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    Default Re: The talent gap

    Quote Originally Posted by Honeybooboo View Post
    this is why other fan bases call us arrogant

    other teams have plenty of players that NDSU would like to have..would I trade any of the starters..no because they have been coached to OUR system. Yes I believe Troy anderson would probably help NDSU in some capacity on the Defensive side of the ball.
    Are you suggesting he would be the water boy?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fmfantasy View Post
    Watching the MT state game it seemed they were overmatched everywhere.

    so honest questions for the people that know the FCS much better than I


    1- does MT state have anyone that would be a upgrade at starter for us? Anderson is their best player but not better than Stick- would we even trade Lance or Hotchkiss for him?

    2- how many FCS teams have more than 2-3 players that would start for us?

    3- if you made an all star team from the Big sky and gave them a month to practice what would be the final score vs bison in the dome?
    I would take Anderson as a safety or a Linebacker...
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    Quote Originally Posted by fmfantasy View Post
    Watching the MT state game it seemed they were overmatched everywhere.

    so honest questions for the people that know the FCS much better than I


    1- does MT state have anyone that would be a upgrade at starter for us? Anderson is their best player but not better than Stick- would we even trade Lance or Hotchkiss for him?

    2- how many FCS teams have more than 2-3 players that would start for us?

    3- if you made an all star team from the Big sky and gave them a month to practice what would be the final score vs bison in the dome?
    1. Anderson is a freak. He’d start somewhere. Not QB but LB or WR maybe if he can catch?
    2. I’d say the top 4 or 5 best teams each have about 4 or 5 guys that likely would start for us. Most teams I’d guess average around 2 dudes that would.
    3. So if we played EWU’s offense, they upgrade o line and add the best WR in the country. Then play Weber’s D and they can cherry pick 3-4 guys where they’re weakest. Plus they get the best ST guys? They certainly SHOULD beat us, but I would not count the Bison out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fmfantasy View Post
    Watching the MT state game it seemed they were overmatched everywhere.

    so honest questions for the people that know the FCS much better than I


    1- does MT state have anyone that would be a upgrade at starter for us? Anderson is their best player but not better than Stick- would we even trade Lance or Hotchkiss for him?

    2- how many FCS teams have more than 2-3 players that would start for us?

    3- if you made an all star team from the Big sky and gave them a month to practice what would be the final score vs bison in the dome?
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    I dont think the pure talent gap is a large as some people want to believe thats not to say NDSU doesnt have some of the more talented players in FCS

    NDSU is one of the places where the "whole is better than the sum of its parts" really applies I think. This is evident in the fact that not one player really carries the team all year long like on some teams. Rather they take turns game to game depending on the opponent and the matchups.

    Also I think its fair be a tad hesitant about how good next years team will be. Stick does so much for this offense that doesnt show up in the stat line so it is hard to quantify. I mean watch any other college football game. The QB does his "clap" then looks to the sideline for the adjustment/audible. That just doesnt happen with Stick he makes the adjustments himself

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    It's not all about who has more talent. Most FCS teams have tons of talent. It's about who had the most talented players for the system you run. Who is mentally sharper and prepared better, who is fundamentally sound, who executes, and who is hungry. We obviously have talent, but it fits what we do perfectly and the players execute great game plans
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    Quote Originally Posted by noryan34 View Post
    I dont think the pure talent gap is a large as some people want to believe thats not to say NDSU doesnt have some of the more talented players in FCS

    NDSU is one of the places where the "whole is better than the sum of its parts" really applies I think. This is evident in the fact that not one player really carries the team all year long like on some teams. Rather they take turns game to game depending on the opponent and the matchups.

    Also I think its fair be a tad hesitant about how good next years team will be. Stick does so much for this offense that doesnt show up in the stat line so it is hard to quantify. I mean watch any other college football game. The QB does his "clap" then looks to the sideline for the adjustment/audible. That just doesnt happen with Stick he makes the adjustments himself
    Exactly right. Let's just hope that Hotchkiss, Sanders and Lance are all big walking sponges right now while the big Stick is still on campus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HerdBot View Post
    It's not all about who has more talent. Most FCS teams have tons of talent It's a out who had the most talented players for the system you run. Who is mentally sharper and prepared better, who is fundamentally sound, who executes, and who is hungry. We obviously have talent, but it fits what we do perfectly and the players execute great game plans
    Agree. NDSU regularly wins with less talented players. Football's the ultimate team sport.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EC8CH View Post
    Agree. NDSU regularly wins with less talented players. Football's the ultimate team sport.
    We dont win with less talent. We win with equal talent but great for our system. Now If your talking power 5 wins.. probably. Although I think our offensive line has shown they can compete with anyone
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    Quote Originally Posted by GreenfieldBison View Post
    Exactly right. Let's just hope that Hotchkiss, Sanders and Lance are all big walking sponges right now while the big Stick is still on campus.
    And who do they have rooming with Stick? Lance.
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