them at a high level to assure plays are properly executed.

I would love to seem some more variation, with play calling and maybe even tempo. Nothing dramatic but teams are definitely making some adjustments to what we are doing and I agree enough isn't being done to counter it.

[THEsocalledfan]

I can't give you the type of detailed information that a member of the staff could but I can tell you that it is a tricky process (giving athletes aid) at the "non scholarship" I-AA level. It's essentially a balancing act whereas you can't make it look like athletes are getting preferential treatment. But make no mistake- athletes in the Pioneer league aren't treated like the rest of the student body when it comes to admission and financial aid. If they were treated like the average student then there is no way San Diego would have curb stomped Call Poly like they did. It should be noted that both Jacksonville and San Diego have had to forfit league titles (and playoff bids) during the last few years because of financial aid issues. It's not easy to handle aid at this level.

At the end of the day I don't believe San Diego has much of a chance against NDSU but they aren't going to trot out a bunch of Rudy's out there. There will be glaring differences up front but after that the differences shouldn't be that glaring.

Again, I'm looking forward to San Diego taking the same field with the program I consider the gold standard of College Football (not just I-AA).

thank you; great insight.

[tjbison]

I would love to seem some more variation, with play calling and maybe even tempo. Nothing dramatic but teams are definitely making some adjustments to what we are doing and I agree enough isn't being done to counter it.

im still in the camp that weplaydifferent in the playoffs, look at last year, and nearly every year since 2010. not saying we hold anything back, but it just seems the intesity hits another level..i mght be wrong. we have also seen different play calling even in the Vigen era

[BisonNation11]

im still in the camp that weplaydifferent in the playoffs, look at last year, and nearly every year since 2010. not saying we hold anything back, but it just seems the intesity hits another level..i mght be wrong. we have also seen different play calling even in the Vigen era

I'm convinced we're going to see a completely different offense in the playoffs. I think the QB run game will be a huge part of the offense that the coaches have been saying they haven't used as much as they'd like to in order to keep Stick healthy. There's nothing to hold back for any more. I think we see the Delta formation more often. We utilize the jet sweep more. Obviously only use what is necessary to win without showing all the cards, but I'm confident we'll see a different offense out there.

[1993bison]

Maybe the team is like our fan base. Kind of bored with the regular season and can't help but want the playoffs to be here already!

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[Bison 4 Life]

I'm convinced we're going to see a completely different offense in the playoffs. I think the QB run game will be a huge part of the offense that the coaches have been saying they haven't used as much as they'd like to in order to keep Stick healthy. There's nothing to hold back for any more. I think we see the Delta formation more often. We utilize the jet sweep more. Obviously only use what is necessary to win without showing all the cards, but I'm confident we'll see a different offense out there.

This might be rose colored glasses but I agree. Granted, they could have done a little more to make me feel better about things but come on. 10-1? Who's fucking 10-1 after the schedule WE played? Nobody, that's who.

As Obi-Wan said "In my experience there's no such thing as luck"

[MAKBison]

I'm convinced we're going to see a completely different offense in the playoffs. I think the QB run game will be a huge part of the offense that the coaches have been saying they haven't used as much as they'd like to in order to keep Stick healthy. There's nothing to hold back for any more. I think we see the Delta formation more often. We utilize the jet sweep more. Obviously only use what is necessary to win without showing all the cards, but I'm confident we'll see a different offense out there.

You will see different formations like delta simply because players are getting healthy.

Having a starting full back will make a world of difference as well.

[Vet70]

Here is hoping the switch gets flipped. I think for most games other than penalties and execution it is hard to know exactly what is going on. Certainly, the coaches know what is going on, and teaching players to do something is one thing, having the lesson take is another. This is essentially the same coaching staff that has success for three years, but each team has to find its own way.

[1993bison]

With Iowa there was obvious motivation. Is there lack of motivation / discipline to put the hammer down and finish off teams? Maybe like CAS said this team is not as well conditioned later in the season as compared to previous teams. Other than the USD game where mistakes and lack of execution led to stalled drives, the blame mostly lies with the coaches. Ultra conservative calls (dives) and foolish risky plays seem to occur too often in the second half. What would help is some play variation that is slightly different mixed in with plays that work. Keep the other team guessing. The coaches must lead the effort to keep a team motivated, keep them in condition, and keep them at a high level to assure plays are properly executed.
http://www.inforum.com/node/4167744/

Well talent isn't the problem in the 2nd half according to the all conference list put together by the media, coaches and sports information directors.


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[admin]

Anybody have luck finding the replay of the Cal Poly v San Diego game? I'm not seeing it on WatchESPN.

[gumby013]

Anybody have luck finding the replay of the Cal Poly v San Diego game? I'm not seeing it on WatchESPN.

It's the only one missing from last week.

[Bison 4 Life]

Big Fluffy doesn't want that seen again.

[CAS4127]

I can't give you the type of detailed information that a member of the staff could but I can tell you that it is a tricky process (giving athletes aid) at the "non scholarship" I-AA level. It's essentially a balancing act whereas you can't make it look like athletes are getting preferential treatment. But make no mistake- athletes in the Pioneer league aren't treated like the rest of the student body when it comes to admission and financial aid. If they were treated like the average student then there is no way San Diego would have curb stomped Call Poly like they did. It should be noted that both Jacksonville and San Diego have had to forfit league titles (and playoff bids) during the last few years because of financial aid issues. It's not easy to handle aid at this level.

At the end of the day I don't believe San Diego has much of a chance against NDSU but they aren't going to trot out a bunch of Rudy's out there. There will be glaring differences up front but after that the differences shouldn't be that glaring.

Again, I'm looking forward to San Diego taking the same field with the program I consider the gold standard of College Football (not just I-AA).

How does this year's team compare to last year, I your opinion?

[BlueBisonRock]

The one aspect of this year's team compared to previous years teams is "Going for the throat". We get a lead and then get complacent (Coaching, players, and fans). All need to regain that hunger to get the job done and focus. I can only hope the seal clubbing training provided by PL gets the needed attention and that the crowd can resurrect the old but telling cheer "Blood Makes the Grass Grow".

[KCTorero]

How does this year's team compare to last year, I your opinion?

I like this year's Torero squad better. Much better QB play and a healthy Hodges.

Something to keep in mind about the Toreros they've played on a big stage before. They opened with San Diego State in 2015 and while the score wasn't pretty San Diego State scored 3 TDs on returns (2 ints and 1 KO). Here is the box score:


http://www.usdtoreros.com/sports/m-footbl/stats/2015-2016/usdfb01.html

[Mr Meaty]

I am looking forward to this game. A new team to face. The unknown of really just how good they are and that goes for us as well. Sometimes the bull wins!!!!! Go Bison...

[CAS4127]

I like this year's Torero squad better. Much better QB play and a healthy Hodges.

Something to keep in mind about the Toreros they've played on a big stage before. They opened with San Diego State in 2015 and while the score wasn't pretty San Diego State scored 3 TDs on returns (2 ints and 1 KO). Here is the box score:


http://www.usdtoreros.com/sports/m-footbl/stats/2015-2016/usdfb01.html

Wa-Griz Stadium last year didn't turn out too well for them last year (or was that 2 years ago?)?

[KCTorero]

Wa-Griz Stadium last year didn't turn out too well for them last year (or was that 2 years ago?)?

2014.

Listen, there is no doubt NDSU is the more talented team. No doubt. The point I was trying to make is that these same kids played San Diego State in front of 50,000 people last year and didn't pack it in. I expect NDSU beats the Toreros soundly but they aren't going to be walking around looking at all the fans.

[G_Funky]

Wa-Griz Stadium last year didn't turn out too well for them last year (or was that 2 years ago?)?

2014 playoffs.

52-14.


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[Bisonator98]

2014.

Listen, there is no doubt NDSU is the more talented team. No doubt. The point I was trying to make is that these same kids played San Diego State in front of 50,000 people last year and didn't pack it in. I expect NDSU beats the Toreros soundly but they aren't going to be walking around looking at all the fans.

Hey I hope they soak it in and enjoy it. Always fun to play in new venues and especially in great atmosphere's!

[No_Skill]

2014.

Listen, there is no doubt NDSU is the more talented team. No doubt. The point I was trying to make is that these same kids played San Diego State in front of 50,000 people last year and didn't pack it in. I expect NDSU beats the Toreros soundly but they aren't going to be walking around looking at all the fans.

The fans aren't much to look at anyway. They should be looking at our new 100 foot HD scoreboards.

[CAS4127]

2014.

Listen, there is no doubt NDSU is the more talented team. No doubt. The point I was trying to make is that these same kids played San Diego State in front of 50,000 people last year and didn't pack it in. I expect NDSU beats the Toreros soundly but they aren't going to be walking around looking at all the fans.

I fully expect a tough game that will be decided in the 4th quarter. We/NDSU is no world beater this year, and your squad looks to be the kind that can give us a run.

[G_Funky]

2014.

Listen, there is no doubt NDSU is the more talented team. No doubt. The point I was trying to make is that these same kids played San Diego State in front of 50,000 people last year and didn't pack it in. I expect NDSU beats the Toreros soundly but they aren't going to be walking around looking at all the fans.

kinda getting the vibe that the ndsu fans are viewing the toreros as many fbs teams view the bison prior to the matchup (usually doesn't go well for those fbs fans).

usd really has nothing to lose, and there isn't going to be anyone outside the usd locker room that is going to give the toreros much of a chance.

i think the toreros will find that the number of people in stands isn't the big deal. 19k is a good number in regards to fcs attendance, but that's not the point. it's the atmosphere in general. playing in a dome means noise is amplified. also, there is no buffer between the fans and the sideline...they are right on top of you. it's just a different monster than playing in front of 30k semi interested fans outside.

in regards to talent on the field...i guess that will show itself on saturday. the hodges kid played at cal, so it's not like he's not capable. their qb seems to have some ability, and the bison pass d has been suspect throughout the season.

the torero defense stopped the best rushing attack in the fcs and held an offense averaging close to 40 pts to about 20% of that (only gave up 1 offensive td). clearly they aren't st. mary's school of the blind.

i hope the toreros first trip to fargo is a pleasant one. if any fans make the trip, i suggest a stroll through the bison tailgate...just make sure you're thirsty and hungry before you get there....because you'll get your fill.


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[Mr Meaty]

37 degrees is the projected high for the day. Bring a stocking cap and leave the sunscreen at home.

[THEsocalledfan]

I fully expect a tough game that will be decided in the 4th quarter. We/NDSU is no world beater this year, and your squad looks to be the kind that can give us a run.

I watched the highlights on Sunday, and if folks think none of these guys have skill, they are in for a rude awakening. That is why I started asking how they are "paying" these guys as you can't get folks like that without scholies.

[wagsabison]

I thought Poly was going to give us some issues. They beat Poly so I'm thinking they are going to give us a game. Week off will be to our benefit though. Just have to give some teams hope at the end of the game and we are good at that this year.

[Christopher Moen]

I watched the highlights on Sunday, and if folks think none of these guys have skill, they are in for a rude awakening. That is why I started asking how they are "paying" these guys as you can't get folks like that without scholies.

I believe they give away some type of academic scholarships instead to their athletes. This is how schools like Augsburg and Wartburg have ruled the DIII ranks in wrestling forever. None of their wrestlers are DIII-caliber, but rather DI and high DII-caliber. I grew up wrestling with many guys that wrestled for Augsburg, but couldn't figure out how they were getting academic scholarships being that most guys I knew couldn't spell "scholarship" to begin with.

[BisonBacker]

kinda getting the vibe that the ndsu fans are viewing the toreros as many fbs teams view the bison prior to the matchup (usually doesn't go well for those fbs fans).

usd really has nothing to lose, and there isn't going to be anyone outside the usd locker room that is going to give the toreros much of a chance.

i think the toreros will find that the number of people in stands isn't the big deal. 19k is a good number in regards to fcs attendance, but that's not the point. it's the atmosphere in general. playing in a dome means noise is amplified. also, there is no buffer between the fans and the sideline...they are right on top of you. it's just a different monster than playing in front of 30k semi interested fans outside.

in regards to talent on the field...i guess that will show itself on saturday. the hodges kid played at cal, so it's not like he's not capable. their qb seems to have some ability, and the bison pass d has been suspect throughout the season.

the torero defense stopped the best rushing attack in the fcs and held an offense averaging close to 40 pts to about 20% of that (only gave up 1 offensive td). clearly they aren't st. mary's school of the blind.

i hope the toreros first trip to fargo is a pleasant one. if any fans make the trip, i suggest a stroll through the bison tailgate...just make sure you're thirsty and hungry before you get there....because you'll get your fill.


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The torero's didn't stop the rushing attack of Cal Poly the weather and that horrid field did. Bison Fans who remember the kitty litter bowl remember all to well. The Torero's won't have such luck in the dome.

[KCTorero]

The torero's didn't stop the rushing attack of Cal Poly the weather and that horrid field did. Bison Fans who remember the kitty litter bowl remember all to well. The Torero's won't have such luck in the dome.

I have no illusions that San Diego will stop NDSU.

But to argue they didn't stop the Cal Poly rushing attack but that the field conditions did isn't fair. Both teams trotted out there in the same conditions. One team couldn't do anything on O and the other out up a bunch of yards. The USD offense had no problem running or passing the ball. If anything the weather should have given a team like USD fits that passes the ball more and relies on its speed rather than a N and S downhill team like Cal Poly.

[Green1]

I have no illusions that San Diego will stop NDSU.

But to argue they didn't stop the Cal Poly rushing attack but that the field conditions did isn't fair. Both teams trotted out there in the same conditions. One team couldn't do anything on O and the other out up a bunch of yards. The USD offense had no problem running or passing the ball. If anything the weather should have given a team like USD fits that passes the ball more and relies on its speed rather than a N and S downhill team like Cal Poly.


I will have to agree. I think you guys had a good game plan to take advantage of Cali Poly's weaknesses and out executed them on offense. I think you guys really adjusted to Cali Poly's style of play and limited their big offensive plays. Credit is due where credit is due.

[Bison"FANatic"]

If you want to really screw a option team put them on a crappy field.

San Diego did stop them but they also knew that they couldn't run to the outside. They could key the full back dive and bam you stopped cal Poly all day long. I could not believe that Cal Poly had nothing that would send a second runner North South between the tackles. You can't run east west in the slop and it took way to long to develop. The San Diego outside lane runner looked like Heagle on that sloppy field, the thing is though the play took so long to develop that he could get away with it on a normal field that guy would have been long past the lane runner and would have got the corner.

The running back for San Diego is impressive but the coach won the game for San Diego. He set it up as North South runs and passing plays that were simple one move and hit the receiver throws or straight line down the field or straight line across field routes. He made it simple and didnt ask he players to do things that are impossible to do in the mud.

Also a option team is not a N and S downhill team. (The only exception was Wofford with that stud full back that Grant Olson had to tackle like 25 times during the playoff game.)

[KCTorero]

If you want to really screw a option team put them on a crappy field.

San Diego did stop them but they also knew that they couldn't run to the outside. They could key the full back dive and bam you stopped cal Poly all day long. I could not believe that Cal Poly had nothing that would send a second runner North South between the tackles. You can't run east west in the slop and it took way to long to develop. The San Diego outside lane runner looked like Heagle on that sloppy field, the thing is though the play took so long to develop that he could get away with it on a normal field that guy would have been long past the lane runner and would have got the corner.

The running back for San Diego is impressive but the coach won the game for San Diego. He set it up as North South runs and passing plays that were simple one move and hit the receiver throws or straight line down the field or straight line across field routes. He made it simple and didnt ask he players to do things that are impossible to do in the mud.

Also a option team is not a N and S downhill team. (The only exception was Wofford with that stud full back that Grant Olson had to tackle like 25 times during the playoff game.)

We will have to agree to disagree. Both teams had issues with the field. One team came to play and the other didn't


I played QB in an option offense and then 1 year of QB/3 years of LB at San Diego where we played a team that yearly (Dayton) that ran a real similar option game as Cal Poly. N and S dives all day. In fact the definition of N And S football. Try to get to the edge with the QB (not quite N and S but a hard angle) and option the man on the QB.

Field conditions impact everyone and I've never seen field conditions allow one team to kick another teams ass like San Diego did with Poly. One team came to play and the other didn't.

[Vet70]

We will have to agree to disagree. Both teams had issues with the field. One team came to play and the other didn't

Actually, both teams came to play and one team was better. That is one of the sports expressions that makes no sense to me. We can agree to disagree, but not being able to get to the egde because of the mud did hurt Poly. Against SDSU they did it frequently. Even the ESPN3 commentators noted that part of Poly's game was taken away by the conditions.

[scottietohottie]

Where did you get those clothes the toilet store.

[VirginiaBison]

Non-scholarship team, first time in the dome, playoff mode for the team and fans. I think we win easily if we do what we do best. As I said at the beginning of this thread.... T-R-A-P G-A-M-E.... too easy to sleep on. Ya all need to be firing up the Bison (esp 2nd half Bison) instead of putting them to sleep and looking ahead to the 1/4 finals. See you after the game!

[scottietohottie]

Even the guy who can't think said something.

[HerdBot]

I have no illusions that San Diego will stop NDSU.

But to argue they didn't stop the Cal Poly rushing attack but that the field conditions did isn't fair. Both teams trotted out there in the same conditions. One team couldn't do anything on O and the other out up a bunch of yards. The USD offense had no problem running or passing the ball. If anything the weather should have given a team like USD fits that passes the ball more and relies on its speed rather than a N and S downhill team like Cal Poly.

I'll agree with that but an option style offense is horrible in those type of conditions. You have 2 or 3 guys all running to the edge not to mention 2 or 3 pulling lineman. It's all about speed, cutting, and timing. Heck I rarely saw then pitch the ball since it always ended up on the turf.

Teams that pound the rock up the middle do better in those types of conditions. (which is you guys) But what really impressed me about you guys is how well the receivers caught the ball in the bad weather.

Overall I like your guy's style. Reminds me of, well, ourselves. Good defense. Pro style offense. Pound the rock. Nothing fancy.

[Christopher Moen]

I have no illusions that San Diego will stop NDSU.

But to argue they didn't stop the Cal Poly rushing attack but that the field conditions did isn't fair. Both teams trotted out there in the same conditions. One team couldn't do anything on O and the other out up a bunch of yards. The USD offense had no problem running or passing the ball. If anything the weather should have given a team like USD fits that passes the ball more and relies on its speed rather than a N and S downhill team like Cal Poly.

From an outsider's perspective, the biggest difference to the game that I saw was that San Diego looked hungry and wanted to play regardless of the elements. Cal Poly, on the other hand, didn't look hungry nor eager to play. It was pretty easy to see which team was having fun while the other looked like it was stuck doing chores.

A hungry team is always dangerous - this is one of the reasons why NDSU does so well against FBS teams.

The Bison will not underestimate your team. Too much is on the line to be that disrespectful.

[El_Chapo]

IM NOT GOING. SORRY this fcs playoff is a joke, a non scholarship team? ha ha. might as well play Moorhead state.

[CAS4127]

We will have to agree to disagree. Both teams had issues with the field. One team came to play and the other didn't


I played QB in an option offense and then 1 year of QB/3 years of LB at San Diego where we played a team that yearly (Dayton) that ran a real similar option game as Cal Poly. N and S dives all day. In fact the definition of N And S football. Try to get to the edge with the QB (not quite N and S but a hard angle) and option the man on the QB.

Field conditions impact everyone and I've never seen field conditions allow one team to kick another teams ass like San Diego did with Poly. One team came to play and the other didn't.

Consider your audience. I for one respect what you guys did to/at Cal Poly. You dominated a team that beat a team we lost to and that dominated us--pretty simple really. I'll take a win against you guys regardless of score/stats so we can move on.


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[FFBison]

If you want to really screw a option team put them on a crappy field.

San Diego did stop them but they also knew that they couldn't run to the outside. They could key the full back dive and bam you stopped cal Poly all day long. I could not believe that Cal Poly had nothing that would send a second runner North South between the tackles. You can't run east west in the slop and it took way to long to develop. The San Diego outside lane runner looked like Heagle on that sloppy field, the thing is though the play took so long to develop that he could get away with it on a normal field that guy would have been long past the lane runner and would have got the corner.

The running back for San Diego is impressive but the coach won the game for San Diego. He set it up as North South runs and passing plays that were simple one move and hit the receiver throws or straight line down the field or straight line across field routes. He made it simple and didnt ask he players to do things that are impossible to do in the mud.

Also a option team is not a N and S downhill team. (The only exception was Wofford with that stud full back that Grant Olson had to tackle like 25 times during the playoff game.)

Eric Breitenstein...I thought about him when watching Hodges run. Although they are completely different body types and running style, they both have excellent balance and are hard to get to the ground. Hodges needs to be wrapped up or he'll leave defenders laying on the ground at his feet. His balance makes him a difficult individual to tackle. Although the USD d-line appears undersized, their O-line has some beef. Being big doesn't mean they're necessarily "good", but they certainly have some size at a few spots on the line. I expect a blowout, but they'll have moments where they show why they're a playoff team.

Also heard from a USD alum today that the school is only providing tickets to players families and that they aren't even going to mess with their full allotment and managing ticket sales to their fans, alum, etc. I thought this was pretty interesting if true.

[gumby013]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Zq-NzH5Ark

[MAKBison]

I watched the highlights on Sunday, and if folks think none of these guys have skill, they are in for a rude awakening. That is why I started asking how they are "paying" these guys as you can't get folks like that without scholies.

Let's not pretend this is a higher echelon team either. Can you name one starter that would start on NDSU? Not trying to be a dick just keeping it real. Their strength...they play as a team and maybe their secondary. Their weakness the trenches. hey, I know they have at least one FBS guy. As has been said many times on here....there is a reason those folks don't play in the FBS anymore. Again, they don't have the juice to hang. With saying that if we come oput flat we can lose.

[gumby013]

http://fox5sandiego.com/2016/11/27/usd-football-team-wins-first-ever-playoff-game/

[Bisonwinagn]

First off USD destroyed Cal Poly and the game wasn't nearly as close as the score indicated. They completely dominated every phase of the game. I realize Poly has a bunch of injuries on defense and aren't near the team they were earlier in the year, but the USD offense is good. I would rate USD as a middle of the pack valley team in a one game match similar to ISUred, USD, Western so this game will not be easy if NDSU doesn't play their A game. Now USD might be a little banged up after last week playing against the option, struggle in the dome and get blown out, but its' not a lock. I see this as a 35-21 type game.

[NDSUstudent]

I think South Dakota would beat San Deigo by three TDs....They aren't mid-pack in the Valley. ISUR would kill them.

CP is just awful defensively and the wet turf killed their offense. People making way too much out of that game.

I do give credit to USD for taking down CP, it was a great win for their program but I think some perspective is needed.

[CAS4127]

I think South Dakota would beat San Deigo by three TDs....They aren't mid-pack in the Valley. ISUR would kill them.

CP is just awful defensively and the wet turf killed their offense. People making way too much out of that game.

I do give credit to USD for taking down CP, it was a great win for their program but I think some perspective is needed.

Tell us how CP beat SDSU fairly handily--or did you forget about that game?


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[Bison bison]

Quit with the sandbagging, ladies.

NDSU could never lose to a team with the acronym USD.

[NDSUstudent]

Tell us how CP beat SDSU fairly handily--or did you forget about that game?


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I watched that game, their offense was great...SDSU had no answer for their option but their defense still stunk. CP is like a number of Big Sky schools, they have no defense. Once their offense was stuck in the mud they were in a lot of trouble.

This is the same CP team that lost to Weber State and gave up a billion points to Sac State and UNC. They were not a good football team.

[MAKBison]

First off USD destroyed Cal Poly and the game wasn't nearly as close as the score indicated. They completely dominated every phase of the game. I realize Poly has a bunch of injuries on defense and aren't near the team they were earlier in the year, but the USD offense is good. I would rate USD as a middle of the pack valley team in a one game match similar to ISUred, USD, Western so this game will not be easy if NDSU doesn't play their A game. Now USD might be a little banged up after last week playing against the option, struggle in the dome and get blown out, but its' not a lock. I see this as a 35-21 type game.

Did you come to this conclusion when they played Universidad De Las Americas Puebla or well anyone else.... Dont tell me you are making this judgement of usd being a mid-tier Missouri Valley Football Conference based on the mud bowl. They played rjeir super bowl last week..... a rival they've never beat ever in their history on a muddy field that takes away the strength of the triple option.

I I'm impressed by their win but I don't think it will be a close game

[MAKBison]

Did you come to this conclusion when they played Universidad De Las Americas Puebla or well anyone else.... Dont tell me you are making this judgement of usd being a mid-tier Missouri Valley Football Conference based on the mud bowl. They played rjeir super bowl last week..... a rival they've never beat ever in their history on a muddy field that takes away the strength of the triple option.

I I'm impressed by their win but I don't think it will be a close game

I should also add.....did you see how many missed assignments usd's d made? When you play the same team twice even a triple option team there should be no way that there's that many missed assignments.

[BisonHorns]

I watched the highlights on Sunday, and if folks think none of these guys have skill, they are in for a rude awakening. That is why I started asking how they are "paying" these guys as you can't get folks like that without scholies.

Their school sent out a tweet yesterday to remind their fans that donations are how they give their football players scholarships. The big win has them looking for some more money and show that they are playing with scholarships.

https://twitter.com/USDToreros/status/803374918708719617

[G_Funky]

Did you come to this conclusion when they played Universidad De Las Americas Puebla or well anyone else.... Dont tell me you are making this judgement of usd being a mid-tier Missouri Valley Football Conference based on the mud bowl. They played rjeir super bowl last week..... a rival they've never beat ever in their history on a muddy field that takes away the strength of the triple option.

I I'm impressed by their win but I don't think it will be a close game

their schedule over the year makes it look like they're world beaters - unless they are playing a scholarship school.


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[Vet70]

Did you come to this conclusion when they played Universidad De Las Americas Puebla or well anyone else.... Dont tell me you are making this judgement of usd being a mid-tier Missouri Valley Football Conference based on the mud bowl. They played rjeir super bowl last week..... a rival they've never beat ever in their history on a muddy field that takes away the strength of the triple option.

I I'm impressed by their win but I don't think it will be a close game

Thier Super Bowl is this Saturday.

[tony]

Thier Super Bowl is this Saturday.

Yep. Every playoff game is its own Super Bowl... except for our games, almost all of the people in the stands will be fans of the teams involved, the TV broadcast won't feature the premiere of a new Doritos commercial, and the halftime extravaganza won't be nearly so extravagant.

[Bison"FANatic"]

I I'm impressed by their win but I don't think it will be a close game

I totally agree, they don't have the line play to hang for 4 quarters. I believe our D line is going to have a great game. I will be interested to watch USD left tackle he looks the part at 6'8" 315lb but I will be curious to see how he does against our D ends. The rest of the line I just don't see them stopping us. Congrats to them on their first win in playoff history but come Saturday we will roll through our first game pretty easily, the way a #1 seed should in their first game in a tourney.

[MrSnuffleupagus]

Hodges looked like a beast out there against Cal Poly.

If we can stop him, we beat San Diego.

[Bison03]

We are talking about a non-scholarship school here right? While I respect San Diego and their win over Cal Poly; I don't see any reason how we don't win this by 3+ touchdowns.

[Vet70]

We are talking about a non-scholarship school here right? While I respect San Diego and their win over Cal Poly; I don't see any reason how we don't win this by 3+ touchdowns.

From my understanding a non-scholarship team that gets "financial aid."

[Mr. Burgundy]

From my understanding a non-scholarship team that gets "financial aid."

Personally, I am scared to death. This team just took Cal Poly behind the shed. The same Cal Poly that I have been told all season is absolutely unreal! I mean they killed SDSU! UND said that it was the win that made the Big Sky all important! This team beat Cal Poly? We are in deep trouble. I am not looking forward to Saturday...other than the tailgate, which we will win.

[BFKasper14]

Personally, I am scared to death. This team just took Cal Poly behind the shed. The same Cal Poly that I have been told all season is absolutely unreal! I mean they killed SDSU! UND said that it was the win that made the Big Sky all important! This team beat Cal Poly? We are in deep trouble. I am not looking forward to Saturday...other than the tailgate, which we will win.

I sense a quite a bit of purple in this...could be wrong.


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[moosbah]

I sense a quite a bit of purple in this...could be wrong.


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No, I believe him that we'll win the tailgate.

[scottietohottie]

Personally, I am scared to death. This team just took Cal Poly behind the shed. The same Cal Poly that I have been told all season is absolutely unreal! I mean they killed SDSU! UND said that it was the win that made the Big Sky all important! This team beat Cal Poly? We are in deep trouble. I am not looking forward to Saturday...other than the tailgate, which we will win.

There was a time, a time before cable, when the local anchorman reigned supreme, when people believed everything they heard on TV. This was an age when only men were allowed to read the news. And in San Diego, one anchorman was more man than the rest. His name was Ron Burgundy. He was like a god walking amongst mere mortals. He had a voice that could make a wolverine purr, and suits so fine they made Sinatra look like a hobo. In other words,Ron Burgundy was the balls.

[Bison Loaf]

Personally, I am scared to death. This team just took Cal Poly behind the shed. The same Cal Poly that I have been told all season is absolutely unreal! I mean they killed SDSU! UND said that it was the win that made the Big Sky all important! This team beat Cal Poly? We are in deep trouble. I am not looking forward to Saturday...other than the tailgate, which we will win.


No, I believe him that we'll win the tailgate.

Holy hell, people!! I've lost to a tailgate before, and I have to believe many of you have also. Don't be so damn cocky!!

[1993bison]

Personally, I am scared to death. This team just took Cal Poly behind the shed. The same Cal Poly that I have been told all season is absolutely unreal! I mean they killed SDSU! UND said that it was the win that made the Big Sky all important! This team beat Cal Poly? We are in deep trouble. I am not looking forward to Saturday...other than the tailgate, which we will win.
Do we have a game plan to score more than 7 in the 2nd half? That is the only thing that concerns me.

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[HerdBot]

Thier Super Bowl is this Saturday.

It's win or go home so this is both of our Super Bowls. If we're not ready to play we will lose and the quest for a six peat will be over.

These guys bitch slapped Poly. Fans and the team better show up.

[MrSnuffleupagus]

There is a lot of smack talk going around just how much the Bison should beat San Diego. Remember how ridiculous it was to think that the Yotes would beat the Bison at home? Lets not get to cocky here.

End of the day, they did beat SDSU badly. We did not.

[Mr. Burgundy]

Do we have a game plan to score more than 7 in the 2nd half? That is the only thing that concerns me.

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I am not sure. You are the one with a personal vendetta against him. I told you to ask him.

[THEsocalledfan]

We are talking about a non-scholarship school here right? While I respect San Diego and their win over Cal Poly; I don't see any reason how we don't win this by 3+ touchdowns.

It is not that simple if you read through the thread. Yes, we should wood shed this team, but they are clearly much better than every other Pioneer League team and are finding ways to fund players. They have even be sanctioned for it.

[RedRiver]

There is a lot of smack talk going around just how much the Bison should beat San Diego. Remember how ridiculous it was to think that the Yotes would beat the Bison at home? Lets not get to cocky here.

End of the day, they did beat SDSU badly. We did not.

Let's not forget that we are now in the FCS playoffs, this is not some game in September. Cal Poly was a terrible team last weekend. The Bison should beat USD and the final score should be comfortable.

[MAKBison]

Thier Super Bowl is this Saturday.

No, there's Super Bowl was against CP what is considered in-state rival.....they have played eachother rhe past 5 seasons. Ndsu is just icing on the cake

[1993bison]

I am not sure. You are the one with a personal vendetta against him. I told you to ask him.
No vendetta. Just would like to know what the hell the problem is and hope it gets fixed before it bites us in the ass. Don't tell me you aren't concerned.

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[NDSUstudent]

The Pioneer is very fussy with how scholarships are handled...Jacksonville got nailed for having a scholarship program that funneled most of its money into football.

http://jacksonville.com/sports/college/jacksonville-dolphins/2015-07-17/story/pioneer-league-punishes-ju-violations-football

[tony]

Do we have a game plan to score more than 7 in the 2nd half? That is the only thing that concerns me.

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1. Convert third downs.
2. Don't turn the ball over
3. Limit stupid penalties
4. Stuff their offense

It's always worked in the past.

[Vet70]

It's win or go home so this is both of our Super Bowls. If we're not ready to play we will lose and the quest for a six peat will be over.

These guys bitch slapped Poly. Fans and the team better show up.


No, there's Super Bowl was against CP what is considered in-state rival.....they have played eachother rhe past 5 seasons. Ndsu is just icing on the cake

I will just disagree with both of you. Obviously, it is win or go home for both teams. Cal poly may have gotten them noticed, but I can't believe that knocking off the 5-time defending national champions doesn't have them chomping at the bit with extra motivation. If they pull it off they will have arrived and they know it.

[HerdBot]

I will just disagree with both of you. Obviously, it is win or go home for both teams. Cal poly may have gotten them noticed, but I can't believe that knocking off the 5-time defending national champions doesn't have them chomping at the bit with extra motivation. If they pull it off they will have arrived and they know it.

If it takes motivation like that come playoff time, a team is destined to fail. This isnt a regular season non conference game. It's the playoffs. Huge game for us

[ndsubison1]

If we lose to a team without a message board, shut down Bisonville

[StL Bison Fan]

If we lose to a team without a message board, shut down Bisonville

Oh, they have one. Only Poster is a Bison

[MrSnuffleupagus]

If we lose to a team without a message board, shut down Bisonville

http://toreroworld.boards.net/


its pretty lively and exciting over there.

[JMB]

Oh, they have one. Only Poster is a Bison

Lakesbison has probably been on there for a year already... :)

[MrSnuffleupagus]

Lakesbison has probably been on there for a year already... :)

I registered just so I could see when he made his profile and much to my surprise...he's not there.

We have found a place on the internet where he hasn't infected. I say we move and colonize there. It will be a utopia.

[Vet70]

http://toreroworld.boards.net/


its pretty lively and exciting over there.

Talking about a quick read. Well, at least they have an administrator to monitor all of the controversial comments.

[gumby013]

Talking about a quick read. Well, at least they have an administrator to monitor all of the controversial comments.

It's probably just Tony running double-duty like Patty.

[BISONBRI53]

It's win or go home so this is both of our Super Bowls. If we're not ready to play we will lose and the quest for a six peat will be over.

These guys bitch slapped Poly. Fans and the team better show up.
Section 17 will not show up... they suck!

[Hammerhead]

But they have a whole world instead of just a ville. :)


http://toreroworld.boards.net/


its pretty lively and exciting over there.

[bisonp]

http://toreroworld.boards.net/


its pretty lively and exciting over there.


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mrsnuffleupagus, scottietohottie, Admin

Well, at least their Admin is there. Gotta respect his effort.

[MrSnuffleupagus]

Well, at least their Admin is there. Gotta respect his effort.

Im going to try and go for highest post count. Maybe if some by horrible, horrible chance USD bumps NDSU out on Saturday, we can all hop on the USD bandwagon.

[HoopsBison]

Any idea how student ticket sales are going for this game?

[Bison03]

Any idea how student ticket sales are going for this game?
Not sure, but any unsold ones would be available on Wednesday night with the unused visitor seats. Love the atmosphere in the dome at playoff time. Standing and yelling on every defensive down, no knitters, no milk drinkers...

[tjbison]

Well at least it was their own fan starting the NDSU thread, there is a site COUGH (Villanova) COUGH.....that has a "Bison" fan that started the SDSU thread....

[Christopher Moen]

Do we have a game plan to score more than 7 in the 2nd half? That is the only thing that concerns me.

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They will if needed (see EWU and Iowa games). However, since this is the playoffs, they team might be in "Seek and Destroy" mode.

[Hammerhead]

Not sure, but any unsold ones would be available on Wednesday night with the unused visitor seats. Love the atmosphere in the dome at playoff time. Standing and yelling on every defensive down, no knitters, no milk drinkers...

We'll be up in row JJ so there won't be many people to complain if we stand all of the time. :)

[gumby013]

San Diego game notes.

http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/usd/sports/m-footbl/auto_pdf/2016-17/release/release_20161129aaa.pdf

[bisonboone11]

Not sure, but any unsold ones would be available on Wednesday night with the unused visitor seats. Love the atmosphere in the dome at playoff time. Standing and yelling on every defensive down, no knitters, no milk drinkers...

Edit: Are these "noise makers" allowed?


https://youtu.be/v4c0IBeXwY8?t=5m34s

[VirginiaBison]

Looks like SD is ready to chalk up a win in round two: http://herosports.com/news/north-dakota-state-football-fcs-playoffs-beatable

[Vet70]

Looks like SD is ready to chalk up a win in round two: http://herosports.com/news/north-dakota-state-football-fcs-playoffs-beatable

We might as well not bother showing up.

[CAS4127]

Looks like SD is ready to chalk up a win in round two: http://herosports.com/news/north-dakota-state-football-fcs-playoffs-beatable

Nothing inaccurate in that article.


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[td577]

Nothing inaccurate in that article.


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Not inaccurate, but certainly understated. The Bison still found a way to win 10 games up until now and both SDSU and NDSU are different teams than when they face each other before. If both schools make it past this weekend, it will be an interesting matchup and the bunnies will have earned everything they got coming if they were to beat the Bison twice in one season. Everyone should buckle up because this might be the rockiest ride to date, but no one has knocked the Bison off yet.

[SDbison]

All I know is this Bison team needs to rise to a higher level in the playoffs more than ever before to win it all. Need a few players in each game to play extraordinary. Reduce penalties and play aggressive on offense and defense. Think Iowa.

[Bisonator98]

Outside of the 2013 team I don't remember really dominating too many regular season opponents in the past 6 years either. Most of our wins are usually by 10 points or less. Maybe some OOC cupcakes in the past but we didn't have any this season.

[KCTorero]

Looks like SD is ready to chalk up a win in round two: http://herosports.com/news/north-dakota-state-football-fcs-playoffs-beatable

I opened that article expecting to see a bunch of trash talking from San Diego....

[Vet70]

I opened that article expecting to see a bunch of trash talking from San Diego....

The only interview that I have heard with an SD player was after the Poly game. He was excited about playing the Bison and didn't talk trash at all.

[Bisonfanatical]

their schedule over the year makes it look like they're world beaters - unless they are playing a scholarship school.


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SD has a SOS of 114th by bennett rank, they made the coaches poll At 25th but no stats ranking. Calpoly made the coaches poll at 20th and the stats poll at 21st.
SD was comparable to Calpoly in talent but had a far weaker SOS. I Watched the entire game on espn3, and it would be hard to have a fair evaluation of that mud wrestling/football game.
We are a top 5 team all season with a number 1 SOS, and although there have been mistakes made by the Bison thru the year by struggling backups, BECAUSE of serious injuries thru the year to key players, we are still the number 1 seed.

It is possible for a weaker team to play out of their league on a given night, and it is possible that on that same night that the better team can drop the ball and lose, but I wouldn't hold my breath ... lol

Go Bizzon!!

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[StL Bison Fan]

The only interview that I have heard with an SD player was after the Poly game. He was excited about playing the Bison and didn't talk trash at all.

I saw that too. He was a good interview. Now the news guy... what a rube

[Bisonfanatical]

Nothing inaccurate in that article.


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True,
But there was nothing that wasn't true about every year NDSU won a natty except the undefeated year also.

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[EC8CH]

I saw that too. He was a good interview. Now the news guy... what a rube

Definitely no Champ Kind.

[BisonHorns]

http://www.mighty1090.com/episode/jonah-hodges-im-optimistic-we-have-nothing-to-lose/

Radio interview with their running back.

[MAKBison]

Nothing inaccurate in that article.


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Nope other than the author failing to mention ...hope to catch the Bison coming off one of the most emotional weeks they have ever experienced. I think a lot of people discount all that happened those two weeks and the toll it had. Many mentioned just how flat NDSU played in that game.

[CAS4127]

Nope other than the author failing to mention ...hope to catch the Bison coming off one of the most emotional weeks they have ever experienced. I think a lot of people discount all that happened those two weeks and the toll it had. Many mentioned just how flat NDSU played in that game.

I personally think the "emotional" stuff is over-blown by adults involved. I/my teams went thru deaths/injuries too, and it wasn't stressed even close to what these were.


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[Bison bison]

I'm stuck in a glass case of emotion.

[MAKBison]

I personally think the "emotional" stuff is over-blown by adults involved. I/my teams went thru deaths/injuries too, and it wasn't stressed even close to what these were.


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Everyone responds differently, but to say it has no impact (if that is what you are actually saying) is foolish.

I think just having Ben Newman there is telling. He is there for a reason....The mental/non-physical side of it. As a Vet, I experienced deaths/injury and sometimes it impacted me and sometimes it did not. My point, I have seen and experienced how death and injury impact individuals and teams in various ways. They always have an impact maybe not immediately and maybe you don't notice it, but there is always an impact.

As far as this team....You have just as much insight into this team as I do...we both sit on the sidelines. What I saw that day from snap 1 was a flat exhausted team that made a lot of mental mistakes that it typically does not make.
Was it SDSU that caused this...sure, they played a huge part of it. But, Did the toll of the previous week play a part.....I think so.

[CAS4127]

Some respond some do not, but to say it has no impact is foolish. Why do you think Ben Newman is there....for a reason obviously the team leaders don't think that stuff is overblown. As a Vet, I experienced deaths/injury and sometimes it impacted me and sometimes it did not. I have seen and experainced how death and injury impact individuals and teams in various ways.

As far as this team....You have just as much insight into this team as I do...we both sit on the sidelines. What I saw that day from snap 1 was a flat exhausted team that made a lot of mental mistakes that it typically does not make. Was it SDSU...sure Did the toll of the previous week play a part.....I think so.

You missed the major point. Why is BN there over emphasizing every fucking thing to extremes?? Just do your job, don't over do it. And I feel CK is a bit too "plaintiff" in his ways and how he discusses the team and opponent.

Is what you saw the result of what was emphasized to them or how they would have otherwise played had they not been bombarded with a bunch of BS they didn't need?!

Just how I feel/think.


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[MAKBison]

You missed the major point. Why is BN there over emphasizing every fucking thing to extremes?? Just do your job, don't over do it. And I feel CK is a bit too "plaintiff" in his ways and how he discusses the team and opponent.

Is what you saw the result of what was emphasized to them or how they would have otherwise played had they not been bombarded with a bunch of BS they didn't need?!

Just how I feel/think.


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I got/get your point. You have the answer in the last part of your message...."Just how I feel." You are correct, that is how you feel and respond, but that does not mean that is how everyone feels.

As to how CK does his job. Its his team he can do the job how he deems fit to do it. The thing is he can't come out say hey Cass fuck you, you don't like it throw your hat in the ring next time. I am betting if he could get away with it a few coaches ould send that message to you, I and all the others that post on here.

BTW...I am not disagreeing with you.....Just do your job! I am totally in the camp that video games ( yes that is a shot :) ) and how a lot of things are done today is pretty much ripping the nuts of our young men.

[CAS4127]

I got/get your point. You have the answer in the last part of your message...."Just how I feel." You are correct, that is how you feel and respond, but that does not mean that is how everyone feels.

As to how CK does his job. Its his team he can do the job how he deems fit to do it. The thing is he can't come out say hey Cass fuck you, you don't like it throw your hat in the ring next time.

I agree how I feel/think is not how everyone does or will, and I don't care--as in everyone is entitled to their own thoughts/opinions/feelings. No problem with that here.

I also agree on your CK position, but I have every right to voice/state my opinion thoughts, and I wouldn't care if he did tell me to go FMS. I'd retort accordingly, and likely tell him what I think/feel about his OC.

Is there some unwritten law on this that I don't know of, or is it just not "acceptable" these days to state a personal opinion that may offend someone.

If so, my position is that some laws are meant to or should be broken just to test the waters a bit.

Edit: I don't play video games.

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[MAKBison]

I agree how I feel/think is not how everyone does or will, and I don't care--as in everyone is entitled to their own thoughts/opinions/feelings. No problem with that here.

I also agree on your CK position, but I have every right to voice/state my opinion thoughts, and I wouldn't care if he did tell me to go FMS. I'd retort accordingly, and likely tell him what I think/feel about his OC.

Is there some unwritten law on this that I don't know of, or is it just not "acceptable" these days to state a personal opinion that may offend someone.

If so, my position is that some laws are meant to or should be broken just to test the waters a bit.


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I don't disagree with anything you just wrote. I say break that law an dtest away...PC is holding us back as a society. If you want to hear something pretty funny, I just recently sent a faculty-wide message to the faculty in the program I oversee. The message was not very PC, especially ibn a university setting. What did I say....Do your job! Yep, I sent a bunch of egg head profs a public bitch out letter telling them to do their damn jobs. So yeah, I am pretty much in agreement with what you just stated.

[CAS4127]

I don't disagree with anything you just wrote. I say break that law an dtest away...PC is holding us back as a society. If you want to hear something pretty funny, I just recently sent a faculty-wide message to the faculty in my program. The message was not very PC, especially ibn a university setting. What did I say....Do your job! Yep, I sent a bunch of egg head prof a bitch out the letter telling them to do their damn jobs. So yeah, I am pretty much in agreement with what you just stated.

Crazy how "just do YOUR job" is so simple on its face, but, yet, can create such complex and solid results if followed.


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[MAKBison]

Crazy how "just do YOUR job" is so simple on its face, but, yet, can create such complex and solid results if followed.


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It seems to have resonated! Just waiting for the other shoe to drop....should Be getting a note from the Dean or HR any day :-) :-)

[56BISON73]

You missed the major point. Why is BN there over emphasizing every fucking thing to extremes?? Just do your job, don't over do it. And I feel CK is a bit too "plaintiff" in his ways and how he discusses the team and opponent.

Is what you saw the result of what was emphasized to them or how they would have otherwise played had they not been bombarded with a bunch of BS they didn't need?!



Just how I feel/think.




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To basically work out 325- days a year and trying to keep that focus especially when the season gets to be grind is difficult.BN is there as a motivational tool.

I think the whole---it was a difficult two weeks thing is over blown by fans who love the drama.

[unbison]

I personally think the "emotional" stuff is over-blown by adults involved. I/my teams went thru deaths/injuries too, and it wasn't stressed even close to what these were.


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Your also from a different generation .... just saying

[G_Funky]

To basically work out 325- days a year and trying to keep that focus especially when the season gets to be grind is difficult.BN is there as a motivational tool.

I think the whole---it was a difficult two weeks thing is over blown by fans who love the drama.

i think the difficult two weeks thing is an excuse, or a scapegoat, that people are taking and running with instead of admitting that we lost because we didn't play well.

it's just like society today...everything has a rhyme or reason to it...there also has to be an explanation so that feelings aren't hurt and people don't have to face the facts.

this whole "coddling" of the players is hard to wrap my head around...Klieman always states "no one is gonna feel sorry for the Bison" and that is very true. however, i feel like as a program the ones who are leading
these young men are in fact doing just that. When Bohl was here it was blue collar and you bring your lunch pale and hard hat everyday and you grind. you're damn right it was hard, but wtf do they expect? it's like after winning 5 natties the kids just all of a sudden need all this "extra" motivation to keep going. wth is that? it's like they are just excited to be here and Easton's 18-1 and aw shucks if we don't win a national championship we sure did have a lot of fun losing. gtfoh with that. the culture is changing and the tenacity and attitude of this team is changing from a bunch of guys who want to grind and want to win national championships and dismantle any opposition in the way to a bunch of guys who are coddled and felt sorry for by the very people who should be holding them accountable as individuals.

as a coaching staff, not only are they in the ball game of prepping product for the field...they are also some the most influential people in a young man's life in regards to molding them as individuals. all this PC crap and coddling and feeling sorry for the guys is not going to produce product on the field that is on par with a program that claims "dynasty" and it's not going to mold individuals into productive members of society because at the core of their being they know that for every action there is not an equal or greater reaction but that for every action there is an excuse that makes the outcome okay, regardless of its impact.

now, this in no way speaks to the Morlock family and what they endured. i cannot comprehend that situation.

however, i feel like it's a bit unfair to the Morlocks, and especially Chase, to put that situation at the forefront of their struggles in the SDSU game.

with all that being said, i truly hope to see a product on the field that displays the characteristics of a champion...not a wannabe looking for a way out.


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[G_Funky]

http://www.mighty1090.com/episode/jonah-hodges-im-optimistic-we-have-nothing-to-lose/

Radio interview with their running back.

how is ndsu so successful? do they recruit a bunch of junior college kids? do they have low academic standards?

this interviewer for real? wow...

someone should get a hold of that d bag and ask him why usd is so much better than the rest of the PL...is it because they are are stumbling across some extra money for "academic" scholarships to football players? oh, wait...


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[Vet70]

how is ndsu so successful? do they recruit a bunch of junior college kids? do they have low academic standards?

this interviewer for real? wow...

someone should get a hold of that d bag and ask him why usd is so much better than the rest of the PL...is it because they are are stumbling across some extra money for "academic" scholarships to football players? oh, wait...


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I finally understand why the Bison are so good :facepalm:. This reminds me of a post on the HYB after the last trophy: "No one is this good so they must be cheating."

[Mr Meaty]

I'm stuck in a glass case of emotion.

I need a safe place.